SureColor P9570

[StuartR]

I am not sure how it lays down the overcoat, but in doing a quick test at my dealer, I did notice that the overcoat did what it says it does...it reduced the gloss differential in the deep shadows. When there was glare on the print, the one without the overcoat appeared slightly more matte in the deep blacks, while in the print with the overcoat, the shine on the paper was uniform. I recall that the difference was not otherwise that obvious, but I will have a look at the prints again in the daylight tomorrow.

[Rand47]

I am not sure how it lays down the overcoat, but in doing a quick test at my dealer, I did notice that the overcoat did what it says it does...it reduced the gloss differential in the deep shadows. When there was glare on the print, the one without the overcoat appeared slightly more matte in the deep blacks, while in the print with the overcoat, the shine on the paper was uniform. I recall that the difference was not otherwise that obvious, but I will have a look at the prints again in the daylight tomorrow.

Data point:   

On this image, e.g., on my 7570.....


(Mount Whitney Portal - 2020,   GFX 100, 100-200 GF zoom.)

Even when printed on Baryta or Platine paper stock (as opposed to a true “gloss surface paper”), using “Enhance Black Overcoat” (EBO) makes a significant difference in image quality.  Not just gloss differential in the dark tones, but detail visible going deep into the dark tones and the overall “apparent” dMax in the print.  All this just a visual comparison between “with” and “without.”  I have a picky eye, but my wife who does not, picked the EBO print as superior even though she could not articulate exactly why.

For “some images” this new feature is a game-changer.

Rand

[robmaci]

Thank all you folks for this info - it really does help us all make amazing prints!

I wish I could participate but after only 24 hours of owning the new P9570, it has died on me.  I'm awaiting a tech to come in 5 days from now (due to unusually high service calls) uh-oh.

It died in the middle of a print and gave me a 001A49 error

Then on restart, it gave me a 00122D error

Now, every time I restart the printer, I'm given a 00153F error

Really disappointing since I owned a 9900 for 5 years without a single issue.  I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that this is just a few dud parts and everything will be clean sailing after it's fixed......to be continued

[Rand47]

Thank all you folks for this info - it really does help us all make amazing prints!

I wish I could participate but after only 24 hours of owning the new P9570, it has died on me.  I'm awaiting a tech to come in 5 days from now (due to unusually high service calls) uh-oh.

It died in the middle of a print and gave me a 001A49 error

Then on restart, it gave me a 00122D error

Now, every time I restart the printer, I'm given a 00153F error

Really disappointing since I owned a 9900 for 5 years without a single issue.  I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that this is just a few dud parts and everything will be clean sailing after it's fixed......to be continued

Sorry to hear this.  Keep us posted on what the tech finds, maybe even what the codes mean?  Hopefully something simple and obvious so that you’ll be up and running again quickly.

Rand

[BrianWJH]

Might be worth checking for any paper feed issue such as loose, stuck paper or any protective packing tape or foam pieces in the paper path or platen area.

Brian.

[robmaci]

Might be worth checking for any paper feed issue such as loose, stuck paper or any protective packing tape or foam pieces in the paper path or platen area.

Brian.

Cheers!  I'll try that!

[robmaci]

1 week and the printer is still broken

2 full days of Epson techs here and they still haven’t fixed it. Need to get even more parts sent to come in for a third (and hopefully last) day.

Not good...

[tharrington]

1 week and the printer is still broken

2 full days of Epson techs here and they still haven’t fixed it. Need to get even more parts sent to come in for a third (and hopefully last) day.

Not good...

Any luck getting it fixed over the last couple of days?  Sorry for the trouble you've experienced... I know it is frustrating.

[soboyle]

Just purchased a P7570. First print is not matching my Lightroom preview, instead of a 1" border, the print is shifted 2 1/2 inches up on the paper, and the top of the print is cut off.
Firmware on the printer, it is LK28K7. The Epson website shows LK03K7 as the current firmware, but when I try to update the firmware I get the message: Downgraded, Can Not Be Upgraded.
Perhaps LK28K7 is the latest firmware? I'm not familiar with Epson's firmware numbering sequence.
The print shift and preview issue sounds a lot like what Rand was experiencing.

[John Hollenberg]

Firmware on the printer, it is LK28K7. The Epson website shows LK03K7 as the current firmware, but when I try to update the firmware I get the message: Downgraded, Can Not Be Upgraded.
Perhaps LK28K7 is the latest firmware? I'm not familiar with Epson's firmware numbering sequence.

Firmware LK03K7 is dated 7/16/20 on Epson web site

I managed to find LK28K7 for Epson 7580 on Epson China web site using google translate.  Date is 8/10/20 so perhaps you have the latest firmware?

[Rand47]

Just purchased a P7570. First print is not matching my Lightroom preview, instead of a 1" border, the print is shifted 2 1/2 inches up on the paper, and the top of the print is cut off.
Firmware on the printer, it is LK28K7. The Epson website shows LK03K7 as the current firmware, but when I try to update the firmware I get the message: Downgraded, Can Not Be Upgraded.
Perhaps LK28K7 is the latest firmware? I'm not familiar with Epson's firmware numbering sequence.
The print shift and preview issue sounds a lot like what Rand was experiencing.

By ‘up’ do you mean “shifted away from the leading edge?”  Are you using cut sheets or rolls?  Are you using Enhance Black Overcoat?  Mac or Windows? 

Rand

[soboyle]

Yes, shifted away from the leading edge, using 8 1/2x11 Prem Luster cut sheets for initial tests on Windows 10, no black overcoat.

[Rand47]

Yes, shifted away from the leading edge, using 8 1/2x11 Prem Luster cut sheets for initial tests on Windows 10, no black overcoat.

OK, thanks... wracking my brain here to remember.   I’m away from my print studio until the end of the month, so cannot get on and look at my default settings.  i can tell you it is something simple, but undocumented.  Make sure you have the latest driver.  Use the Epson Software Updater utility to check this. Make sure the “centered image” is unchecked.   Make sure your trailing edge margin is “at least” 0.56”.  There’s also an “edge quality” setting that should be “standard” but cannot remember precisely where in the driver this is.  Make sure the media type and size selected in the driver matches the parameters used when loading paper via the printer’s LCD menu.  That’s all I can think of (remember) at the moment. 

Rand

[soboyle]

Thanks Rand, I'll check these out. I did notice that I couldn't use a dimension less than .56" on the leading edge of the print when setting borders in Lightroom, and will confirm a larger border on the trailing edge.

[Rand47]

Thanks Rand, I'll check these out. I did notice that I couldn't use a dimension less than .56" on the leading edge of the print when setting borders in Lightroom, and will confirm a larger border on the trailing edge.

The terminology gets confusing.  It is always the “tailing edge coming out of the printer” that is .56” minimum.  If you think about it, the printer has to be able to “hang on to” the paper until you release it. 

Rand

[soboyle]

Any thoughts on which inks are likely to run out first on the P7570?
I won't be buying a full set, but replacing cartridges as needed, and will stock up on the 2 or 3 that typically run out first.
I think Light Gray was mentioned in this thread. Thoughts on others that are typically the first to go?

[mearussi]

Any thoughts on which inks are likely to run out first on the P7570?
I won't be buying a full set, but replacing cartridges as needed, and will stock up on the 2 or 3 that typically run out first.
I think Light Gray was mentioned in this thread. Thoughts on others that are typically the first to go?

It's pretty much the same for all printers, the light inks go first along with yellow.

[unesco]

I have just made a summary of empty cartridges for my P800 and 3880 I have used in the last 4-5 years. The conclusion of usage is as follows:

(PK+MK) = LK = LLK =~LVM =~LC =~Y ~= 2x C ~= 2x M

Because I have printed some percentage of B&W with QTR, one may assume that B&W inks usage would be the same as light colorants (a bit less Y than other light colorants). "~" means +-10% difference.

I was surprised with LK, since the urban legend says those printers use most of LK.

As for the new printer, I suppose the usage of O, G and V will be the lowest.

[JRSmit]

LK by far, others more dependent on colors in print. When i swapped my 9500 the LK was on 1/3 remaining, the others on or above 2/3 remaining. I print mainly color, about 20% b&w.

[soboyle]

Is there a default admin password for Epson printers, or the P7570 in particular? I'm unable to update the firmware, it's asking for a password, and I did not create one when installing the printer (and Epson tech support is not open until Monday morning).
I'm hoping the updated firmware will resolve a scaling issue I am seeing. I'm trying to print a target for profiling a paper I have, the target is printing small, about 96% of full size, and so not usable for creating a profile. I'm printing using the Adobe color print utility, and have triple checked all settings.