Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?

[jvpictures]

will there be AF when using the HC lens adapter? don't know anything about using lens adapters...
and aperture settings, i.e. automatic exposure mode by aperture or shutter pre-dialing?

yes, confirmed. full AF and exposure functionality with HC/HCD lenses when using X1D with the adapter. Adapter is CHF 355 which is around EUR 320 + VAT.
Just ordered and being the first on the order list!

[Zorki5]

Since this was made without Fuji's involvement, I guess it's safe to assume that the Fuji camera will be completely different.
Hopefully, that will come with a focal plane shutter, which will make it more interesting to those like me.

And to those like me.

I'm not interested in it as in a standalone camera, but to be able to attach it to my telescope would be nice -- and, say, 645Z is not an option here, I'm fed up with mirrors, thank you very much; using 5D and 5DII for that was... less than satisfactory.

[tomholdsworth]

I'm interested to see if Hasselblad will be able to offer some sort of lens shift adapter along the lines of the Contax / Rollei / Hasselblad H module solutions for the FPS. I don't know if the flange to sensor dimension of the X1D will permit it (or if their lenses are appropriate for the task), but the ability to apply rise/fall is pretty much a requirement for any camera purchase I contemplate. I know that puts me into a really small pool. Otherwise I think this is a pretty neat platform. I own a tech camera and a Leaf back and there are times where I'd love that functionality in a much smaller and less cumbersome setup.

[Jlister]

I had a dealer tell me there are issues with the adapter and older HCD lenses. Apparently it doesn't work with lenses older than 5-10 years. They are trying to work out the serial numbers. This is a huge question for me because I have 4 HCD lenses and need the focal lengths to transition.

[MoreOrLess]

Three thou too expensive for general adoption world-wide. DMF remains to be niche systems.
No game changer here.
Ready for the A9 announcement.
Eduardo

Honestly I'm not really seeing what the mythical A9 can bring to the table beyond a larger body with better handling/controls, a higher res sensor could just as well be put in a smaller body(and still won't equal the performance of the larger sensor) and it seems very unlikely Sony will suddenly be able to deliver AF performance to suit a sports/journalist/wildlife market plus of course they really lack the lens range to do so.

The X1D isn't anything radically new in terms of performance but I do think size and relative affordability make it an interesting product that potentially opens them up to a wider market. The big advantage with a mirrorless 33x44mm design I would say is that your not just saving size relative to an SLR your also saving size relative to SLR's that have a flange distance designed for 645 film or digital sensors. For a lot of people who are happy shooting a FF DSLR in the 750g-1 kg range probably aren't so happy with the prospect of the Pentax 645z at 1.5 KG and a lot thicker.

[Joe Towner]

Anyone catch the image circle size on the X1D glass?  Can they shoehorn the 100mp chip into one in a year?

There really should be a push for a V to X1D adapter, even at $1,500 it's viable.  All the adapters should be designed with a 2 part lock, once to the lens mount, then a sliding clamp that attaches to the bottom of the camera.  If it was Arca styled, it would be perfect.

[douglevy]

I don't think I'll be buying one (I currently have a H5X and Credo), but this does jump to the front of the, "If I had no cameras or lenses at all, what would I buy." Before today I think it'd have been a toss between the Sony A7 series and the Pentax.

-Doug

[Hulyss]

I have my testing unit by the end of the week start of the month

[JoeKitchen]

Looks like a nice camera and a step in the right direction, however one aspect completely negates all of that, no shutters in the camera body. 

Considering how easy and cheaply it would have been to add on global shutters, the only reason I can think why not is someone at Hasselblad said, "we can't do that because not as many of the lenses would sell."  I am sure regardless of this, there would be a pretty consistent amount of Hassy diehards who would buy bodies and lenses.  I can not imagine those figures varying too much regardless.  However, by not having a shutter in the camera, a large section of potential users have been disregarded. 

In the past year or so, we have seen many architectural and studio shooters attach the Sony's to there bellows camera with great results.  Having a medium format option with, hopefully, better color would have been nice.  This camera does not work here. 

Also, the lens chooses are very limited currently.  I am sure many wedding and event shooters are looking at this as a possibility but now can't justify buying one since no zoom lenses can be used on it.  And we all know how long it usually take Hassy to get things to market; professionals can not base their purchasing decisions on "what ifs."

One of the best features of mirrorless is that, due to the shallow flange depth, virtually any lens ever manufactured, with the right adapter, can be used on them.  I am sure many people have many old unique lenses collecting dust that they would love to use on a digital platform.  Not possible here. 

Hasselblad, with the lack of including an in-camera shutter, has cobbled the creative possibilities for this "game-changer" and greatly limited its user base.  Not the best financial decision IMHO. 

[Chairman Bill]

Hopefully Fujifilm will come along & do it properly

[Hulyss]

The shutter is on the H system if one need one. In the same time the XD-1 lenses are not that much expensive for LS lenses ...

The X1-D is priced €7900 without VAT. The 45mm less than 2K without VAT and the 90mm a bit more than 2K without VAT and the later 30mm a bit less than 3K without VAT. The adaptor will be around €300 without VAT and will work only with Hasselblad LS lenses. This 30mm will be "stargazing" .
There is no plan for now on another lenses, probably 2017.
The lenses are made by the same manufacturer as the Xpan lenses, in Japan.

[JV]

Leica is always so scared of cannibalisation on their existing camera line (S and M) that they try to play smart and loose. Now they have to play catch-up again.

Besides the difference in sensor size/resolution I don't see the Hasselblad X1D having many advantages over the Leica SL but perhaps I am missing something....?

[AlterEgo]

Honestly I'm not really seeing what the mythical A9 can bring to the table beyond a larger body with better handling/controls

more mp, multishot through IS, EVF like Leica SL or even better, double card slots, compressed lossless raw, bigger battery, a lot of things to "justify" extra $$$... some small increases in AF, DR (per sensor, not per one sensel) might be as well

[siddhaarta]

MTF of the new lenses look nice.

[E.J. Peiker]

Anyone catch the image circle size on the X1D glass?  Can they shoehorn the 100mp chip into one in a year?

It doesn't look like it to me (but then it didn't look like Sony could get FF into the E-mount either when the NEX cameras were first introduced)

[MoreOrLess]

The shutter is on the H system if one need one. In the same time the XD-1 lenses are not that much expensive for LS lenses ...

The X1-D is priced €7900 without VAT. The 45mm less than 2K without VAT and the 90mm a bit more than 2K without VAT and the later 30mm a bit less than 3K without VAT. The adaptor will be around €300 without VAT and will work only with Hasselblad LS lenses. This 30mm will be "stargazing" .
There is no plan for now on another lenses, probably 2017.
The lenses are made by the same manufacturer as the Xpan lenses, in Japan.

They mentioned at the lunach they were planning a 30mm lens for Photonika I believe, that would be a biggue I'd imagine for potential landscape users.

[torger]

Hasselblad, with the lack of including an in-camera shutter, has cobbled the creative possibilities for this "game-changer" and greatly limited its user base.  Not the best financial decision IMHO.

Yes the lack of FPS is a big disappointment for frankenstein-camera-builders. However, how many of those (us) are there, really? Over the past few years I've seen the architectural/technical camera genre been constantly hammered. Copal is out, Schneider is out, sensor-lens compatibility is mediocre at best. Phase is talking about "hey, maybe you should crop and do keystoning instead". Simply put, no-one except the Alpa/Cambo/Arca/Linhof cares about this segment. They adapt as much as they can, just as photographers have to do. The A7r working out on tech cams is just a fortunate side effect.

The logical explanation to that this segment is so hugely ignored is that there's no money to make in it, so why make products for it?

Sure I'd love tech cams to be a significant market, but over the years I've become a lot more pessimistic about that. It would be interesting to have some actual statistics on where the sales go.

[E.J. Peiker]

They mentioned at the lunach they were planning a 30mm lens for Photonika I believe, that would be a biggue I'd imagine for potential landscape users.

It would definitely help landscape shooters but something a bit wider would still be welcome, something around a 21mm or so.

[Hulyss]

They mentioned at the lunach they were planning a 30mm lens for Photonika I believe, that would be a biggue I'd imagine for potential landscape users.

Yes and this lens is a little problem (in the good way) for hasselblad but I can't say more. I might say more if I'm authorized too. Well it is not clear so I won't take the risk.

[MoreOrLess]

It would definitely help landscape shooters but something a bit wider would still be welcome, something around a 21mm or so.

That's pretty wide for MF, I don't think anyone else offers wider than 24/25mm even on the Pentax 33x44mm limited system.

24mm, 30mm, 45mm and 90mm would certainly be a good start though and this does generally seem to be well aimed at the travel/landscape market.