Thanks for the update on the Hartblei lenses. I think I'll wait to see if something new comes along. As far as the shifter shot is concerned, we removed the driver's side seat, played around with the angle a bit and shot it with the Mamiya 28mm at F22. The lighting is a combination of direct and diffused, it was shot with the P45. I can't see the benefit of upgrading to the P45+, although if a larger sensor were to be announced I probably would go for it. Jim