Buckshot, do you have a vested interest in this matter...
Henrik, is that you ?
You do realize that the thread is called, ’Used digi back pricing ?’ (and I didn't start it) don’t you ? Given that’s the case, take a wild stab at what’s going to be discussed. Common sense should tell you what to expect. But wait, you actually posted to this thread when you were looking for an IQ160, ’…looking for an IQ160 in the used market however pricing of pre-owned from dealers (I believe these pricing controlled by PhaseOne) are
a little perplexing…’ (my emphasis). Maybe this discussion is useful to you ? But then again, if you’re not into buying privately, probably not - just pony up the sticker price and move on.
Who doesn't have a vested interest in saving money ? If poor little old Phase One is feeling picked on, they needn’t worry - I like to save money wherever and whenever I can (lighting, tech support, storage, insurance, studio hire - you name it); in this economy it keeps me in business. I also have a vested interest in seeing the MF sector survive - for my personal work I still find MF capture (even from an ‘old’ P series DB) on a tech cam crazily addictive. That said, know any pros of late that have got into MF ? No, me neither - in the past two years I’ve seen a number get out entirely (of ownership). On the rare occasion they need MF (i.e. the AD had a brain fart and insisted), they hire the kit. Schneider have gotten out of the game (wrt their digitar series), Sinar are (were?) in trouble, Leaf went (as an independent entity), Contax have gone, Rollei too, Mamiya were subsumed by P1, Pentax by Ricoh, Phase One had cash flow issues, and who knows what shape Hasselblad are in. Right now enthusiasts who want the luxury/bragging rights of using ‘the best’ are probably keeping the sector going, but what happens when they eventually tire of carrying around 2.5kg of gear to take holiday snaps ? In order to guarantee the long term health of MFD, the cost of entry needs to be minimized. That means the latest body + DB for under $15k. Better still, $10k. Like what Pentax are doing. Hasselblad as well with their CFV-50c.
If I’m interested in buying gear myself through a forum, I PM - so how can you know whether I am or not ? Maybe I should copy you in next time ? If I do post in a thread it’s simply to clarify a point in the listing or give some advice, especially when a newbie joins the site and their
first post is to list a piece of gear for tens of thousands of dollars. LuLa is a community of photographers, and if I was about to get screwed and pay $10k over the odds (unlikely, admittedly), I hope someone would interject. Equally, I’m not going to sit by and see someone else taken for a ride.