Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa

[digitaldog]

Don’t go down Alan’s Cuomo rabbit hole. As you have already noted, it is filled with false facts and logical fallacies.

I'm done with that rabbit hole. Fact checking is getting to be a full time job and not the best use of my time. Making Chiles En Nogada, that's far better time spent.

[John Camp]

Did anyone else notice in the video from the hearings today, that one of the leading flags at the beginning of the attack on the Capitol was actually a large...Canadian flag? Sort of a puzzle. One of the other things I noticed was the it was a perfect day for flag-flying, they way all the flags stood out in a brisk breeze.

[Chris Kern]

Did anyone else notice in the video from the hearings today, that one of the leading flags at the beginning of the attack on the Capitol was actually a large...Canadian flag?

Yikes!  That's really what they call a false-flag operation!

[Alan Klein]

So to finish, you cannot show us that this statement is factual:I'll let people read what you wrote, that you can't prove, themselves and draw their own conclusions about your writings. Ah, so you found something with a value 13000, that doesn't backup what you wrote and quoted above and below. You saw 13000 and just assumed they all died by being moved, the article speaks of HIGHER than previously thought.
Can you tell us why, in the future, we shouldn't keep fact checking what you write?

Don't leave now.  It's getting more interesting.

Melissa DeRosa’s admission on nursing home coverup sparks calls for probe — and Cuomo’s prosecution

The stunning admission by Gov. Cuomo’s top aide that the administration withheld the state’s nursing home death toll out of fear that the damning numbers would “be used against us” by the feds has sparked bipartisan calls for a thorough probe — and prosecution of the governor.
https://nypost.com/2021/02/12/cuomo-aides-admission-on-nursing-home-coverup-sparks-calls-for-probe/

[digitaldog]

Thank you again for confirming to your readers that you do not understand what actually happened, what is being reported, and what you wrote through your further misunderstandings.
Minus one “respect bitcoin”.

[Alan Klein]

Thank you again for confirming to your readers that you do not understand what actually happened, what is being reported, and what you wrote through your further misunderstandings.
Minus one “respect bitcoin”.

As a New Yorker for 68 years, I know exactly what happened and it was reported here in the articles.  I'll let the readers make up their own minds about what Cuomo did and the casualties he created. If you'd like to hear about the case, click on the below link as they describe 15,000 deaths in nursing homes and NY Gov. Cuomo's hiding the death numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWpiRo60ulc

[digitaldog]

As a New Yorker for 68 years, I know exactly what happened and it was reported here in the articles.  I'll let the readers make up their own minds about what Cuomo did and the casualties he created. If you'd like to hear about the case, click on the below link as they describe 15,000 deaths in nursing homes and NY Gov. Cuomo's hiding the death numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWpiRo60ulc

Often wrong never in doubt. You probably now believe after reading this article; “all original prints are 13,000 dpi.” 🥵

[Robert Roaldi]

Did anyone else notice in the video from the hearings today, that one of the leading flags at the beginning of the attack on the Capitol was actually a large...Canadian flag? ...

Remember in the days after the 9/11 attack, Hilary made a speech about "terrorists from Canada". Maybe she was right. 

It might have been the international branch of the Proud Boys, or somebody. I know a couple of politicians up here have recently been censored by their respective parties for spouting absurdities. I've forgotten who they were, but I remember that one was pictured in a MAGA t-shirt (or maybe it was a hat, it's all vague in my mind). Maybe in their fevered frenzy worrying about the end of civilization, they forgot what country they were living in. Up till a few months ago, the Conservative party was using the phrase "taking back Canada", but they never specified from whom. Sounds like focus-group tested messaging, some vague rebellion-light, we have to get things back to how they used to be. Funny how people think things were better back in the day, at some vague time in the past that's never defined. What foolishness, honestly it's embarrassing to listen to.

[faberryman]

As a New Yorker for 68 years, I know exactly what happened and it was reported here in the articles.

What does being a New Yorker for 68 years have to do with knowing exactly what happened? How many years do you have to be a New Yorker to know exactly what happened? Is it really 68? How about 17, or 32 or 49? 

And yet, you have been an American for 76 years and yet you can't seem to figure out why Trump's COVID response was so pathetic.

Then there is the fact that the story was in the New York Post. Remember all that about Hunter Biden's laptop with videos of him sexually abusing underage Chinese girls?  Not exactly the most trusted source for news. Quick question: have you read the New York Attorney General's 80 page report I posted here a couple of weeks ago? I did. I have never been a New Yorker and have a pretty good idea what happened. Let's just say it was a little more comprehensive and nuanced than the "bombshell" article in the New York Post.

Finally, at least for this post, even if you assume for the sake of argument that Cuomo is a monster, how does that exonerate Trump?

[Alan Klein]

What does being a New Yorker for 68 years have to do with knowing exactly what happened? How many years do you have to be a New Yorker to know exactly what happened? Is it really 68? How about 17, or 32 or 49?

And yet, you have been an American for 76 years and yet you can't seem to figure out why Trump's COVID response was so pathetic.

Then there is the fact that the story was in the New York Post. Remember all that about Hunter Biden's laptop with videos of him sexually abusing underage Chinese girls?  Not exactly the most trusted source for news. I think I'll wait until we have more information before drawing a conclusion. Not that I am all that interested in what happened in New York.

Quick question: have you read the New York Attorney General's 80n page report I posted here a couple of weeks ago?

Finally, at least for this post, even if you assume for the sake of argument that Cuomo is a monster, how does that exonerate Trump?

Everyone here was blaming Trump.  I've been trying to remind people that almost all of the directives for shutting things down within the states including quarantining, etc. came from governors, not the Federal government and not from Trump.  Of course, in retrospect, everyone could have done things differently and better if they knew exactly what was going to happen.  But as Yogi Berra once said, “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”

[faberryman]

Nikki Haley said she has parted from the Trump cult. Apparently January 6th was a bridge too far. Everything up to and including January 5th was fine, but January 6th was too much.

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2021/magazine-nikki-haleys-choice/

[faberryman]

Everyone here was blaming Trump.  I've been trying to remind people that almost all of the directives for shutting things down within the states including quarantining, etc. came from governors, not the Federal government and not from Trump.  Of course, in retrospect, everyone could have done things differently and better if they knew exactly what was going to happen.  But as Yogi Berra once said, “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”

Of course, I didn't expect you to address any of the questions in my post, and you didn't let me down. More of the same. If you are not going to address the questions in my posts, please do not quote them and pretend that you are.

[Alan Klein]

Nikki Haley said she has parted from the Trump cult. Apparently January 6th was a bridge too far. Everything up to and including January 5th was fine, but January 6th was too much.

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2021/magazine-nikki-haleys-choice/

She's abandoning the ship and looking toward her political future.

[Alan Klein]

Of course, I didn't expect you to address any of the questions in my post, and you didn't let me down. If you are not going to address the questions in my posts, please do not quote them and pretend that you are.

You're not my teacher asking questions I have to answer. I respond how I wish to respond.  In the meanwhile, you skirted my points. 

[digitaldog]

Everyone here was blaming Trump. 

Ah, we're now back to the old, sad, and untrue "everyone" rubbish; speaking for others and no less everyone here. 
There are two ways to take this and the made up statement who's only accurate bit was a value (13000), the rest utterly made up or assumed:
 
Without absurdity, we would have no one to laugh at. Thank you for your contributions this morning (more to come, no question).
Or
“Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices.” -Voltaire,

[faberryman]

You're not my teacher asking questions I have to answer. I respond how I wish to respond.  In the meanwhile, you skirted my points.

You certainly don't have to answer my questions. When you elect not to, don't quote my post and pretend that you are.

About your point that "Everyone here was blaming Trump": poor Donald Trump; poor poor Donald Trump. Can we all have a big boo-hoo cry-along for poor Donald Trump. Whenever anyone hurts your feelings because they point out the Trump has made an error, or a series of errors, or has created a complete clusterfuck of a situation, or is generally a despicable human being, you have to jump to his defense and deflect the conversation away from Trump with whatabouts. Do you realize how many whatabouts you have done in less that 24 hours? Well, there was Cuomo, Newsome, European leaders, the CDC, Fauci, the Chinese, and ...wait for it... wait for it... everyone in the world. Yes, you whatabouted everyone in the world. Did I mention that whatabouts are logical fallacies?

Of course, in retrospect, everyone could have done things differently and better if they knew exactly what was going to happen.

[jeremyrh]

Thank you again for confirming to your readers that you do not understand what actually happened, what is being reported, and what you wrote through your further misunderstandings.
Minus one “respect bitcoin”.

Whenever Alan writes something, you know that a little digging will reveal that the truth is something different.
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/statement-secretary-governor-melissa-derosa-0

Respect for the forum members is not just about not calling them names; it's also about being honest in the information you present to them, and doing a little research before pressing the Post button.

[Alan Klein]

Whenever Alan writes something, you know that a little digging will reveal that the truth is something different.
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/statement-secretary-governor-melissa-derosa-0

Respect for the forum members is not just about not calling them names; it's also about being honest in the information you present to them, and doing a little research before pressing the Post button.

That link posts to a new statement by the secretary backtracking from what she said earlier to rescue her boss Gov Cuomo.  Obviously she was put up to it.  I would go with her original statement to the governmental committee where she said her boss was afraid of a Federal investigation and hid the real facts and casualties from them and the public.  If there's an investigation, she'll be sworn to tell the truth, not some phoney press release that BS's the media and the public who really aren't fooled by it in any case.   Why would you want to protect Cuomo?  He's a sleazebag, always has been.

[Alan Klein]

If you won't believe the NY Post, maybe you'll believe the NY Times. The least Cuomo should do is give back his Emmy.

New Allegations of Cover-Up by Cuomo Over Nursing Home Virus Toll
In a leaked conversation, the governor’s top aide admitted that data was withheld on nursing homes, where more than 10,000 New Yorkers have died during the pandemic.
Feb. 12, 2021
Updated 11:47 a.m. ET
ALBANY, N.Y. — Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and his top aides were facing new allegations on Friday that they covered up the scope of the death toll in the state’s nursing homes from the coronavirus, after admissions that they withheld data in an effort to forestall potential investigations into state misconduct.

The latest revelations came in the wake of private remarks by the governor’s top aide, Melissa DeRosa, and a cascading series of reports and court orders that have nearly doubled the state’s official toll of nursing home deaths in the last two weeks.

The disclosures have left Mr. Cuomo, a third-term Democrat, scrambling to contain the political fallout, as lawmakers of both parties call for censure, including stripping the governor of his emergency powers during the pandemic, federal and state investigations and resignations of Ms. DeRosa and other top officials.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/12/nyregion/new-york-nursing-homes-cuomo.html#commentsContainer

[faberryman]

Whenever Alan writes something, you know that a little digging will reveal that the truth is something different.
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/statement-secretary-governor-melissa-derosa-0

I hope you are not suggesting that the New York Post is a tabloid with a long record of unreliable reporting, because if you are, there are going to be a couple of people around here that are take umbrage at such a characterization, even though it is true.

To change the subject for a moment, I just got flipped on the TV and it looks like Bruce "Meandering Man" Castor, Trump's lawyer from Day One, who was wearing the gangster suit, has been replaced by another guy, let's just call him Yosemite Sam for the time being, because he was yelling at one of the slides, but anyway, he was whatabouting about all sorts of things that have nothing to do with Trump inciting an insurrection, just like Alan. This of course means he doesn't want to talk about Trump inciting an insurrection, which is understandable.