Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa

[digitaldog]

The manufacturing process for batteries pollute as  well and contribute more CO2 to the atmosphere which causes global warming if you believe most environmental scientists.

More of Alan's myths of course. Often wrong, never in doubt, our 'boy' Alan.
Zoologist, Economist, Virologist, Climatologist, legal scholar, now environmental scientist, and he still has time to practice the hobby of Photography. 


https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths

FACT: Electric vehicles typically have a smaller carbon footprint than gasoline cars, even when accounting for the electricity used for charging.

Electric vehicles (EVs) have no tailpipe emissions. Generating the electricity used to charge EVs, however, may create carbon pollution. The amount varies widely based on how local power is generated, e.g., using coal or natural gas, which emit carbon pollution, versus renewable resources like wind or solar, which do not. Even accounting for these electricity emissions, research shows that an EV is typically responsible for lower levels of greenhouse gases (GHGs) than an average new gasoline car. To the extent that more renewable energy sources like wind and solar are used to generate electricity, the total GHGs associated with EVs could be even lower. (In 2020, renewables became the second-most prevalent U.S. electricity source.1 ) Learn more about electricity production in your area by visiting EPA’s Power Profiler interactive web page. By simply inputting your zip code, you can find the energy mix in your region.

And to discount the knee-jerk, unsubstantiated claims we see so often from Mr. Klein:

Myth #5: Electric vehicles are worse for the climate than gasoline cars because of battery manufacturing.

FACT: The greenhouse gas emissions associated with an electric vehicle over its lifetime are typically lower than those from an average gasoline-powered vehicle, even when accounting for manufacturing.

Some studies have shown that making a typical electric vehicle (EV) can create more carbon pollution than making a gasoline car. This is because of the additional energy required to manufacture an EV’s battery. Still, over the lifetime of the vehicle, total greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions associated with manufacturing, charging, and driving an EV are typically lower than the total GHGs associated with a gasoline car. That’s because EVs have zero tailpipe emissions and are typically responsible for significantly fewer GHGs during operation (see Myth 1 above).

[TechTalk]

There are Republicans in the committee, there would be more if they hadn’t refused to participate.

They refused to participate in the committee hearings because so many willingly did participate in spreading the Big Lie about the election.

[TechTalk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4d4S7kHzjw

Good summary by a Republican about what Trump did to steal an election based on testimonies under oath.

100% clear, not the least doubt.

No doubt whatsoever. Still, the dishonest and dishonorable that place party and ideology above freedom and democracy will cover their eyes and ears, pretend that it's politics as usual, try to draw some false equivalence, and point in some other direction as a distraction.

[Robert Roaldi]

Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are the only Republicans on the committee. Both have previously voted to impeach Trump because he tried to destroy them politically.  So now they're returning the favor and are trying to destroy him.

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Get a grip.

[digitaldog]

Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are the only Republicans on the committee. Both have previously voted to impeach Trump because he tried to destroy them politically.  So now they're returning the favor and are trying to destroy him.

The committee is run by Democrats who will not call defense witnesses to support the other side nor is there any effective cross-examination of the witnesses picked deliberately who make Trump look bad.   

The whole thing is a show trial by democrats to help them in the midterm elections.

Get a grip.

Is he unconsciously clueless or a conscious fabulist ?

[Robert Roaldi]

Overturning Roe vs Wade is just the beginning if some have their way, https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3535841-thomas-calls-for-overturning-precedents-on-contraceptives-lgbtq-rights/.

I wonder if they'll start putting gays in jail again. And what do they have against contraception?

Being ruled by a religious minority is never a good thing. All those people who thought that voting was a waste of time may reconsider. I wonder if voter turnouts will increase in the future.

I read a headline about Trump being happy about the ruling. Maybe he thinks he'll eventually be the permanent ruler in Gilead.

[PeterAit]

I saw a Ted presentation recently that indicated that you have to run an EV for tens of thousands of miles until you can offset the CO2 used to build the battery with the savings of CO2 using electric to run the car.  The bigger the battery to extend range, the worse it gets.

According to the EPA, an EV produces less than half the global warming emission than a gas car, including manufacture, power generation, and disposal. As more renewables come onto the grid, more batteries age-out and can be recycled, and technology impproves, this ratio will only improve.

https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths

And it's true that charging can be an issue in some areas. So you plan your trips! Do you think gas stations were ubiquitous back when gas cars were starting to become popular? Biden has a great plan for hundreds of thousands of new chargers.

[PeterAit]

And what do they have against contraception?

Being ruled by a religious minority is never a good thing.

The absolute worst hypocrisy is people who are against abortion also being against contraception.

Being ruled by a religious majority is also never a good thing.

[PeterAit]

Is there a fee?  I don't understand why no one but Tesla builds fast chargers? 

I think states and federal governments should charge EV owners a tax for use of the highways since they don't pay tax for it by not needing to buy gasoline.  Gasoline taxes pay for the upkeep of the roads.

Crikey, Alan, there are non-Tesla fast chargers all over! Not as many as needed, but that's changing.

As for gas tax, here in NC we pay an extra $140 registration fee for our EV to make up for the lost gas tax. I think this is perfectly legit.

[PeterAit]

The committee is run by Democrats who will not call defense witnesses to support the other side.   

Utter nonsense. The committee has called numerous people who are Trump supporters (defense withnesses) and they have almost all refused to testify, even when subpoenaed. And it's a hearing, not a trial, so the rules that apply to trials do not apply. The goal is not to determine someone's guilt but to determine what actually happened.

[Robert Roaldi]

Utter nonsense. The committee has called numerous people who are Trump supporters (defense withnesses) and they have almost all refused to testify, even when subpoenaed. And it's a hearing, not a trial, so the rules that apply to trials do not apply. The goal is not to determine someone's guilt but to determine what actually happened.

Does Alan ever get anything right.

[Robert Roaldi]

The absolute worst hypocrisy is people who are against abortion also being against contraception.

Being ruled by a religious majority is also never a good thing.

Too true.

[digitaldog]

Does Alan ever get anything right.

Not that I've seen here and no matter how many point that out to him, it falls on (his) deaf ears. Which is why trying to talk sense to him is folly. Until everyone here ends up on his ignore list (like me) or everyone ignores his rubbish, it's just food for his trolling.

[TechTalk]

Utter nonsense. The committee has called numerous people who are Trump supporters (defense withnesses) and they have almost all refused to testify, even when subpoenaed. And it's a hearing, not a trial, so the rules that apply to trials do not apply. The goal is not to determine someone's guilt but to determine what actually happened.

The goal in posting utter nonsense is to get a response from someone, if you're seeking attention. In which case, all fact or evidence is completely irrelevant.

[Alan Klein]

Utter nonsense. The committee has called numerous people who are Trump supporters (defense withnesses) and they have almost all refused to testify, even when subpoenaed. And it's a hearing, not a trial, so the rules that apply to trials do not apply. The goal is not to determine someone's guilt but to determine what actually happened.

When the Republicans win Congress in November and start Republican led hearings on Joe Biden and his son for selling of the vice president seat for financial gain, I think you'll start agreeing with me.

[digitaldog]

When the Republicans win Congress in November and start Republican led hearings on Joe Biden and his son for selling of the vice president seat for financial gain, I think you'll start agreeing with me.

When pigs fly.

[Alan Klein]

Crikey, Alan, there are non-Tesla fast chargers all over! Not as many as needed, but that's changing.

As for gas tax, here in NC we pay an extra $140 registration fee for our EV to make up for the lost gas tax. I think this is perfectly legit.

can non Tesla cars use the Tesla fast charger and what does Tesla charge for that service?

Regarding charges that will be built by the government infrastructure bill, who's going to run then? Who's going to collect the profits? Who decides how much they could charge? 
How is competition going to be determined?

[digitaldog]

can non Tesla cars use the Tesla fast charger and what does Tesla charge for that service?

Regarding charges that will be built by the government infrastructure bill, who's going to run then? Who's going to collect the profits? Who decides how much they could charge? 
How is competition going to be determined?

Warning: Troll bait.

[TechTalk]

* A public service health message

What You Should Know About Attention-Seeking Behavior in Adults

https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/attention-seeking-behavior

What is it?

For adults, attention-seeking behavior is a conscious or unconscious attempt to become the center of attention, sometimes to gain validation or admiration.

What it may look like

Attention-seeking behavior can include saying or doing something with the goal of getting the attention of a person or a group of people.

Examples of this behavior include:

• fishing for compliments by pointing out achievements and seeking validation

• being controversial to provoke a reaction

• exaggerating and embellishing stories to gain praise or sympathy

• pretending to be unable to do something so someone will teach, help, or watch the attempt to do it

[Alan Klein]

* A public service health message

What You Should Know About Attention-Seeking Behavior in Adults

https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/attention-seeking-behavior

What is it?

For adults, attention-seeking behavior is a conscious or unconscious attempt to become the center of attention, sometimes to gain validation or admiration.

What it may look like

Attention-seeking behavior can include saying or doing something with the goal of getting the attention of a person or a group of people.

Examples of this behavior include:

• fishing for compliments by pointing out achievements and seeking validation

• being controversial to provoke a reaction

• exaggerating and embellishing stories to gain praise or sympathy

• pretending to be unable to do something so someone will teach, help, or watch the attempt to do it

It seems you'd rather attack people than debate ideas.