Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa

[Alan Klein]

Go argue with the newscaster who reported the news on TV.  I'm only repeating their statement. 

[jeremyrh]

It's not nice to call people liars.

It's not nice to tell lies

WILMINGTON, Del. (Reuters) SEPTEMBER 16, 2020 6:13 AM- Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden on Wednesday rejected President Donald Trump’s charge that he is spreading fear about the safety of a potential coronavirus vaccine, urging Trump to defer to scientists and not rush its rollout.

“Let me be clear: I trust vaccines, I trust scientists, but I don’t trust Donald Trump,” Biden said. “At this moment, the American people can’t either.”

Biden warned against trying to rush out an unfinished vaccine ahead of the Nov. 3 election.

Trump, who has accused Biden and his campaign of stoking doubt among Americans about the efficacy of a vaccine, told reporters at the White House later that Biden should stop promoting “anti-vaccine theories.”

“They’re recklessly endangering lives. You can’t do that,” said Trump, who predicted at least 100 million doses of a coronavirus vaccine could be distributed by the end of 2020.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden/democrat-biden-warns-against-rushing-out-coronavirus-vaccine-says-trump-cannot-be-trusted-idUSKBN2671NW

That doesn't go anywhere near saying that Biden would refuse to take a vaccine developed during a Trump presidency. On the contrary - he said he woud take a vaccine judged safe in a transparent scientific process.

[jeremyrh]

  That just distorts private decision of the market which is the best selection process.

Deja vu all over again.

[Alan Klein]

It's not nice to tell lies
That doesn't go anywhere near saying that Biden would refuse to take a vaccine developed during a Trump presidency.

It's exactly what Biden conveyed.  That you can't trust a vaccine under the Trump administration.  That if any government expert said it was OK, you'd have to believe that Trump twisted the expert's arm to get him to say it was OK.  That was the impression the Dems represented before the election.  They dovetailed it with comments that there's no way for vaccines to be developed for two years, maybe by Spring, definitely not by the end of the year.  Especially a vaccine you could trust.  Biden and the rest of the democrats were politicking the issue.  Anyone hearing the doubts elicited by Democrats knew that was their position.

[digitaldog]

It's not nice to call people liars.
WILMINGTON, Del. (Reuters) SEPTEMBER 16, 2020 6:13 AM- Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden on Wednesday rejected President Donald Trump’s charge that he is spreading fear about the safety of a potential coronavirus vaccine, urging Trump to defer to scientists and not rush its rollout.
“Let me be clear: I trust vaccines, I trust scientists, but I don’t trust Donald Trump,” Biden said. “At this moment, the American people can’t either.”

Alan's of course confused by dates too. Biden may have said the above on September 16th.
When did the FDA approve the first Vaccine? December 11th:

FDA Takes Key Action in Fight Against COVID-19 By Issuing Emergency Use Authorization for First COVID-19 Vaccine
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-key-action-fight-against-covid-19-issuing-emergency-use-authorization-first-covid-19
The science was decided by the FDA and others, nearly three months AFTER Alan's misunderstanding of what Biden smartly told us.

[Alan Klein]

The Cuomo plot thickens. With a picture.

New York Times: Third woman accuses Cuomo of unwanted advances in 2019 as crisis deepens
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/02/politics/andrew-cuomo-anna-ruch/index.html

[TechTalk]

August 6, 2020 - Washington (Reuters) - Trump says coronavirus vaccine possible before Nov. 3

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-trump-vaccine/trump-says-coronavirus-vaccine-possible-before-nov-3

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday it was possible the United States would have a coronavirus vaccine before the Nov. 3 election, a more optimistic forecast on timing than anything suggested by his own White House health experts.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the top U.S. government infectious diseases official, offered a more conservative view in a Reuters interview on Wednesday, saying there might be an indication that at least one vaccine works and is safe by year end. [The first FDA emergency use authorization (EUA) came on December 11, 2020]

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden on Wednesday rejected President Donald Trump’s charge that he is spreading fear about the safety of a potential coronavirus vaccine, urging Trump to defer to scientists and not rush its rollout.

Let me be clear: I trust vaccines, I trust scientists, but I don’t trust Donald Trump,” Biden said.

Thank's Joe. Sounds like good advice.

[faberryman]

The Cuomo plot thickens. With a picture.

New York Times: Third woman accuses Cuomo of unwanted advances in 2019 as crisis deepens
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/02/politics/andrew-cuomo-anna-ruch/index.html

Anybody here care whether Cuomo stays or goes?

[TechTalk]

Anybody here care whether Cuomo stays or goes?

Alan. He has a laser-like focus on him, accusing him of being responsible for killing thousands of people.

[faberryman]

Kayleigh "I will never lie to you" McEnany is now a paid contributor to Fox News.

Fox News Insiders Rage Against Hiring ‘Mini Goebbels’ Kayleigh McEnany

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-insiders-rage-against-hiring-mini-goebbels-kayleigh-mcenany

"“It’s truly disgusting they fired hard-working journalists who did care about facts and news reporting only to turn around and hire a mini-Goebbels whose incessant lies from the White House helped incite an insurrection on our democracy that got five people killed, including a police officer,” a Fox News insider raged to The Daily Beast."

[digitaldog]

Anybody here care whether Cuomo stays or goes?

Nope.
And Cuomo is a rank amateur compared to Alan's hero Trump when it comes to women who have accuses of him of unwanted advances and worse (rape):
The 26 women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct
https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12

[digitaldog]

Meanwhile, the 2nd big lie gets shown to be just that:
FBI Director Wray knocks down conspiracy theory that January 6 rioters were 'fake Trump protesters'
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/02/politics/fbi-director-chris-wray-january-6-riot-hearing/index.html

FBI Director Chris Wray told lawmakers Tuesday that the FBI has not seen any evidence indicating that the rioters who took part in the January 6 US Capitol attack were "fake Trump protesters," knocking down a baseless claim that has been pushed by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson in recent weeks as he has sought to downplay the violence committed by supporters of former President Donald Trump.

[Alan Klein]

Anybody here care whether Cuomo stays or goes?

The issue was who's to blame for Covid decisions that may have led to infections and death - the Federal government under Trump or the various Governors.  Of course, you'd prefer not to discuss governors.

[faberryman]

The issue was who's to blame for Covid decisions that may have led to infections and death - the Federal government under Trump or the various Governors.  Of course, you'd prefer not to discuss governors.

So how does this relate to that?

The Cuomo plot thickens. With a picture.

New York Times: Third woman accuses Cuomo of unwanted advances in 2019 as crisis deepens
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/02/politics/andrew-cuomo-anna-ruch/index.html

[digitaldog]

So how does this relate to that?

Busted again.
The answer, if it comes (hopefully not) will be a diversion deeper into the rabbit hole of Klein.

[Alan Klein]

Kayleigh "I will never lie to you" McEnany is now a paid contributor to Fox News.

Fox News Insiders Rage Against Hiring ‘Mini Goebbels’ Kayleigh McEnany

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-insiders-rage-against-hiring-mini-goebbels-kayleigh-mcenany

"“It’s truly disgusting they fired hard-working journalists who did care about facts and news reporting only to turn around and hire a mini-Goebbels whose incessant lies from the White House helped incite an insurrection on our democracy that got five people killed, including a police officer,” a Fox News insider raged to The Daily Beast."

So let's see, David Axelrod is a political commenter on CNN.  If I recall correctly for the Truth Squad here, wasn't he the campaign advisor and confidante of President Obama before CNN hired him?  A "mini=Goebbels" as the Daily Beast calls these people.  Do you really want to go down the list of the number of insiders who lied for both Obama and Biden who were hired by liberal stations? 

From a position of having an inside track, who better to hire than insiders like Axelrod and McEnany if you want to know how the presidents think.  They aren't being hired as journalists but political commentators.  If people want to read the real news, they can check in here at LuLa. 

[faberryman]

Everybody get out your barf bags.

"McEnany, in her first extended public interview since former President Donald Trump left office, told Fox News that she intended to have a final briefing as a send-off of sorts at the end of her tenure. She said the riot fomented by a throng of Trump supporters made that impossible."

“I wanted to do a press briefing on the way out about all the great achievements of this administration, and all the good that I felt that the president had done,” McEnany said. “We didn't get the opportunity to do that because obviously Jan. 6th, it just was something that was not tenable.”

"McEnany addressed reporters briefly on Jan. 7 but opted to read off a roughly two minute-long prepared statement and exited without taking questions."

“I knew I needed to go to the podium,” McEnany said Tuesday. “I knew that's what Christ would want me to do. I knew it's what, as a woman of faith, I needed to do."

WWJD?

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/02/trump-mcenany-insurrection-farewell-press-conference-472544

[Alan Klein]

So how does this relate to that?

Well, he'd rather talk about sex than his sending sick old people back to their homes to die and infect others.  He may only lose his job over the sex.  But the Covid issue could mean criminal charges for lying to the federal government and covering up figures.  He's already hired a criminal attorney to handle that issue. 

[faberryman]

So let's see, David Axelrod is a political commenter on CNN.  If I recall correctly for the Truth Squad here, wasn't he the campaign advisor and confidante of President Obama before CNN hired him?  A "mini=Goebbels" as the Daily Beast calls these people.  Do you really want to go down the list of the number of insiders who lied for both Obama and Biden who were hired by liberal stations?

Nope. That would be whataboutism.

[jeremyrh]

It's exactly what Biden conveyed.  That you can't trust a vaccine under the Trump administration.  That if any government expert said it was OK, you'd have to believe that Trump twisted the expert's arm to get him to say it was OK.  That was the impression the Dems represented before the election.  They dovetailed it with comments that there's no way for vaccines to be developed for two years, maybe by Spring, definitely not by the end of the year.  Especially a vaccine you could trust.  Biden and the rest of the democrats were politicking the issue.  Anyone hearing the doubts elicited by Democrats knew that was their position.

You made a specific claim and now you're waffling about "conveyed". No credibility.