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faberryman

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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #1220 on: November 13, 2020, 11:07:51 am »

The grifters at the Lincoln Project, who claim to still be republicans yet have worked to try and get every republican to lose their election this year, did a $50K ad campaign against that law firm specifically. 

Not against the case or the merits of the process, but actually against the firm. 

Thankfully these neo-con war mongering loser friends of Cheney are now banished from a republican party that no longer supports their endless wars and other bull shit.

Free speech is a bitch sometimes, isn't it.
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« Reply #1221 on: November 13, 2020, 11:11:27 am »

Free speech is a bitch sometimes, isn't it.

Yes it is. 
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« Reply #1222 on: November 13, 2020, 11:13:28 am »

So it's in your imagination, you don't have actual quotes with what I said that I want. As before.

He admitted he lied and there were multiple people (from both isles) selling their stocks after they found out about how bad it's going to be, while the public was told that "it will just go away".


What democrats did many months later doesn't excuse anything from what he, as a president, did.

See attachment. It was only half a year ago when I replied to you on the same subject (of masks), imagine how much stuff came out since. But as usual, it's wasted time with you. You don't care about facts but how to politicize everything so the Republicans look good.

I'm out.


PS. When you keep misspelling my name it just shows your intellectual level

As I said before, Armind, I dont care about opinion pieces, I want to see real data proving they work.  I have not yet, nothing. 

And as soon as you stop with the conspiracy theory non-sense on stock sales, I'll start taking you seriously again btw. 
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faberryman

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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #1223 on: November 13, 2020, 11:16:19 am »

Here's something else Trump grew bored with. He claimed it was an urgent matter of national security. Now it is a big yawner.

TikTok won't be forced to shut down for now, Commerce Department rules

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/tiktok-won-t-be-forced-shut-down-now-commerce-department-n1247629
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« Reply #1224 on: November 13, 2020, 11:19:31 am »

Biden has just as many warts he's just not called on them.  Most if not every politicain is a liar and a cheat.  Its part and parcel of the breed IMO.

Not even your oft-repeated and lame whataboutism can account for, let alone excuse Trump's behaviour.
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« Reply #1225 on: November 13, 2020, 11:20:31 am »

Meanwhile, most Americans have better things to worry about than Trump's election litigation.

'Grey's Anatomy' fans stunned by Patrick Dempsey's return in Season 17 premiere: 'I cried so much'

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/greys-anatomy-patrick-dempsey-return-season-17-premiere-fans-shock

Me, I am watching coverage of the Masters.
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« Reply #1226 on: November 13, 2020, 11:22:24 am »

Maybe next he'll speak about his concerns about the lack of liberty auto restrictions: having to stop at red lights, RR crossings, stop signs, speed limits on so many roads and highways, seatbelt laws, having to have auto insurance. Don't get him started on regulations for auto's for safety!
We Americans should be able to drive any way we desire right Alan? Give my Liberty or give me death (but don't give me common sense)?
Driving isn't a constitutionally protected right. Freedom of speech, assembly, and the right to practice one's religion are. His point is that while government officials can enact policies that protect the public's health, they have to be careful not to forget that people's liberties have to be protected as well. We don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water.

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« Reply #1227 on: November 13, 2020, 11:23:43 am »

Fact and data deniers demands facts and data to ignore. More pages of rubbish to follow...
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« Reply #1228 on: November 13, 2020, 11:30:15 am »

As I said before, Armind, I dont care about opinion pieces, I want to see real data proving they work.  I have not yet, nothing. 

And as soon as you stop with the conspiracy theory non-sense on stock sales, I'll start taking you seriously again btw.

The data was there but you never looked.

I asked you to stop misspelling my name but it's obvious you are emulating you master puppet and do it on purpose. Moron until the end. On my ignore list now, don't bother replying..

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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #1229 on: November 13, 2020, 11:37:57 am »

Supreme Court Justice Alito spoke on his concerns about liberty and Covid restrictions:

Sounds like he would have been in the minority in the snake handlers cases.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #1230 on: November 13, 2020, 11:40:32 am »


Renewables are not cheaper!  You have to be a fool to believe this.  They just are not!
Forbes disagrees with you. The pendulum continues to swing towards renewables. Note that this article is two years old. 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/energyinnovation/2018/12/03/plunging-prices-mean-building-new-renewable-energy-is-cheaper-than-running-existing-coal/?sh=42d4269f31f3

There are many articles that state the same facts. Solar is cheaper than coal - cheaper to build and WAY cheaper to run. Natural gas will be the next to fall.

How much do you pay per kWh for your electricity?
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« Reply #1231 on: November 13, 2020, 11:41:20 am »

Sounds like he would have been in the minority in the snake handlers cases.
Cheap shot.  You didn't address my point.

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« Reply #1232 on: November 13, 2020, 11:43:29 am »

We don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Do you have to include these trite little aphorisms in every other post? You sound like Andy Griffith's Aunt Bee.
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« Reply #1233 on: November 13, 2020, 11:46:06 am »

Cheap shot.  You didn't address my point.

I have no idea why you think my post was a cheap shot. It is a waste of time addressing your so-called "points". They aren't based on facts.
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« Reply #1234 on: November 13, 2020, 11:54:34 am »

Forbes disagrees with you. The pendulum continues to swing towards renewables. Note that this article is two years old. 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/energyinnovation/2018/12/03/plunging-prices-mean-building-new-renewable-energy-is-cheaper-than-running-existing-coal/?sh=42d4269f31f3

There are many articles that state the same facts. Solar is cheaper than coal - cheaper to build and WAY cheaper to run. Natural gas will be the next to fall.

How much do you pay per kWh for your electricity?

The rest of your post does little to refute my arguments, so I've ignored it.
Green energy is not free because you have to have fossil fuel generator backup.  Germans are practically rioting over their electricity costs even though a lot of their energy is green.  They pay 2 1/2 times the cost for electricity then Americans do.  Since you love to mention Forbes to prove your point, here's a Forbes article disproving your point.   

...German consumers have paid dearly for the energy transition. German electricity prices are 45% above the European average, McKinsey reports. Green taxes account for 54% of household electricity prices.

...But McKinsey issues its strongest warning when it comes to Germany's increasingly insecure energy supply due to its heavy reliance on intermittent solar and wind. For three days in June 2019, the electricity grid came close to black-outs.

"Only short-term imports from neighboring countries were able to stabilize the grid," the consultancy notes.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/09/05/renewables-threaten-german-economy-energy-supply-mckinsey-warns-in-new-report/?sh=51e1cbde8e48

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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #1235 on: November 13, 2020, 11:55:18 am »

Driving isn't a constitutionally protected right. Freedom of speech, assembly, and the right to practice one's religion are. His point is that while government officials can enact policies that protect the public's health, they have to be careful not to forget that people's liberties have to be protected as well. We don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water.
More examples of the lack of posting without thinking.
Driving is not a constitutional right indeed as when it was written, Trump had not yet invented the auto. We still have laws and mandates.
Next, do tell us IF you can what constitutional rights that you point out have been restricted due to Covid. Protesters on both sides still protest and have the right to free speech. Some wear masks when doing so and some don't.
We might have to throw a lot of dead babies and bodies out with the bathwater if we don't get a much better handle on this virus. And constitutional rights do the dead little good.
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« Reply #1236 on: November 13, 2020, 11:57:50 am »

How much do you pay per kWh for your electricity?

I have no idea. It's not like I can do anything about it. There is only one electricity provider. Like water and gas. Many years ago the electric company offered a green deal where you could pay extra and they would buy green energy. Turns out it was a scam. All the electricity was fungible.
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« Reply #1237 on: November 13, 2020, 12:02:30 pm »

I pay nothing per kWh for electricity and in fact get a check for electricity I generate and send back to the grid. Since 2012. My home is 100% electric (no gas). Helps to have a HERS index of 46.
And no Trump and Alan, it all works at night, no generator required. 😜
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« Reply #1238 on: November 13, 2020, 12:10:47 pm »

More examples of the lack of posting without thinking.
Driving is not a constitutional right indeed as when it was written, Trump had not yet invented the auto. We still have laws and mandates.
Next, do tell us IF you can what constitutional rights that you point out have been restricted due to Covid. Protesters on both sides still protest and have the right to free speech. Some wear masks when doing so and some don't.
We might have to throw a lot of dead babies and bodies out with the bathwater if we don't get a much better handle on this virus. And constitutional rights do the dead little good.
Another example of posting without reading the article.  Address Justice Alito's points, not mine.

No constitutional protection of driving allow vast restrictions to be imposed on the rights of drivers.  Not so with speech, assembly and religion.  Laws must be very modest, balanced on other needs of the public but without infringing on their basic rights.  For example, houses of worship must follow local building codes for safety and fire prevention. Those do not basically infringe on the right to practice your religion.

Alito's main point is that he sees extensive and long term restrictions on these rights in a noble effort to prevent the spread of Covid.  He's cautioning us that we have to find the right balance in this approach and don't forget needs and rights other than health.  I think he makes a reasonable argument.

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« Reply #1239 on: November 13, 2020, 12:17:24 pm »

Do you have to include these trite little aphorisms in every other post? You sound like Andy Griffith's Aunt Bee.
It's to befuddle non-Americans as they busily Google these American sayings.("Now what did Alan mean by that.")  Actually, I think I'm doing a service as their understanding of idiomatic English grows, well American English not that other English we can't understand.  :)
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