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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #460 on: November 08, 2020, 03:37:18 am »

The economy is doing pretty well considering. Better than many other countries including Canada at least for the second quarter.  I've not seen a third quarter comparison.

Riots can be stopped if there is a will and there is no will in the cities and states where they are happening.

Yes the virus is still with us and we have lots of cases.  Its still a virus that has an around a 99 percentage recovery rate overall. 

Just wait.  Lockdowns are coming and thats not a good thing for America.  Heck they are talking aboutt wanting people to wear masks at home.  That's going to be a sure winner from the Biden camp.

I love America, warts and all, and its the warts that makes us special.  President come and go, policy changes and often it changes back again.  Hopefully we survive Biden.  We had an amazing run under Trump.  I think Biden will destroy it all.  Can you say Great Reset?

Such an amazing run under Trump...
- 240,000 people dead, at least half of them the direct consequence of Trump’s approach to the pandemic
- an economic situation far worse that it could have had things been managed competently
- a country more divided than it ever was
- a Presidential function and institutions more devalued than ever before
- alliances at their worst ever
- relationship with the worst tyrans on earth at their best ever
- the concept of truth itself attacked to the core
- ...

Impressive really.

Perhaps things were good for you. But you are at least making it very clear that age hasn’t brought wisdom to you. The wisdom to think about what’s good for your grand children and for other children around.

Cheers,
Bernard

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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #461 on: November 08, 2020, 06:29:48 am »

You are very fortunate in your situation. There are many seniors in Canada, both male and female, living on a basic CPP and Old Age pension, able to afford only a room or a crummy basement apartment, or living with a relative, and no car. Typically they don't have a supplementary health insurance and if they fall ill, and need a paid physiotherapist at $100/hr, that's often out of their reach.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/retirement-savings-broadbent-institute-1.3450084

Les,

Thanks for bringing a dose of reality into this otherwise jubilant exuberance.

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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #462 on: November 08, 2020, 06:33:33 am »

I think only Saddam Hussein had a better turnout, plus 99% votes for him:

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« Reply #463 on: November 08, 2020, 08:10:30 am »

Surely this is exactly the problem that needs to be avoided.  Trump destroyed himself, at least Biden will attempt to speak for all Americans.

The left and the media did its best to destroy Trump and his supporters and I hope we become the resistance now. 
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« Reply #464 on: November 08, 2020, 08:21:30 am »

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Surely this is exactly the problem that needs to be avoided.  Trump destroyed himself, at least Biden will attempt to speak for all Americans.

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The left and the media did its best to destroy Trump and his supporters and I hope we become the resistance now.

There is some truth in both statements. Indeed, the left, middle and the media did its best to destroy Trump, and he also contributed to his demise himself. As to forming a resistance now, that would be very unfortunate and ill-advised.
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« Reply #465 on: November 08, 2020, 08:21:43 am »

Les,

Thanks for bringing a dose of reality into this otherwise jubilant exuberance.

The Canadian Old Age Security and employee-contributed CPP were NEVER intended to be full sole support for people in retirement. They were not introduced that way and have never been promoted that way. All the wording in the legislation and on current web sites and anywhere you care to look including financial advisors, etc., stress that for a comfortable retirement people should seek ways to set aside their own funds for their old age. The OAS and CPP were meant from the start to be a system of last resort so that the most destitute have some chance of living out their lives at some minimum level. It happens that today in expensive urban areas, people living on only those pensions are going to have a very hard time of it, mainly because of high rents. My mother-in-law managed to live on her pensions and her husband's death benefits fairly well in a small town in the Maritimes. She managed to actually save some money out of her modest pension income. Had she lived in Toronto, that would be impossible. I don't know why these systems are characterized as cradle-to-grave government nanny state domination over people's lives, they have NEVER been that, but myths are hard to dislodge. It reminds me of the way that Canadian Health is characterized by some, including on these forums. It always makes me think that some lobby group is at work trying to sell something to someone. Don't fall for the propaganda, do your own research, as they say.
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« Reply #466 on: November 08, 2020, 08:43:53 am »

The fact is that there is a great disparity in the living standard of Canadian seniors. Retired policemen, firemen and teachers have rather generous pensions whereas some other occupations and self-employed contractors or many ex-business operators have limited pensions or retirement savings. Add to it unfortunate incidents such as divorce or two, or a serious illness, and those circumstances can wipe out any savings. As Robert mentioned, rents in the cities are very high ($2,000 average rent for 1 bdrm apt in Toronto) and often more expensive than an average senior pension.  I know several people in their seventies who are forced to work to supplement their pensions.   
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« Reply #467 on: November 08, 2020, 08:47:41 am »

There is some truth in both statements. Indeed, the left, middle and the media did its best to destroy Trump, and he also contributed to his demise himself. As to forming a resistance now, that would be very unfortunate and ill-advised.

They didn't just try and destroy Trump, they tried to destroy his supporters as well.  It continues still today.

Why would resistance be ill advised?  The Biden, or shall we say the Left agenda runs counter to many of the things people on the right hold dear.  Why should we not resist?  The left just spend 4 years fighting the right and now you think we should just surrender? 
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« Reply #468 on: November 08, 2020, 08:58:03 am »

The fact is that there is a great disparity in the living standard of Canadian seniors. Retired policemen, firemen and teachers have rather generous pensions whereas some other occupations and self-employed contractors or many ex-business operators have limited pensions or retirement savings. Add to it unfortunate incidents such as divorce or two, or a serious illness, and those circumstances can wipe out any savings. As Robert mentioned, rents in the cities are very high ($2,000 average rent for 1 bdrm apt in Toronto) and often more expensive than an average senior pension.  I know several people in their seventies who are forced to work to supplement their pensions.

That's exactly right, I know several people in that same boat. Those fortunate enough to have worked in professions that had set up good retirement plans for them didn't have to worry about doing all that planning themselves. Others have no choice but to do it themselves. We are responsible for our own financial lives. It is awful and sometimes tragic how little education we receive about these things in our early working lives. We should have these things drummed into our heads that very first week on our first job. I didn't seriously start thinking about setting funds aside till I was in my early 1940s, and I got a bit lucky. There are a lot of resources at people's disposal, and even more so today online, but they require that people actively seek them out.

Life's assaults like bad divorces or other bad luck can be devastating. I hate to think what life will be like for today's so-called gig-economy "employee/contractors" as they age without stability. And we did all this to ourselves, eyes wide open.

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« Reply #469 on: November 08, 2020, 09:10:28 am »

The fact is that there is a great disparity in the living standard of Canadian seniors. Retired policemen, firemen and teachers have rather generous pensions whereas some other occupations and self-employed contractors or many ex-business operators have limited pensions or retirement savings. Add to it unfortunate incidents such as divorce or two, or a serious illness, and those circumstances can wipe out any savings. As Robert mentioned, rents in the cities are very high ($2,000 average rent for 1 bdrm apt in Toronto) and often more expensive than an average senior pension.  I know several people in their seventies who are forced to work to supplement their pensions.

No one is forcing people to retire in Toronto or Vancouver where the cost of living is very high. There are many other places in Canada where rents are much more affordable and if one's income cannot support a $2,000 / month rent, they need to move to a place they can afford. I live in a beautiful part of the country where vacationers flock to and there are 1 bedroom apartments available for $600 / month.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #470 on: November 08, 2020, 09:11:05 am »

Well, that's one venue where he can still cheat.
Indeed, he's know for cheating at golf too:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/golf.com/lifestyle/celebrities/how-why-president-trump-cheats-golf-playing-tiger-woods/amp/

Trump doesn’t just cheat at golf. He cheats like a three-card Monte dealer. He throws it, boots it, and moves it. He lies about his lies. He fudges and foozles and fluffs. At Winged Foot, where Trump is a member, the caddies got so used to seeing him kick his ball back onto the fairway they came up with a nickname for him: “Pele.”

Another example of his ”Leadership” skills where his sycophants can't connect the factual dots. They will tell us ”we don't care” as long as we get tax cuts and our 401s are good.
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« Reply #471 on: November 08, 2020, 09:39:18 am »

I think only Saddam Hussein had a better turnout, plus 99% votes for him:

I don’t think you/owner of that drawing knows what impossibility means. It also conveniently forgets that practically half of those “impossible” numbers were made up of Trump voters, or just the Biden’s votes were “impossible”?
 I know though that you know that. This is just sore loser attitude dripping down from the top. But don’t worry, there are 3 more months for Trump to prove its worth through the worst phase of the pandemic. Unfortunately probably the focus will be on not accepting the results instead of actual leadership.

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« Reply #472 on: November 08, 2020, 10:21:05 am »

Indeed, he's know for cheating at golf too:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/golf.com/lifestyle/celebrities/how-why-president-trump-cheats-golf-playing-tiger-woods/amp/

"To say “Donald Trump cheats” is like saying “Michael Phelps swims.”"

So, I have been searching the web for an explanation of why Rudy Giuliani held a press conference on Trump's upcoming legal maneuvers at a landscaping business in an industrial section of Philadelphia, with a porn store on one side and a cremation center on the other, and have come up empty handed. I guess not even Trump can come up with a lie big enough to explain it, and that's saying something.

Trump tweeted this yesterday afternoon, following the networks calling the election for Biden:

"I WON THIS ELECTION, BY A LOT!"

We'll just have to see what happens Monday morning when Team Trump starts filing more lawsuits.
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« Reply #473 on: November 08, 2020, 10:44:33 am »

Way to go, boys, way to go!

Is it possible that the Trump/Giuliani stand up comedy routine manage to book the Four Seasons for their grand finale electoral fraud presser and it turns out be the Four Seasons Total Landscaping parking lot,  between a dildo store and a crematorium ?  You couldn't make it up.


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« Reply #474 on: November 08, 2020, 10:56:25 am »

No one is forcing people to retire in Toronto or Vancouver where the cost of living is very high. There are many other places in Canada where rents are much more affordable and if one's income cannot support a $2,000 / month rent, they need to move to a place they can afford. I live in a beautiful part of the country where vacationers flock to and there are 1 bedroom apartments available for $600 / month.

Where is it? Kelowna or Vancouver island?
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« Reply #475 on: November 08, 2020, 11:06:55 am »

Where is it? Kelowna or Vancouver island?

Salmon Arm.
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« Reply #476 on: November 08, 2020, 11:15:54 am »

A flawless explanation of Trump's plans moving ahead.
And how well you can depend on his word (on Golf and other stuff)  ;) .
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« Reply #477 on: November 08, 2020, 11:21:12 am »

A flawless explanation of Trump's plans moving ahead.
And how well you can depend on his word (on Golf and other stuff)  ;) .

He continues to live rent free in your head.....
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« Reply #478 on: November 08, 2020, 11:21:25 am »

Salmon Arm seems like a nice place to retire. Maybe also safe from the virus.
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« Reply #479 on: November 08, 2020, 11:24:42 am »

Way to go, boys, way to go!

Is it possible that the Trump/Giuliani stand up comedy routine manage to book the Four Seasons for their grand finale electoral fraud presser and it turns out be the Four Seasons Total Landscaping parking lot,  between a dildo store and a crematorium ?  You couldn't make it up.



I can't imagine there are a lot of places in that city willing to allow the Trump team to host a presser saying the city cheated in the election. 
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