Covid Vaccine

[RSL]

Good luck, Jeremy!

[BobShaw]

Fortunately we have the luxury of being able to sit back and watch what happens with you guys.
I don't think that we have had a death from Covid in Australia for months.

[Eric Myrvaagnes]

I haven't been able to find in any of the timetables any information about exactly when all LuLa members are to be vaccinated. I would prefer a vaccine that speaks either English or American, as my Russian and Chinese are rather weak.

[armand]

You can try to Indian ones, see what happens. Apparently they make most of the world vaccines.

[Rhossydd]

I took me less than 30 sec to google and get to this: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinical-considerations.html

That document says the same as I said above.
"if two doses of different mRNA COVID-19 vaccine products are inadvertently administered, no additional doses of either product are recommended at this time"
No nothing actually bad is expected to happen, it's just an unknown.

[Ray]

Fortunately we have the luxury of being able to sit back and watch what happens with you guys.
I don't think that we have had a death from Covid in Australia for months.

Good point! We are not the 'Lucky Country' for no reason. 

As I've mentioned before, it's the deaths per capita, or per million of population, that should be compared.
Australia so far has only 35.84 Covid deaths per million, whereas Belgium has 1,748.34 Covid deaths per million. The U.K. has 1,216.36 deaths per million, and the USA 1134.99 deaths per million.

However, some countries are doing even better than Australia. New Zealand has only 5.08 deaths per million. China has 3.43 deaths per million (if you can believe their statistics), and Thailand has less than one death per million (0.96).

Here is my source:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

[jeremyrh]

I read that on the black market you can get the Oxford vaccination for £2.

Or 3 for a Pfizer.

[LesPalenik]

I read that on the black market you can get the Oxford vaccination for £2.

Or 3 for a Pfizer.

That's cheaper than Viagra.

[Jeremy Roussak]

That's cheaper than Viagra.

If you say so. I wouldn't know.

Jeremy

[LesPalenik]

If you say so. I wouldn't know.

Jeremy

I'm not taking even the baby aspirin. But I've been getting incessant online offers from B&H and some other mail order companies.

[RSL]

If you say so. I wouldn't know.

Jeremy

 

[armand]

That document says the same as I said above.
"if two doses of different mRNA COVID-19 vaccine products are inadvertently administered, no additional doses of either product are recommended at this time"
No nothing actually bad is expected to happen, it's just an unknown.

I’m not sure what you are trying to prove here. I was quite clear in my response. Also, from the same document it says they are not to be used interchangeably.

Yes, probably nothing bad will happen but you are missing the point. In medicine we don’t go along with maybe it will work when we have an alternative that we know it works. It has to be compared and validated. In this case it has to be shown that it is as good as the current vaccines, not that you will have no bad reactions.

The text mentions not to administer another dose if the second was INADVERTENTLY the other vaccine, because we don’t know what could happen yet and the first principle is “do no harm”.

[LesPalenik]

I read that on the black market you can get the Oxford vaccination for £2.

Or 3 for a Pfizer.

Some entrepreneurs are clearing substantially more with their covid vaccines.

The City of London police reported on Friday that a scammer had obtained 160 pounds from a 92-year-old woman and had jabbed her in the arm with what she described as a “dart-like implement” after he turned up unannounced at her home.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-fraud/uk-scammers-tricking-victims-into-paying-for-fake-covid-vaccines-idUSKBN29G1GS

[kers]

That's cheaper than Viagra.

ah You have read about the side effects, lasting a year or more..

[jrsforums]

ah You have read about the side effects, lasting a year or more..

Viagra?? 😀

[Eric Myrvaagnes]

Viagra?? 😀

That's an additive that some photographers, back in Wet Darkroom days, liked to add to their developer before drinking it.   

[degrub]

must have been developing Kodachrome !

[BobShaw]

Good point! We are not the 'Lucky Country' for no reason. 

As I've mentioned before, it's the deaths per capita, or per million of population, that should be compared.
Australia so far has only 35.84 Covid deaths per million, whereas Belgium has 1,748.34 Covid deaths per million. The U.K. has 1,216.36 deaths per million, and the USA 1134.99 deaths per million.

However, some countries are doing even better than Australia. New Zealand has only 5.08 deaths per million. China has 3.43 deaths per million (if you can believe their statistics), and Thailand has less than one death per million (0.96).

Here is my source:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

True, but if you took one state out of the equation our deaths would be 1/8 as many. New Zealand has the big advantage (apart from a population less than Sydney) that their PM does not have to deal with 8 dysfunctional states and territories.

[Ray]

True, but if you took one state out of the equation our deaths would be 1/8 as many. New Zealand has the big advantage (apart from a population less than Sydney) that their PM does not have to deal with 8 dysfunctional states and territories.

True! Victoria has by far the largest number of Covis-19 deaths, followed by NSW. I live in Queensland, which has a population of 5.11 million. So far there has been a total of only 6 Covid deaths in Queensland, or one per 852,000. I feel so relaxed. 

[Jeremy Roussak]

This conversation is drifting away from vaccination.

Jeremy