COVID-19 updates

[chez]

Our founding involved violently revolting against our government and the founding fathers purposely instilled this sentiment into our two most important documents, the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights. 

It's bread into us, whether good or bad. 

FYI, when I write these things, I am just taking into account the natural tendency of this country, to revolt.  I, myself, am not calling for allowing people to do whatever they want currently. 

I feel that two weeks is an appropriate amount of time for this, and then to make necessary modifications so the economy does not tank.  Such as, allow economic activity of all sorts to start up again while taking additional measures to care for the sick and elderly. 

If the current state of things are tried to be implemented for more then two, at most three, weeks, I'm waiving my middle finger at city hall, end of story.  Unless people start dropping like flies from this, it is going to universally happen.

Maybe the government should have done nothing...dropping like flies would be appropriate.

[JoeKitchen]

That's sort of the Trump administration in a nutshell, amirite?

I'll be serious for a moment...

You're correct, but rightwingers hold traditional media to a standard that "their" (the right wing) favored publications could never, ever, ever, EVER uphold.  It would be counter to their entire raison d'être.. So yeah, while I concur that the headline is misleading and I do wish that media like NYT and WaPo were hyper aware of their obligations, especially now, you'll pardon me if my eyes are rolling so far that they're about to pop out of my head when you cast Donald Trump and his current enablers in Congress as victims of any sort.

They just don't like it when their own tactics are used on them.

Thanks for the seriousness. 

In a nut shell, I would say Trump's PR process is very much his way or the highway.  Sometimes it works, yet leads to inconsistent messaging since he also seems to ad hoc it.  This then puts many of his PR people in a hard spot since they cant really answer questions from the press since they dont really know what Trump is thinking. 

Certainly beneficial for somethings, like keeping Iran guessing as to how hard we will hit back.  In uncertainty, enemies tend to err on the side of caution.  Here though, it has been a complete disaster. 

[JoeKitchen]

Maybe the government should have done nothing...dropping like flies would be appropriate.

Like Denmark?  They are taking a much more hands off approach. 

Time will tell.

[Raul_Rodriguez]

I feel that two weeks is an appropriate amount of time for this, and then to make necessary modifications so the economy does not tank.  Such as, allow economic activity of all sorts to start up again while taking additional measures to care for the sick and elderly. 

If the current state of things are tried to be implemented for more then two, at most three, weeks, I'm waiving my middle finger at city hall, end of story.  Unless people start dropping like flies from this, it is going to universally happen.

Tough spot for the local and federal government, if the strict self isolation and businesses closures manage to control the pandemic, they risk being blamed for the economy tanking since they won't have a huge death toll to show. If they are lenient, then they risk having a huge death toll to show.

I think this thing needs to be dealt with extremes measures until it's 100% controlled. This tiny bug doesn't care about the market or people's income. One case left unsupervised could lead up to yet another event, and we haven't event started with this one.

I can assume that the administration has the right people advising on the matter (Trump's mouth aside) and that they know better than the members of a photography forum.

[LesPalenik]

I'm not sure that the administration and president know more than some of the posters on this forum.
At the current rate of 12,500 new infections and 600 deaths per day, by end of the week we'll have globally 250,000 infections and 10,000 deaths.

[Robert Roaldi]

I'm not sure that the administration and president know more than some of the posters on this forum.
At the current rate of 12,500 new infections and 600 deaths per day, by end of the week we'll have globally 250,000 infections and 10,000 deaths.

We should probably take the time to be grateful about a few things. No one is calling this a Chinese, Democrat, or radical left hoax anymore. That's not a small step.

And no, I'm not referring to Trump. I consider him a bit player in this scenario. I don't believe he actually matters much at this point, his opinions on the issue and the opinions of other partisan politicians, are mostly irrelevant. At this point, they're just along for the ride. My feeling is that people know what's important now.

[faberryman]

The coronavirus has sparked the sales of guns and ammo. It is only a matter of time before someone gets shot at the grocery store over a roll of toilet paper. What are these people thinking?

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/gun-sales-rise-coronavirus-fears-trigger-personal-safety-concerns-n1161926

[Raul_Rodriguez]

The coronavirus has sparked the sales of guns and ammo. It is only a matter of time before someone gets shot at the grocery store over a roll of toilet paper. What are these people thinking?

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/gun-sales-rise-coronavirus-fears-trigger-personal-safety-concerns-n1161926

Man what is the deal with toilet paper??

I can think of a million things more useful to have in a lockdown. Makes no sense.

[KLaban]

Man what is the deal with toilet paper??

I can think of a million things more useful to have in a lockdown. Makes no sense.

Dunno, this whole thing gives me the shits.

;-)

[Raul_Rodriguez]

Dunno, this whole thing gives me the shits.

;-)

Lol, yeah that too.

[pschefz]

funny how not too long ago this was all a hoax by the democrats and pointing out the obvious neglect and incompetence of the WH now is political and we should all pull together...
the necessary and drastic measures taken in Europe are possible because people have paid sick leave, healthcare and the government understands that it is more important to financially support the smallest businesses first....the only way to keep the real economy running (or at least limping) along...but of course all that is crazy socialism that just does not work

[texshooter]

Man what is the deal with toilet paper??

Flor de toilette

[chez]

I'm not sure that the administration and president know more than some of the posters on this forum.
At the current rate of 12,500 new infections and 600 deaths per day, by end of the week we'll have globally 250,000 infections and 10,000 deaths.

I shudder to think what those numbers would look like if the nations did not take the actions they did.

[Craig Lamson]

We should probably take the time to be grateful about a few things. No one is calling this a Chinese, Democrat, or radical left hoax anymore. That's not a small step.

And no, I'm not referring to Trump. I consider him a bit player in this scenario. I don't believe he actually matters much at this point, his opinions on the issue and the opinions of other partisan politicians, are mostly irrelevant. At this point, they're just along for the ride. My feeling is that people know what's important now.

No one ever did besides the stupid media and theose who unblinkingly believe them. It clearly is Chinese.

[pschefz]

The German company CureVac stated they were never approached by anyone from the US.  this really is Fake News.

of course because there is no way trump would do something like this....
not too long ago there was talk that the vaccine would not be free....why should it? if there is a way to make a quick buck! Trump trumps the virus!
the CEO of that small company was removed a day after the meeting in the WH...a very surprising move...
the real problem is here that this does not come as a surprise and if it was true would fall beautifully under the America first and free market ideas held so high by the (thank god) old and getting older who would probably consider it a great move

[Craig Lamson]

Man what is the deal with toilet paper??

I can think of a million things more useful to have in a lockdown. Makes no sense.

Until you are wiping you dirty behind with your left hand...

[Craig Lamson]

That's sort of the Trump administration in a nutshell, amirite?

I'll be serious for a moment...

You're correct, but rightwingers hold traditional media to a standard that "their" (the right wing) favored publications could never, ever, ever, EVER uphold.  It would be counter to their entire raison d'être.. So yeah, while I concur that the headline is misleading and I do wish that media like NYT and WaPo were hyper aware of their obligations, especially now, you'll pardon me if my eyes are rolling so far that they're about to pop out of my head when you cast Donald Trump and his current enablers in Congress as victims of any sort.

They just don't like it when their own tactics are used on them.

Thats so much utter Bullsnits its stinking up the entire room. If you actually believe this you are a lost cause.

You don't spend much time listening to the folks on the right getting snitty about Fox News do you?  Do you actually even spend any time at all with Fox news or OAN?

[Craig Lamson]

The coronavirus has sparked the sales of guns and ammo. It is only a matter of time before someone gets shot at the grocery store over a roll of toilet paper. What are these people thinking?

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/gun-sales-rise-coronavirus-fears-trigger-personal-safety-concerns-n1161926

They are thinking if SHTF they want the means to protect themselves and their family.  You sure can't depend on government or the police.  All they do is clean up the mess, if there are any of them left.

Its been said that civilized behavior is three days thick.  If it comes to pass that you can't get what you want or need from a store, there is an element of society that will take it by force if thay can.

If that ever comes to pass, are you willing roll over and perhaps be dead or will you fight to try and protect you and yours?

[chez]

Thats so much utter Bullsnits its stinking up the entire room. If you actually believe this you are a lost cause.

You don't spend much time listening the folks on the right getting snitty about Fox News do you?  DO oyu actually even spend any time at all with Fox news or OAN?

Zero to both Fox and CNN. Both are not news but entertainment and I get much more entertainment watching Gilgan Island reruns.

[chez]

They are thinking if SHTF they want the means to protect themselves and their family.  You sure can't depend on government or the police.  All they do is clean up the mess, if there are any of them left.

Its been said that civilized behavior is three days thick.  If it comes to pass that you can't get what you want or need from a store, there is an element of society that will take it by force if thay can.

If that ever comes to pass, are you willing roll over and perhaps be dead or will you fight to try and protect you and yours?

I think I'll just stay in boring Canada where all the upheaval is about Timmy's closing down the sit down part and only keeping the drive through open.