Covid Vaccine

[Dale Villeponteaux]

I had the 1st dose of the Pfizer vaccine. No side effects except some mild soreness at the injection
site and even then I had to activate my deltoid to find it.

Regards,
Dale

[Alan Klein]

That's cheaper than Viagra.

Pfizer makes Viagra and the Covid vaccine.  Some people have said Pfizer's vaccine will do for the living what their Viagra's done for the dead. 

[Alan Klein]

My wife and I are getting our first shots Friday, 2 1/2 weeks earlier than originally scheduled.  We can't wait.  I really need to get a haircut after almost a year. My wife told me she'd kill me if I put it in a ponytail. 

[Chris Calohan]

I'm pretty close to a pony tail...about two inches over my collar. I will get one 21 days after my second shot on the 5th of Feb.

[Alan Klein]

I'm pretty close to a pony tail...about two inches over my collar. I will get one 21 days after my second shot on the 5th of Feb.

How'd the first shot go?  Reactions?  What type?  What state?

[Chris Calohan]

How'd the first shot go?  Reactions?  What type?  What state?

Sore arm the next day, but nothing much after that. I am in Florida. There was no line to speak of where I went and was in and out in less than 20 minutes, 5 for the shot and a 15 min wait to ensure no major reactions.

[armand]

How'd the first shot go?  Reactions?  What type?  What state?

Beware of the side effects!!!

[Alan Klein]

Sore arm the next day, but nothing much after that. I am in Florida. There was no line to speak of where I went and was in and out in less than 20 minutes, 5 for the shot and a 15 min wait to ensure no major reactions.

That's great.  Which vaccine?  My daughter who lives in NY says they're out of vaccines already.  I think we're in the same situation here in NJ.

[Alan Klein]

Beware of the side effects!!!

Fortuantely, I believe it's real.  Also, I have big hands too. 

[jeremyrh]

What I’ve heard (sample size 1, Pfizer vaccine) is that the first jab gives you a sore arm and the second really knocks you out for 24 hours.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

What I’ve heard (sample size 1, Pfizer vaccine) is that the first jab gives you a sore arm and the second really knocks you out for 24 hours.

Seems about right.

My friend, a doctor, said this:

Not going to lie, the second shot sucked for me.  Fatigue, chills, body aches, headache.  Getting better now, but still not out of the woods.

[Chris Calohan]

I got the Moderna shot and the two people I know who've had the second dose said no issues any worse than the first..sore arm and perhaps a bit more fatigued.

[Alan Klein]

Maybe it's good there are reactions.  That tells me something is happening,  The body is fighting back manufacturing antibodies, so the vaccine is working. 

[Redcrown]

Our ditzy Republican governor in Iowa finally gave in to the CDC yesterday and opened vaccinations to 65 and older. That added +500k old people to the queue. So on-line sign-ups flooded in this morning.

In typical government idiocy, the sign-up website starts with picking a time slot first, and then proceeds thru 3 more screens of name, addr, phone, and an 18 question health survey. By the time you finish that and "submit", the time slot you picked first is gone! So you have to start over. Don't have to fill everything out again, but you do have to click thru the screens. Took me 3 tries.

And all this after the morning's news says the current vaccines may not be as effective against the new variants.

[Alan Klein]

Our ditzy Republican governor in Iowa finally gave in to the CDC yesterday and opened vaccinations to 65 and older. That added +500k old people to the queue. So on-line sign-ups flooded in this morning.

In typical government idiocy, the sign-up website starts with picking a time slot first, and then proceeds thru 3 more screens of name, addr, phone, and an 18 question health survey. By the time you finish that and "submit", the time slot you picked first is gone! So you have to start over. Don't have to fill everything out again, but you do have to click thru the screens. Took me 3 tries.

And all this after the morning's news says the current vaccines may not be as effective against the new variants.

In NJ where I live, they opened it to everyone over 16 if they have other medical issues.  So you have people 80 years old being passed over by people in their twenties when statistics show in our town that 2/3 of the deaths are people over 65.  What idiot changed the original policy to vaccinate people over 65 first.?  NJ is getting 100,000 doses a week and right now there are 4 million people eligible because of the new policy.  What dopes we have in government. So in order to increase the first-time doses, another dope changed the policy and they're making second doses on reserve into first doses.  Does anyone want to take a side bet there won't be enough second doses to cover the people who already had their first dose?

[Jeremy Roussak]

Alan, the key phrase in your post is "with other medical issues".

Your post, and Redcrown's, are also perilously close to politics. Behave.

Jeremy

[jrsforums]

Alan, the key phrase in your post is "with other medical issues".

Your post, and Redcrown's, are also perilously close to politics. Behave.

Jeremy

Possibly Redcrown could have left off the party affiliation of his governor.  However, I do not believe discussing/criticizing/disagreeing with government decisions on vaccine distribution is ‘political’....though it should be done respectfully.

The following are selected items from https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/deciding-who-should-be-

The prioritization of age is so important because people over the age of sixty-five account for about eighty per cent of the deaths. The issue that was raised at the A.C.I.P. meeting that I must say has concerned me is that there was no difference in apparent risk in the data presented by the C.D.C. between the ages of sixty-five to seventy-four and over seventy-five...that the single largest predictor of death is clearly age, and single comorbidities are lower than that.

When you get to people with comorbidities, it’s a much more difficult situation to ascertain, and how can you be sure who has high-risk conditions, and whose doctor is willing to write a note that they have high-risk conditions?

where things get stickier and, for example, when you get to things such as how to deal with essential workers versus people with comorbid conditions.

definition of an essential worker is, and they come in two speeds: those with the highest exposure to people with covid—and that’s a reasonable category—but there are also other people, such as schoolteachers, who are unlikely to be at the highest exposure rate, or at the highest risk of dying, and yet the damage that everyone accepts is destroying the socialization and education of kids

the highest priority for everybody is to prevent people from dying, and vaccines are likely to do that. The second priority is to keep hospitals open. And now the question is how do you deal with the issue of maintaining society at a functional level, as a different part of the question than the scientific matter of where do you get the most bang for your buck for preventing transmission. If you wanted to only prevent transmission, you would vaccinate high-school students and college students and let everybody else die off, which is what one of the herd-immunity proposals actually ended up looking like to me. I don’t think that’s the highest priority. I think that, if young people are going to get infected and they transmit and they don’t die, to me, that’s a lesser priority than if people get infected and die, and we can prevent that. If we’re less efficient when we get down to the lower-age groups, that’s fine.

[Alan Klein]

What I’ve heard (sample size 1, Pfizer vaccine) is that the first jab gives you a sore arm and the second really knocks you out for 24 hours.

My wife and I had our first shots - Moderna - yesterday and our shoulders are sore a little this morning.  Otherwise no other effect. Meanwhile, the second shots are in four weeks except only my wife got the email confirmation of the appointment.  Not a good sign. I'll have to follow up on Monday if you can get through to anyone.  All the places are swamped and don't answer phone calls.   

[faberryman]

In NJ where I live, they opened it to everyone over 16 if they have other medical issues.  So you have people 80 years old being passed over by people in their twenties when statistics show in our town that 2/3 of the deaths are people over 65.  What idiot changed the original policy to vaccinate people over 65 first.?  NJ is getting 100,000 doses a week and right now there are 4 million people eligible because of the new policy.  What dopes we have in government. So in order to increase the first-time doses, another dope changed the policy and they're making second doses on reserve into first doses.  Does anyone want to take a side bet there won't be enough second doses to cover the people who already had their first dose?

Despite your misanthropic attitude and constant whining, it seems you got your vaccine in pretty short order, even ahead of your 95 year old mother-in-law who is in a nursing home.

[Jeremy Roussak]

So in order to increase the first-time doses, another dope changed the policy and they're making second doses on reserve into first doses.  Does anyone want to take a side bet there won't be enough second doses to cover the people who already had their first dose?

Someone who takes a decision that you either don't understand or don't agree with (or both) isn't necessarily a "dope". Public health officials take decisions based on the good of the population, and those decisions don't always match those which might be taken for the benefit of particular individuals.

The first dose confers a substantial degree of immunity: not as good as two, but not insignificant. From a public health point of view, it at least arguably makes sense to use limited supplies to give as many first doses as possible. This is a live debate in the UK.

The BBC interviewed a woman whose mother was likely not to get her second dose for a while, wailing "but she won't be able to hug her grandchildren without it!". The reporter didn't point out that her mother's ability to hug her grandchildren might be gained, from a second dose, at the expense of the life of someone who as a result wouldn't get a first.

Jeremy