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ErikKaffehr

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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #361 on: June 22, 2016, 09:55:18 am »

Hi,

i don't know about the availibility of FP shutters. Most customers Hasselblad addresses with the new model may not miss FPS.

This may be a first camera of a new generation.

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Several reactions:
I do consider the X1D a game changer in terms of its fundamental premise: medium format image quality (and sensor) in an exceptionally small form factor.  (The Sony A7RII is 625g; the X1D is 725g.)If you don't see that as a breakthrough, then pick up a Phase XF body with an IQ350 back and three LS lenses and take a nice long hike or walk around a city for the day. Then, do the same with the new Hasselblad 30, 45 and 90mm lenses. The XF is a great camera body, but it should have been put on a diet. So, depending upon the lens quality of the new Hasseblad lenses for the X1D, it could be a fantastic landscape/travel camera.
The X1D would have been really ground breaking 2 years ago. Now, less so. The Sony A7RII is already at 42MP, and rumors are that it will go to 72 or 75MP. The siren song of pure MP is powerful. Of course, Sony is aggressively moving away from its initial appeal to me by focusing its high end lenses on big, heavy and fast. I want light and small and can accept slower.
The X1D is the camera that the Leica SL should have been. Leica completely dropped the ball, IMO.
An obvious question is why leaf shutter lenses. Was it just so that the existing HC lenses would be compatible?Of course, you won't have to worry about shutter shock.
Why did Hasselblad not use the same type of EVF that the Leica SL uses, which is supposed to be exceptional. I can't understand that omission in a $9,000 camera body.
The X1D appears to be a beautifully designed camera body. I expect it to be a very functional design rather than being crapped up by a mind numbing menu system and controls like Japanese cameras always seem to be.
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #362 on: June 22, 2016, 09:56:07 am »

I'm really disappointed in the low resolution of the EVF.  After using the Sony a7rII and a Leica SL, there is absolutely no comparison in quality of the EVF.  A high resolution EVF on a medium format would be a game changer for me.  I just can't figure out why Hasselblad did not do this?  The technology is there.  Maybe use too much power but Leica does not have that problem with the SL.



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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #363 on: June 22, 2016, 09:58:29 am »

Perhaps in a few months, we might see an enterprising chinese manufacturer come up with a fully electronic X to EF adapter with a built in FPS.
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #364 on: June 22, 2016, 10:04:16 am »


The X1D is the camera that the Leica SL should have been. Leica completely dropped the ball, IMO.


Fully agree. Leica is always so scared of cannibalisation on their existing camera line (S and M) that they try to play smart and loose. Now they have to play catch-up again.
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #365 on: June 22, 2016, 10:06:06 am »

will there be AF when using the HC lens adapter? don't know anything about using lens adapters...
and aperture settings, i.e. automatic exposure mode by aperture or shutter pre-dialing?
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #366 on: June 22, 2016, 10:06:31 am »

he said -I believe- something like MITO. There is a Fujinon MITO corporation which is a full subsidiary of Fuji group, but that is Fuji. A Japanese Mito by itself in optical manufacturing industries seems not to exist...???

Get some hearing aids :)

http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Nittō_Kōgaku

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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #367 on: June 22, 2016, 10:09:00 am »

I do consider the X1D a game changer in terms of its fundamental premise: medium format image quality (and sensor) in an exceptionally small form factor.  (The Sony A7RII is 625g; the X1D is 725g.)

A7R2 has IBIS and FPS inside ... so as Ricoh and/or Olympus shows IBIS can do something like multi-shot... so when you consider 725g vs 625g with what 625g has I am not sure that 725g is something exceptional, even if the sensor is 1.6* times bigger than FF one ... that weight is achieved by a lot of crippling
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #368 on: June 22, 2016, 10:18:22 am »

I'm really disappointed in the low resolution of the EVF.  After using the Sony a7rII and a Leica SL, there is absolutely no comparison in quality of the EVF.  A high resolution EVF on a medium format would be a game changer for me.  I just can't figure out why Hasselblad did not do this?  The technology is there.  Maybe use too much power but Leica does not have that problem with the SL.
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it says XGA resolution with 2.36 MP. isn't that good enough? don't know much about EVF though have one of these little compacts from Fuji (X100 with only 1.44 MP on the EVF)
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #369 on: June 22, 2016, 10:21:04 am »

Get some hearing aids :)

Edmund

ok, wil do so, but first getting the X1D... ;D
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #370 on: June 22, 2016, 10:21:37 am »

Fully agree. Leica is always so scared of cannibalisation on their existing camera line (S and M) that they try to play smart and loose. Now they have to play catch-up again.

I told my Leica rep immediately after the released from the SL that Leica should have made the new S with the same style as the SL and allowed the ability to use M lenses with an adapter.

Just think about it.  Medium format sensor that you could shoot either medium format or 35mn lenses.

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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #371 on: June 22, 2016, 10:23:08 am »

Why did Hasselblad not use the same type of EVF that the Leica SL uses, which is supposed to be exceptional. I can't understand that omission in a $9,000 camera body.

My guess is the chip is quite expensive and they need to cut as many corners as possible.
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #372 on: June 22, 2016, 10:31:26 am »

My guess is the chip is quite expensive and they need to cut as many corners as possible.

Leica uses it in there $8k camera. If cost is a big deal just add another $500-1000 to the cost and I believe most would not care.


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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #373 on: June 22, 2016, 10:32:57 am »

I would really like to see a focal reducer made to adapt H lenses to this. That way you can get more of the "full frame" look and the lenses will be a bit faster. It would negate most of the negatives of the crop sensor.
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #374 on: June 22, 2016, 10:41:23 am »

I'm sick of being screwed by the Euro to GBP pricing.

The body at 7900 Euro at the current exchange rate = £6066 and yet Calumet UK are quoting £7188

Take a drive across the channel and make the purchase?
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #375 on: June 22, 2016, 10:42:27 am »

I'm worried about the EVF quality. It says 2.4 MP XGA viewfinder. That's the same resolution as Sony A7 but is it OLED?  Refresh rate?  If it's as good as Sony I'm getting it if it's as bad as Fuji x100s that's disappointing. Does anyone know what XGA IS?
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #376 on: June 22, 2016, 10:45:39 am »

I'm sick of being screwed by the Euro to GBP pricing.

The body at 7900 Euro at the current exchange rate = £6066 and yet Calumet UK are quoting £7188

nothing on Pro Centre yet, a bit surprised, also, is it possible that Calumet lists price including VAT?
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #377 on: June 22, 2016, 10:47:02 am »

I'm sick of being screwed by the Euro to GBP pricing.

The body at 7900 Euro at the current exchange rate = £6066 and yet Calumet UK are quoting £7188
that includes GBP 1198 VAT. EUR 7900 is without VAT. apples and pairs?
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #378 on: June 22, 2016, 10:50:30 am »

I'm disappointed there isn't multishot(pixel shift) option, like Pentax K3.
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Re: Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?
« Reply #379 on: June 22, 2016, 10:59:41 am »

Nikon compatible does not mean that you have to use "TTL" - it means you have some decently wide standard (Canon might be even wider) to control remote flash/strobes remotely from camera in M mode too... plus TTL for those who want/need it

I believe the lens manufacturer is Nittō Kōgaku (also known as Nittoh these days).
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Nitt%C5%8D_K%C5%8Dgaku

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