Topic: New Sinar arTec camera (Read 169196 times)

rainer_v · « **Reply #120 on:** July 05, 2008, 07:10:31 pm »

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What is the width of the camera with the digital back behind the lens and the ground glass off to the side? It appears to be about 16" wide when capturing.
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something like that.
of course you move it back to its 11" size if you take it down.

laughingbear · « **Reply #121 on:** July 07, 2008, 08:54:25 pm »

I am new to MFDB, just make my first experiences with the "M". Hence, from my very limitted understanding, the artec is a "dream-come true" tool for landscapes as well.

Did you shoot landscapes with it yet? If so, would you mind showing an example?

I very much like your philosophie concerning manufacturers Rainer, I experienced the same in the synthesizer world, if you know your tool, and provide competent feedback, you might just get what you want.

BIG congrats on such a successful cooperation with Sinar!

I mean.... WOW!

adammork · « **Reply #122 on:** July 15, 2008, 12:14:58 pm »

Dear Thierry

Just a thought - after it's no longer just a rumour that the sensor's are getting bigger....

Is it possible to use Schneider digitar's on the arTec ? since the current Rodenstocks HR will not leave that much room for movements in combination with a bigger sensor.

Very best,
adam

thsinar · « **Reply #123 on:** July 15, 2008, 05:20:03 pm »

Dear Adam,

Thanks for the "thought". It is not planed yet, but why not. I shall feedback this to Sinar.

Best regards,
Thierry

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Dear Thierry

Just a thought - after it's no longer just a rumour that the sensor's are getting bigger....

Is it possible to use Schneider digitar's on the arTec ? since the current Rodenstocks HR will not leave that much room for movements in combination with a bigger sensor.

Very best,
adam
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rainer_v · « **Reply #124 on:** July 15, 2008, 06:58:11 pm »

sorry. wrong post. deleted.

Adina · « **Reply #125 on:** July 17, 2008, 04:40:31 am »

Question:

if the arTec has the same DB Mont as the HY6,
can i use the filmbacks (6*4,5,6*6(in future)) from Franke&Heidecke on it ?

Adina ...

Dustbak · « **Reply #126 on:** July 17, 2008, 01:45:08 pm »

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"Rethmeier, you are a great and respected photoapher"
Caracalla!

Thank's for the complement!

Now there is one thing I want for my Hy6!
A Zeiss PC-Mutar 1.4X .

The one that Hasselblad is releasing for the H-series!

Now that's a handy item!

Cheers,
Willem.
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Hmmm.... Willem

For 3600euros I am breaking my head whether I just would not have preferred a Flexbody style solution that can control HC lenses.

It would have made for a smaller & lighter package.

Don't get me wrong I like the fact there is a TS solution for the H now but really... couldn't they just have taken the mount (both back & front), the electronics of the H & replace the mirror box with a bellow with movements?

I think I will have had more than one headache before I plunk down the 3600euros for the TS, I already have a headache because I am sure eventually I will.

Kudos to Sinar & Rainer for spec'ing and developing this new body. Looks like a very nice piece of equipment. I think there have been many interesting developments lately in MF/LF (the lines do seem to disappear) land.

Graham Mitchell · « **Reply #127 on:** July 17, 2008, 02:44:45 pm »

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Hmmm.... Willem
For 3600euros I am breaking my head whether I just would not have preferred a Flexbody style solution that can control HC lenses.
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I was thinking the same. A dedicated body would be much better, as it would not require the addition of a lens element and the disadvantages that brings (1.5x crop factor, loss of 1 stop of light, reduced image quality)

Graham Mitchell · « **Reply #128 on:** July 17, 2008, 03:12:33 pm »

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For better or worse, it's the added lens element that provides the image circle to allow shift. A new flexbody would require new lenses to achieve coverage for shift.
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Oh true.. for the Hasselblad. I was thinking of the Hy6 platform and Willem's wish. Sorry for confusion.

Dustbak · « **Reply #129 on:** July 17, 2008, 03:12:49 pm »

Well, most HC lenses have been designed for 645 anyway so there is at least room for 5mm shift in all directions and probably even a bit more when used with a 48x36 sensor. The only lens with the shift problem will be the HC28.

Having said that I would be surprised if the 28 doesn't have a little bit of extra 'room' on the sides to allow a tiny bit of shift (at a price naturally)

So with a dedicated body, at least 5mm shift and tilt would have been feasible. With every HC lens from 35 up to 300mm

thsinar · « **Reply #130 on:** July 17, 2008, 04:21:58 pm »

Dear Adina,

Theoretically yes: the 600x series 645 film magazine can be mounted to the arTec with the corresponding existing Hy6 adapter, (as well as the 6x6/6x4.45 magazine in preparation).

The point is that this 645 magazine needs to be electrically powered to assure the transport of the film.

In practice this means that the adapter needs some electronics and a battery is necessary as well. Technically feasible but no plans yet.

Best regards,
Thierry

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Question:

if the arTec has the same DB Mont as the HY6,
can i use the filmbacks (6*4,5,6*6(in future)) from Franke&Heidecke on it ?
Adina ...
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Lust4Life · « **Reply #131 on:** August 28, 2008, 04:02:38 pm »

I've just finished reading all 7 pages of this thread. I find several questions asking about components prices but no answers.

Did I miss it somewhere?
When will prices, USA, be available.

As a landscape shooter, I find the features of this camera to be right on target of what has been missing for digital. Just hope the pricing does not preclude it from the meager budget most landscape shooters have.

Thanks.

thsinar · « **Reply #132 on:** August 28, 2008, 08:14:00 pm »

Prices will be published at Photokina, together with the presentation of the camera.
Expect it to be priced around the same range as existing models from other makers.

Best regards,
Thierry

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I've just finished reading all 7 pages of this thread. I find several questions asking about components prices but no answers.

Did I miss it somewhere?
When will prices, USA, be available.

As a landscape shooter, I find the features of this camera to be right on target of what has been missing for digital. Just hope the pricing does not preclude it from the meager budget most landscape shooters have.

Thanks.
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mkravit · « **Reply #133 on:** August 28, 2008, 08:47:32 pm »

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Rainer,
I'm very impressed!

This is certainly the Alpa,Horseman etc killer!

Regards,

Willem.
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That has to be one of the most off the wall statements I have ever heard. ALPA is here, now and has a huge following. Their cameras are precise, well made and second to none.

How in the world can ANYONE come to a conclusion such as this and make such a subjective statement?

Unbelievable.

rethmeier · « **Reply #134 on:** August 28, 2008, 09:10:18 pm »

Dear Michael,

I hereby apologize to you and all the Alpa,Horseman,Cambo users.

My statement was certainly out of order.

However for some people the arTec might be a better solution for their photography.

Happy shooting!

Regards,

Willem.

fuzzyfoto · « **Reply #135 on:** August 29, 2008, 12:10:25 am »

alpa has thrown down the gauntlet with regard to technical camera quality. sinar has taken up the gauntlet but it remains to be seen whether the quality of the artec can live up to the quality and durability of alpa cameras. it's a tall task.

thsinar · « **Reply #136 on:** August 29, 2008, 12:30:36 am »

I would not have much concerns concerning "quality" and "durability", given our long history and experience when manufacturing cameras.

The arTec will be (is) up to the task.

Best regards,
Thierry

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alpa has thrown down the gauntlet with regard to technical camera quality. sinar has taken up the gauntlet but it remains to be seen whether the quality of the artec can live up to the quality and durability of alpa cameras. it's a tall task.
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thsinar · « **Reply #137 on:** September 04, 2008, 10:27:10 am »

I guess some interesting information concerning the Sinar arTec camera:

1. Availability

The arTec is confirmed to be available in October 2008, after the Photokina

2. Adaption

It is planed to have a Hasselblad V interface available as per 1st Q 2009

Best regards,
Thierry

thsinar · « **Reply #138 on:** September 20, 2008, 01:20:01 am »

Update

The first serie of 25 Sinar arTec cameras are in production since last week. Shipment of the first units to our distributors should start after Photokina.

Best regards,
Thierry

rainer_v · « **Reply #139 on:** September 20, 2008, 05:21:55 am »

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Update

The first serie of 25 Sinar arTec cameras are in production since last week. Shipment of the first units to our distributors should start after Photokina.

Best regards,
Thierry
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congratulations to SINAR.
honestly i was not expecting that the camera will ship so fast.

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