Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa

[Alan Klein]

Is that bribing or telling voters what could be at stake?
I would think a bribe is receiving something in exchange for a vote. This is more like informing the voters that if the dems win, things could get better for people who need that assistance.

Was Trump's promise to build that wall and make Mexico pay for it a bribe?

Or his promises to cut taxes?

I don't think so.

Unfortunately, Republicans have gotten as bad as Democrats.  Looking for votes by offering more government giveaways, although legal, is killing our dollar.  The only way to pay for these things is to print more money because they won't increase taxes and lose those same votes.  It's an incestuous relationship between politicians and the public and will doom us all.

[faberryman]

The UK was and is a principal partner in the design, development, and manufacture of the F-35. British design and manufacture are found throughout the aircraft and its systems. A particularly large player in F-35 design and manufacture is the huge international British defense manufacturer BAE Systems which has over 35,000 of its 88,000+ employees in the United States. BAE Systems supplies, among other things, the F-35 electronic warfare suite and flight control systems.

I mentioned before that I was in Canada when Neil Armstrong landed on the moon. As we were watching it unfold on TV, the Canadians were talking about how they had developed an important component of the lunar lander or whatever, and the Americans were poo-pooing their involvement, and back and forth. I guess it was all excusable because the oldest person in the room was 14.

[Alan Klein]

Another blatantly false assertion in an ongoing series too long to list.

The FBI illegally used Democrat Hillary Clinton's phony dossier as bogus "evidence" to get the FISA court to okay surveillance of Trump and his campaign.  That led to the phony two-year Mueller investigation etc.  When that didn't work, the Democrats impeached him.  While not an illegal act, it was a BS act politically driven. 

[BernardLanguillier]

Maybe you'd like to execute us so you don't have to democratically deal with the opposition.

No, I’d like to understand if you understand and acknowledge what you did.

Cheers,
Bernard

[TechTalk]

The FBI illegally used Democrat Hillary Clinton's phony dossier as bogus "evidence" to get the FISA court to okay surveillance of Trump and his campaign.  That led to the phony two-year Mueller investigation etc.  When that didn't work, the Democrats impeached him.  While not an illegal act, it was a BS act politically driven.

You parrot repetitiously the same collection of false or misleading talking points in support of a misplaced blind faith in an ideology with little to no interest in facts.

[Frans Waterlander]

You parrot repetitiously the same collection of false or misleading talking points in support of a misplaced blind faith in an ideology with little to no interest in facts.

False and misleading? Are you nuts? Can you read statements of fact? Get real! As if we needed any more examples, but this is a clear example of why it is totally useless to try to talk with so-called progressives.

[faberryman]

False and misleading? Are you nuts? Can you read statements of fact? Get real! As if we needed any more examples, but this is a clear example of why it is totally useless to try to talk with so-called progressives.

Have you read the FISA application in question, and the IG Report concerning such FISA application? You referred to "statements of fact." What is your source for such "statements of fact"?

[TechTalk]

False and misleading? Are you nuts? Can you read statements of fact? Get real! As if we needed any more examples, but this is a clear example of why it is totally useless to try to talk with so-called progressives.

It is an utterly and completely false and misleading narrative designed to distract and mislead from the actual chain of events. The only purpose is to keep Trump and his supporters shielded from the facts with an easily repeatable set of half-truths combined with complete lies.

The full story—which is complex and parts still classified—doesn't remotely resemble the Trump bumper sticker narrative endlessly parroted by his faithful. Willfully blind acceptance is a prerequisite to the deeply flawed faith in Trump alternate reality narratives.

[Alan Klein]

No, I’d like to understand if you understand and acknowledge what you did.

Cheers,
Bernard

You're dangerous.

[TechTalk]

Blindly believing lies that undermine democracy and the rule of law and then repeating and spreading them is dangerous.

[Alan Klein]

It is an utterly and completely false and misleading narrative designed to distract and mislead from the actual chain of events. The only purpose is to keep Trump and his supporters shielded from the facts with an easily repeatable set of half-truths combined with complete lies.

The full story—which is complex and parts still classified—doesn't remotely resemble the Trump bumper sticker narrative endlessly parroted by his faithful. Willfully blind acceptance is a prerequisite to the deeply flawed faith in Trump alternate reality narratives.

The full story is that the Obama administration was in on using the secret police forces of the USA that reported to him against a political opponent.  And it continued for five years. It was a disgrace.

[faberryman]

You're dangerous.

How so?

[TechTalk]

The full story is that the Obama administration was in on using the secret police forces of the USA that reported to him against a political opponent.  And it continued for five years. It was a disgrace.

The disgrace is in your blind faith in false narratives.

[faberryman]

The full story is that the Obama administration was in on using the secret police forces of the USA that reported to him against a political opponent.  And it continued for five years. It was a disgrace.

Tell me about these "secret police forces". I thought the FBI was doing the investigation. And they reported to Obama for five years? Are you sure?

[TechTalk]

Today's example of the dangerous nature of Trump's lies and false narratives that are blindly accepted by his supporters.

Trump tweet today...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/thousands of people pouring into D.C.

I hope the Democrats, and even more importantly, the weak and ineffective RINO section of the Republican Party, are looking at the thousands of people pouring into D.C. They won’t stand for a landslide election victory to be stolen.

Trump supporters chanting "Victory or Death" at MAGA rally today in Washington D.C.

https://twitter.com/acnewsitics/"Victory or Death" Chant at MAGA Rally

[TechTalk]

Photo of sign language interpreter at Georgia press conference explaining the difference between Trump's false claims and the facts.

This may be sign language for: Trump supporters believe this!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Photo Georgia Sign Language Interpreter

[LesPalenik]

Trump supporters chanting "Victory or Death" at MAGA rally today in Washington D.C.
https://twitter.com/acnewsitics/"Victory or Death" Chant at MAGA Rally

That's really deplorable.

[faberryman]

And, on the lighter side, how will anyone cope with this:

Kim Kardashian and Kanye West are getting a divorce: ‘She’s done’

https://pagesix.com/2021/01/05/kim-kardashian-kanye-west-getting-a-divorce-shes-done/

[Robert Roaldi]

Today's example of the dangerous nature of Trump's lies and false narratives that are blindly accepted by his supporters.

Trump tweet today...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/thousands of people pouring into D.C.

I hope the Democrats, and even more importantly, the weak and ineffective RINO section of the Republican Party, are looking at the thousands of people pouring into D.C. They won’t stand for a landslide election victory to be stolen.

Trump supporters chanting "Victory or Death" at MAGA rally today in Washington D.C.

https://twitter.com/acnewsitics/"Victory or Death" Chant at MAGA Rally

Victory or death? Are they bonkers? It's just an election, there will another one in 4 years. Relax.

[John Camp]

Victory or death? Are they bonkers? It's just an election, there will another one in 4 years. Relax.

Yeah, but...they're bonkers. We already knew that.