Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa

[TechTalk]

Jeez, Alan, all your bros have bailed.  There's nobody left here but you.  Innit lonely?

Well, Craig has been busy since the winner of the election became clear.

Clean your weapons and load the magazines...

So we have to muddle along without his eloquence.

Hey dufus, blow it out your behind...

[TechTalk]

Oh please.  Those people weren't conspiring to overthrow the government of the United States.  I don't know how many times people interrupted hearings in Congress and then were led away by Capitol Police.   It even happened during one of Obama's State of the Union speeches in Congress.  Okay, this was a little worse.

Shamelessly minimizing by comparing a comment yelled out by a congressman during a speech with what happened yesterday.

But they were basically demonstrating and got unruly.

Unruly demonstrators... how hard is it to become that blind?

They violated trespass laws, maybe assault, damage to government property, etc. but did not commit sedition.  I know you'd like to throw all republicans in jail for twenty years.  But your claims are specious.

or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof,

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

[texshooter]

Unruly demonstrators... how hard is it to become that blind?

No serious insurrection is conducted by folk dressed like that.

[LesPalenik]

Oh please.  Those people weren't conspiring to overthrow the government of the United States.  I don't know how many times people interrupted hearings in Congress and then were led away by Capitol Police.   It even happened during one of Obama's State of the Union speeches in Congress.  Okay, this was a little worse.  But they were basically demonstrating and got unruly.  They violated trespass laws, maybe assault, damage to government property, etc. but did not commit sedition.  I know you'd like to throw all republicans in jail for twenty years.  But your claims are specious.

I saw some videos showing ransacked rooms, damaged furniture and floors just littered with various items and broken glass. You wouldn't want those unruly deplorables walking into your living room.

[kers]

No.  You want to shut up all people who express beliefs different than yours. It's not up to you to decide who beliefs have standing and who don't.   By claiming someone is sociopathic and therefore everyone who supports him should be denied the right to support him is antithetical to free speech.  That's what they're doing right now in Hong Kong.  Arresting people who oppose the government.  Is that what you want Biden to do?  Continue the BS started with the Russian conspiracy claims from your side.  Haven't you done enough damage?

... express beliefs different than yours

...expresses and imposes alternative facts different from reality- and does change them when it suits, day in day out.

HongKong

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[faberryman]

It appears that the peaceful demonstration resulted in the death of a member of the Capitol Police. I guess it was his fault he died.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/capitol-police-officer-killed/index.html

[faberryman]

It appears one of the Trump supporters may have crossed the line by placing pipe bombs about the Capitol. Obviously it is the Capitol Police’s fault that he decided to do so.

https://wgntv.com/news/fbi-releases-photo-offers-50k-reward-for-suspect-who-placed-pipe-bombs-in-dc/

[faberryman]

Anybody but Alan believe this load of bullshit from the Incter-in-Chief?

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-finally-admits-defeat-a-new-administration-will-be-inaugurated-on-january-20-011501284.html

[jeremyrh]

It appears one of the Trump supporters may have crossed the line by placing pipe bombs about the Capitol. Obviously it is the Capitol Police’s fault that he decided to do so.

https://wgntv.com/news/fbi-releases-photo-offers-50k-reward-for-suspect-who-placed-pipe-bombs-in-dc/

They were clearly harmless, cos someone was wearing a funny outfit.

[faberryman]

Betsy DeVos gets no credit for her resignation. Trump had already sent out the routine memo for all his appointees to resign. Besides, she is a despicable human being.

https://www.wlwt.com/article/education-secretary-betsy-devos-resigns-after-capitol-riot/35156594

[LesPalenik]

There are many people who feel there was game playing at a minimum regarding the way the voting occurred in many battleground states.  Those people have a right to express their disgruntlement.  I didn't hear you assault those who marched in the street under the BLM banner, many who then went on to do violent acts. 

And now Trump threw the heinous mob, I mean the special people to whom he professed his love just yesterday, under the bus.

Jan 6
I know your pain. I know you’re hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election, and everyone knows it, especially the other side, but you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt. It’s a very tough period of time. There’s never been a time like this where such a thing happened, where they could take it away from all of us, from me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election, but we can’t play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You’re very special.

Jan 7
I would like to begin by addressing the heinous attack on the United States Capitol. Like all Americans, I am outraged by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem. I immediately deployed the National Guard and federal law enforcement to secure the building and expel the intruders. America is and must always be a nation of law and order. The demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defiled the seat of American democracy. To those who engaged in the acts of violence and destruction, you do not represent our country. And to those who broke the law, you will pay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG4rBlac-UE

[Jonathan Cross]

Back to Covid!  Are there lessons to be learnt from Australia?  Sky News is reporting,

Brisbane has entered a three-day lockdown after a cleaner at a quarantine hotel was diagnosed with the COVID-19 variant first identified in the UK.

Australia's third largest city - and its surrounding areas - will also see the introduction of compulsory face masks for the first time, the Queensland state government said.

There is more on the Queensland Government website

https://www.qld.gov.au/health/conditions/health-alerts/coronavirus-covid-19/current-status/greater-brisbane-lockdown

Jonathan

[William Walker]

From the Financial Times.

"Sweden’s coronavirus strategy has always stood out from the crowd. That distinctive approach is now coming to an end.

The government this week proposed an emergency law that would allow it to lock down large parts of society; the first recommended use of face masks came into force; and the authorities gave schools the option to close for pupils older than 13 — all changes to its strategy to combat the pandemic."  https://www.ft.com/content/b376ae27-4889-4f54-803d-8507de9dcb7e

I really need Joe Kitchen to get back onto this thread: I have made a lot of money betting against all of his predictions but I am running out of new material. 

[Robert Roaldi]

Some GOP Senators now regret not standing up to Trump sooner, https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/533280-republican-senators-now-regret-not-doing-more-to-contain-trump. The article wasn't meant to be funny but I couldn't help but laugh.

So, which way is the wind blowing then?

They seem to be saying that they only truly understood the problem once thugs entered their own place of work and threatened them personally. Okaaay, I guess that's credible. There must be a lot of election strategy meetings going on all over the country and at the top of each agenda is "How can we distance ourselves from Trump?" They must be praying nobody finds anything incriminating that they wrote on Facebook or Twitter.

Conduct this thought experiment with me. Imagine the granddaughter of hurricane Sally hits the New Jersey coast. TV footage shows a bunch of white guys in MAGA hats cleaning the debris out of their yards, trying to retrieve their cars, rescuing family members, all while the power is out. Then, AOC shows up and starts throwing paper towel rolls at them. Try to imagine the outcry.

[faberryman]

Couldn't happen to a nicer couple. There are consequences to one's actions. Act despicably and you are shunned.

“The Stink of His Family Is Nearly Impossible to Get Off”: Jared and Ivanka’s Final Chapter in Washington Demolished Their Future

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/jared-kushner-ivanka-trump-final-chapter-in-washington-demolished-their-future

https://www.businessinsider.com/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-washington-dc-home-moving-truck-florida-2021-1

[Robert Roaldi]

I wonder what Scott Adams is thinking.

[faberryman]

Poor Mike Pence. He wants to be some kind of hero for doing his job and following the law. The reason he is angry is that now his political career is over. He should have thought about that four years ago. Sucking Trump's dick day in and day out has consequences.

"But Sen. Jim Inhofe told the Tulsa World on Wednesday that he’s “never seen Pence as angry as he was today.”

"The Oklahoma Republican told USA TODAY he talked to Pence about Trump's rebuke. Pence, he said, was “very upset” with Trump."

An 'angry' Pence navigates the fallout of his rupture with Trump over election, Capitol riots

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/01/08/pences-break-trump-comes-amid-25th-amendment-talk-capitol-riots/6582212002/

[faberryman]

Reap what ye shall sow.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/07/trump-staffers-next-job-456315

[faberryman]

The lying continues from Kayleigh “Pants on Fire” McEnany as she quickly reads from her binder and then literally runs away. Keep running Kayleigh.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kayleigh-mcenany-runs-from-podium-after-denying-responsibility-for-capitol-riot

[LesPalenik]

Poor Mike Pence. He wants to be some kind of fucking hero for doing his job and following the law. The reason he is angry is that now his political career is over. He should have thought about that four years ago. Sucking Trump's dick day in and day out has consequences.

"But Sen. Jim Inhofe told the Tulsa World on Wednesday that he’s “never seen Pence as angry as he was today.”

"The Oklahoma Republican told USA TODAY he talked to Pence about Trump's rebuke. Pence, he said, was “very upset” with Trump."

An 'angry' Pence navigates the fallout of his rupture with Trump over election, Capitol riots

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/01/08/pences-break-trump-comes-amid-25th-amendment-talk-capitol-riots/6582212002/

Now Pence can start writing his book about serving Trump. A bestseller for sure.