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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #540 on: June 24, 2016, 08:23:02 am »

Got the green light for Hassy USA so here we go :

The upcoming XCD 30 mm f/3,5 will have superior MTF, so superior that it will outperform the actual HCD 28mm f/4.

Every guys worried about wide landscape superior IQ can sleep very well and start to save money. Not that much money after all it will be around 3K US$.
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #541 on: June 24, 2016, 08:27:41 am »

Got the green light for Hassy USA so here we go :

The upcoming XCD 30 mm f/3,5 will have superior MTF, so superior that it will outperform the actual HCD 28mm f/4.

Every guys worried about wide landscape superior IQ can sleep very well and start to save money. Not that much money after all it will be around 3K US$.
Except that 30mm on this sensor isn't really all that wide... ;)
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #542 on: June 24, 2016, 08:35:05 am »

eronald, it's quite obvious you have a low opinion of contributors here and photographers in general.

Couple that with his near non existant experience with medium format cameras, it's perfect white noise.
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #543 on: June 24, 2016, 09:04:25 am »

The upcoming XCD 30 mm f/3,5 will have superior MTF, so superior that it will outperform the actual HCD 28mm f/4.

Sounds great, 24mm equivalent is just about perfect.

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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #544 on: June 24, 2016, 10:16:48 am »

Looks, status and brand is a factor when people buy cameras, yes. That's why there are luxury editions or accessories. It's not the only factor but it's there more or less depending on the buyer. Leica and Hasselblad has the brands that can build on that more than others.
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #545 on: June 24, 2016, 10:31:26 am »

Numbers have never been my strong point.

Bernard, is that 24mm equivalent to 3:2 format once the 4:3 format has been cropped to 3:2?
It's angle of view, in other words on the diagonal.  So it wouldn't be quite as wide as a 24mm on a 35mm camera but a little taller.
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #546 on: June 24, 2016, 10:38:43 am »

I've been looking at the camera and its specs wondering if it really is the camera for me and then noticed the cost of the lenses available were really relatively cheap. Are the X1D lenses barrels made of plastic or similar or is it just the H lenses are way over priced considering both have leaf shutters capable of 1/2000 sec?
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #547 on: June 24, 2016, 12:00:48 pm »

I've been looking at the camera and its specs wondering if it really is the camera for me and then noticed the cost of the lenses available were really relatively cheap. Are the X1D lenses barrels made of plastic or similar or is it just the H lenses are way over priced considering both have leaf shutters capable of 1/2000 sec?

I haven't fingered on them but making them from plastic would be a huge mistake, I would be most surprised. Less margin on them I would guess to improve sales volume, and also smaller image circle.

MF lenses are "overpriced"  for sure if you compare to 135 format, so there is a wider span for the manufacturer to adapt prices to what the target market is prepared to pay. The whole X1D system is more camera for the money than the H6 system, so I guess lens prices is affected too.
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #548 on: June 24, 2016, 12:20:31 pm »

eronald, it's quite obvious you have a low opinion of contributors here and photographers in general.

No, I do not have a low opinion of people who follow fashion to belong - after all this is what every fashion photographer sells. But I know that my cheap biker's leather jacket is as warm, tough, and long lasting as my expensive Armani. And a Swatch keeps time as well as a Rolex.

The Pentax has the same sensor as the Phase and Hassy 50mp cameras; fashionable people don't buy it because it is a no-nonsense  unfashionable "value"  brick, marketed to retiree japanese landscape shooters and low-budget hardworking pro photographers. The Leica S on the other hand is a luxury product that happens to be a very good camera.

I use an Elinchrom flash system with an Octabank 6' dish. Came an AD and model and said "we don't know what crappy flash you are using, but it did work. "  They were pointing out so nicely that I wasn't using Profoto. Should I have a bad opinion of them because they are trendy?

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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #549 on: June 24, 2016, 12:35:35 pm »

yadi yadi ya
I think my 5 year old should join us in this kindergarten .)

Edmund
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #550 on: June 24, 2016, 12:38:10 pm »

Looks, status and brand is a factor when people buy cameras, yes. That's why there are luxury editions or accessories. It's not the only factor but it's there more or less depending on the buyer. Leica and Hasselblad has the brands that can build on that more than others.

Isn't that the same with all kind of consumer goods. Some people put emphasis on design and brand, others have a more utilitarian view of life. I couldn't care less, in which camp each member of this forum is. But something is clear to me, this X1D attracts people of the first camp, SWC-DNA (some see Mamiya 7, don't know if Hasselblad likes the idea), surprising form factor, one of the most valuable brands in the photographic worlds resurrected ... 
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #551 on: June 24, 2016, 01:43:37 pm »

With perhaps Fuji and others joining the medium format digital club will 44x33 become the new 36x24?

 :-\

 ;)

MFT is dead, APS is dead, and FF is looking so pale ... :-\
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #552 on: June 24, 2016, 04:12:54 pm »

Good idea.

He or she probably has as much experience with medium format digital cameras as some contributors posting here.

Hahaha.
Right on point.
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #553 on: June 24, 2016, 05:28:30 pm »

I have a full range of HC lenses that could be used with the X1D. The one HC lens that I would be concerned about hanging off the front of the X1D because of its size is the 210mm. It doesn't have a tripod foot. Unnecessary with an H series body. RRS does not seem to offer generic lens collars wit tripod feet. Hasselblad should consider offering one for the HC 210.
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #554 on: June 24, 2016, 05:57:14 pm »

Agreed Howard I think lens collars will be really important as the body will be hanging off the lens not the other way around.
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #555 on: June 24, 2016, 06:13:28 pm »

Rob, really, do you honestly think folk here buy cameras because they're pretty. You must have a very low opinion of your fellow contributors.

Keith,

"Yes, the new 'blad is a very pretty machine, but when it comes down to paying for such an item, I think it requires to be more than that. People hold it up as being great for landscape; well, I'm not a landscape aficionado, but even with the limited work I have done in that province I realise the requirement for camera movements to be important; hell, even on 135 format it helps, if only to get some rise or fall!"

I thought it necessary to post the entire sequence of words from which you quoted. My original reading of your post was that you were being tongue-in-cheek; I'm not so sure now, as this thread has progressed.

So just for the record: I am not expressing an opinion on fellow contributors at all; frankly I never gave them a thought when I penned those words. They are simply my view that the camera looks pretty, costs a lot of money, but doesn't deliver anything particularly wonderful in the sense of helping the landscape shooter do his shots any the better. He needs something different: movements.

And no, even 135 format couldn't come up with it, despite the introduction of something called a Kennedy - I think it was called that - a 135 monorail that turned out to be far too tiny to allow human fingers to operate it, and the bellows to handle wides.

If folks want to buy pretty why not? Far better doing that than pissing it against the wall somewhere. But not for me when it comes to cameras. If I spend on photography I still feel it needs justification, that I shall be getting something worthwhile out of it that's reflected in what I produce. It was exactly like that when I was working and could easily buy whatever I felt I needed. It wasn't about numbers, but about value to me. That's not been lost.

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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #556 on: June 24, 2016, 06:17:09 pm »

Good idea.

He or she probably has as much experience with medium format digital cameras as some contributors posting here.

As I have little experience with MF, I hope you won't mind my saying that of all the cameras I have used, the one I enjoyed using most was my 500C or whatever the "cheap on sale" model with 80mm was called. I carted the thing around in my backpack around the world, and hugely enjoyed taking it out from time to time for ... one shot on Fujichrome 1600, metering with the cheapest incident light Sekonic meter. I had an ancient Rollei 6x6 slide projector. Before the Hassy I had a russian Kiev - with I think a 30mm? fisheye in addition to a couple of other lenses.

My experience with digital MF was bad, I never merged with the Phamiya and eventuallly sold it. For some reason no art I ever did with the Phase ever sold. All my "pro" images that were published, all the catalog work, and all the art prints I sold I did with Canon, although I used the Phamiya as a travel camera. As we all know, these days  the only reason I pull out a camera is when I want to take an atmospheric image of my kid, and my new "pro" imaging activity is video, although I'm now directing rather than lensing.

I just wish that Hassy had found a way to sell digital versions of the V series rather than starting from scratch. The lenses I was lucky enough to handle were wonderful, and at least for amateur use, the shooting experience delightful.

Edmund
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #557 on: June 24, 2016, 08:47:31 pm »

JV, seems as though there'll be AF after all.

That said, I've only ever owned one camera with AF - Hasselblad H3 - and even then rarely used anything other than manual focus.

Sound great!  Although I probably don't want to invest in another MF system, that being said I have changed my mind before...
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #558 on: June 25, 2016, 02:34:14 am »

+1




I just wish that Hassy had found a way to sell digital versions of the V series rather than starting from scratch. The lenses I was lucky enough to handle were wonderful, and at least for amateur use, the shooting experience delightful.

Edmund
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #559 on: June 25, 2016, 02:42:06 am »

I just wish that Hassy had found a way to sell digital versions of the V series rather than starting from scratch.

Isn't that the CFV-50c?

Cheers,
Bernard
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