Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa

[TechTalk]

trying to undermine him for five years with fake charges.

That you choose to believe and parrot a false narrative from a self-absorbed liar and con man—who deceived you and others just to prop up his ego and spread doubt about the institutions that protect our national security from foreign adversaries—is yours to either rationalize or confront.

His success is America's success.

Not when he has succeeded in undermining: democracy; the Constitution on which our democracy is based; the courts; and the rule of law. Not when he has succeeded in enflaming the passions of division. It's everything that the founders feared and tried to prevent in balancing power to avoid the kind of authoritarian cult of personality that Trump purposely built.

[faberryman]

Perhaps someone has made an error in judgment.

Denmark launches children's TV show about man with giant penis

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/06/john-dillermand-denmark-launches-childrens-tv-show-man-giant-penis

"John Dillermand has an extraordinary penis. So extraordinary, in fact, that it can perform rescue operations, etch murals, hoist a flag and even steal ice-cream from children."

[Robert Roaldi]

That you choose to believe and parrot a false narrative from a self-absorbed liar and con man—who deceived you and others just to prop up his ego and spread doubt about the institutions that protect our national security from foreign adversaries—is yours to either rationalize or confront.


Not when he has succeeded in undermining: democracy; the Constitution on which our democracy is based; the courts; and the rule of law. Not when he has succeeded in enflaming the passions of division. It's everything that the founders feared and tried to prevent in balancing power to avoid the kind of authoritarian cult of personality that Trump purposely built.

I saw this report (lost the link, sorry)

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At 4 PM EST, President-elect Joe Biden issued a statement in which he said: “This is not protest. It is insurrection.” He called on Trump to go on national television and end this attempted overthrow of the nation.

Fifteen minutes later, Trump issued a statement to the terrorists saying: “I love you. You’re very special. I know how you feel.” In the video, Trump continued to insist that the election was stolen and he won in a landslide.

Trump did say for terrorists to “go home in peace.” That’s one hell of a lot different from “prosecuted the fullest extent of the law.”
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So Trump says to people storming the capitol that he loves them and that they're special. Shouldn't he be in handcuffs?

[Robert Roaldi]

Perhaps someone has made an error in judgment.

Denmark launches children's TV show about man with giant penis

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/06/john-dillermand-denmark-launches-childrens-tv-show-man-giant-penis

"John Dillermand has an extraordinary penis. So extraordinary, in fact, that it can perform rescue operations, etch murals, hoist a flag and even steal ice-cream from children."

Whoah, I didn't see that coming. Weird day, all around.

[TechTalk]

Trump voters, and I'm one, know it's over and have moved on.  Trump's just doing what he usually does to stay in the news and pull people's chains.

Those words might come back to haunt you. 

[faberryman]

Trump's response to the day's events

"These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!"

I guess it was a Kodak moment.

[faberryman]

The woman who was shot in the Capitol today has died. I have not seen any details on the shooting.

[Frans Waterlander]

The woman who was shot in the Capitol today has died. I have not seen any details on the shooting.

, but throw it out there anyway. What's your point?

[faberryman]

, but throw it out there anyway. What's your point?

Wow, are you ever touchy. What is the explanation for you defensiveness?

My point is that a woman was shot and killed in the U.S. Capitol today. It doesn't happen every day and is therefore newsworthy.

[Frans Waterlander]

That a woman was shot and killed in the U.S. Capitol today.

Again, what's your point if you don't offer any context?

[MattBurt]

Again, what's your point if you don't offer any context?

If I were making the point it would be that this is no longer a protest, it's a violent act of insurrection by a riotous mob of thugs that has real consequences.
This death is directly connected to the president's encouragement of this mob. 

[Peter McLennan]

That a woman was shot and killed in the U.S. Capitol today.

She was shot and killed during an insurrection of the Federal Capitol by Trump supporters who without evidence insist on believing his unrelenting lies.

THAT is the point and THAT is the context, Frans.

[Frans Waterlander]

During an insurrection of the Federal Capitol by Trump supporters who without evidence insist on believing his unrelenting lies.

THAT is the point and THAT is the context, Frans.

That's not context, that's assertions and jumping to conclusions. Who was this woman, what did she do, who was the attacker(s), what was the attacker(s) doing? Don't jump to conclusions if you don't have or don't tell all context that's crucial to forming a balanced opinion. But then again, this thread is full of baloney so nothing new here.

[faberryman]

Again, what's your point if you don't offer any context?

Here is a link to an article which may provide the kind of background information you are looking for.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/us-capitol-lockdown/index.html

[Peter McLennan]

That's not context, that's assertions and jumping to conclusions. Who was this woman, what did she do, who was the attacker(s), what was the attacker(s) doing? Don't jump to conclusions if you don't have or don't tell all context that's crucial to forming a balanced opinion. But then again, this thread is full of baloney so nothing new here.

If it's eventually proven that her death was directly associated with today's insurrection at the Capitol, will you apologize to the forum?

I promise you this: if the reverse is true, that her death had absolutely nothing to do with today's events at the Capitol, I will.

[kers]

The guards at the Capitol handled it very well. The amount of casualties is low, could have been much worse.
In a late video Trump asked his supporters  to restrain from violence, but mostly repeated his claim that the election is stolen and that he won by a landslide.
This man is dangerously mad and seriously undermining the trust in US democratic values. But some of us already knew that.
Hopefully he is that extreme that many of his less loyal supporters will turn away from him. I think we can already see that in the Georgian senate runoff.

[Frans Waterlander]

Here is a link to an article which may provide the kind of background information you are looking for.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/us-capitol-lockdown/index.html

The article says among other things: "More information on the shooting was not immediately available and a police spokesperson said additional details will come later." But jump to conclusions anyway, right?

[Frans Waterlander]

If it's eventually proven that her death was directly associated with today's insurrection at the Capitol, will you apologize to the forum?

I promise you this: if the reverse is true, that her death had absolutely nothing to do with today's events at the Capitol, I will.

Apologize for what? Cautioning against jumping to conclusions?

[faberryman]

The article says among other things: "More information on the shooting was not immediately available and a police spokesperson said additional details will come later." But jump to conclusions anyway, right?

I don't believe I have reached or expressed any conclusions, much less jumped to them.

[Frans Waterlander]

I don't believe I have reached or expressed any conclusions, much less jumped to them.

If so, why post your comment in the first place?