US Elections 2020 (geopolitics, informed debate, no ad hominems)

Biden

14 (66.7%)

Trump

7 (33.3%)

Total Members Voted: 21

Voting closed: November 02, 2020, 06:25:59 pm

[Alan Klein]

I'd love to take a look at your internet search history.

Check my posts where I link to different articles.  Let me know what you come up with.

[faberryman]

Curious if their report included Democratic Gov of NY Cuomo who by his Covd actions sent thousands of old people to their deaths in old age homes.  Or did they conveniently leave that out?

They didn't include it, or leave it out, because it was not the subject of their research. Why don't you do a research project and figure out how many people Cuomo killed? I wouldn't be at all surprised if Cuomo's actions killed 700 people or even more. Just because Cuomo killed 700 people, doesn't mean it is okay for Trump to kill 700 people. Perhaps both of them are fuck-ups.

This is that old whataboutism I have been telling you about every other day for the past couple of months. I was really hoping you would catch on by now.

[faberryman]

Check my posts where I link to different articles.  Let me know what you come up with.

Is your internet research limited to the links you post? No telling what else you have been reading to inform yourself.

[faberryman]

Thanks for your analysis.  I feel better already.  What do I owe you?

No charge.

[Alan Klein]

The didn't include it, or leave it out, because it was not the subject of their research. Why don't you do a research project and figure out how many people Cuomo killed? I wouldn't be at all surprised if Cuomo's actions killed 700 people or even more. Just because Cuomo killed 700 people, doesn't mean it is okay for Trump to kill 700 people. Perhaps both of them are fuck-ups.

This is that old whataboutism I have been telling you about every other day for the past couple of months. I was really hoping you would catch on by now.

Cherry picking data to blame a political candidate smacks of bias on their part not whataboutism on mine. 

[Alan Klein]

Is your internet research limited to the links you post? No telling what else you have been reading to inform yourself.

Unlike many people here who only inform themselves by reading one-sided anti-Trump screeds, I read political commentary and news provided by all sides.  You have to know what your adversary is thinking. 

[faberryman]

Cherry picking data to blame a political candidate smacks of bias on their part not whataboutism on mine.

For your clarification, your attempt to shift the discussion to what Cuomo did or didn’t do is the whataboutism. Why don’t you go spend five or ten minutes reading about it so you will understand my comment?

[faberryman]

Unlike many people here who only inform themselves by reading one-sided anti-Trump screeds, I read political commentary and news provided by all sides.  You have to know what your adversary is thinking. 

Maybe you do, maybe you don’t. It doesn’t look like you do to me, but that is just my opinion. I could be wrong.

[Alan Klein]

Maybe you do, maybe you don’t. It doesn’t look like you do to me, but that is just my opinion. I could be wrong.

It's easy to follow the other side.  95% of it is the other side. 

[Craig Lamson]

It’s been fun guys, I think I’ll check out of this thread early.

Enjoy the election and the aftermath.

[faberryman]

It’s been fun guys, I think I’ll check of this thread early.

Enjoy the election and the aftermath.

Yep, only a couple of days to go before the voting is over and the massive voter fraud lawsuits begin. I think both sides have engaged lawyers in every hamlet and village so everyone is well prepared, and eager and rarin’ to go.

[Peter McLennan]

It’s been fun guys, I think I’ll check out of this thread early.

Enjoy the election and the aftermath.

Fraidy cat!

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

Fraidy cat!

Indeed, as if one were trying to cover his ass.

No one would be surprised if the result is a surprise (as a function of one's political color) ...

[faberryman]

I looked on the Fox News website, and didn't see any stories on the Hunter Biden laptop issue, so I guess they think it is no longer worthy of attention.

I also checked Breitbart. Nothing there except a short article saying Trump is pissed off that the commie/lib media isn't covering the story. He doesn't seem pissed off that neither is the right wing media.

Infowars had five, count them five, articles, the first saying that there is a big FBI coverup, the second saying CNN said the story "stinks”, the third saying UPS found Tucker's lost documents, the fourth saying Giuliani has confirmed child porn of the laptop, and last but not least, wait for it, the fifth saying that Biden said there was nothing to the story. So basically Breitbart's got nothing.

The New York Post had two stories, the first saying that Lindsay Graham said the laptop story was going to turn the election, and the second saying that Hunter was bad at setting his password.

Ron Johnson subpoenaed Twitter and Facebook to come before the Senate Judiciary Committee and explain their actions or inactions in relation to the Hunter Biden laptop story. They are scheduled to appear on November 17, 2020, so he doesn't seem to be in a white hot rush to get anything done.

I am sure there are other right wing websites and blogs and whatnot that have stories, but I don't know who they are, so if your are still interested, you will have to seek them out yourself.

[Alan Klein]

I looked on the Fox News website, and didn't see any stories on the Hunter Biden laptop issue, so I guess they think it is no longer worthy of attention.

I also checked Breitbart. Nothing there except a short article saying Trump is pissed off that the commie/lib media isn't covering the story. He doesn't seem pissed that neither is the right wing media.

Infowars had five, count them five, articles, the first saying that there is a big FBI coverup, the second saying CNN said the story "stinks, the third saying UPS found Tucker's lost documents, the fourth saying Giuliani has confirmed child porn of the laptop, and last but not least, wait for it, the fifth saying that Biden said there was nothing to the story. So basically Breitbart's got nothing.

The New York Post had two stories, the first saying that Lindsay Graham said the laptop story was going to turn the election, and the second saying that Hunter was bad at setting his password.

Ron Johnson subpoenaed Twitter and Facebook to come before the Senate Judiciary Committee and explain their actions or inactions in relation to the Hunter Biden laptop story. I think they are scheduled to appear on November 17, 2020, so he doesn't seem to be in a white hot rush to get anything done.

I am sure there are other right wing websites and blogs and whatnot that have stories, but I don't know who they are, so if your are still interested in the story, you will have to find them yourself.

90 million people already voted.  The rest in 48 hours. The story is too little & too late. It isn't being covered by the left wing press anyway. It has about as much chance of changing any minds as this thread.

[Alan Klein]

Indeed, as if one were trying to cover his ass.

No one would be surprised if the result is a surprise (as a function of one's political color) ...

Sounds like you're covering yours.    It may not matter if Jeremy shuts all the threads down.  Of course, there should be one last thread: "Who Do You Think Won?"  It may take awhile to find out.

[faberryman]

It isn't being covered by the left wing press anyway.

It isn't being covered by the right wing press either, so I guess nobody cares.

[John Camp]

2018 comment from Steve Bannon:

“The Democrats don’t matter. The real opposition is the media. And the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with shit.”

(For our European readers, "flood the zone" is an American football term in which one defensive area is overloaded with offensive players.)

[LesPalenik]

Most political commentators on CBC, including David Frum from Atlantic are predicting a clear win for Biden. Which corresponds with the LuLa poll.
The total count on the Lula poll jumped to 15 (10 for Biden, 5 for Trump), so there must be at least 15 people still frequenting the LuLa Coffee Corner.

[faberryman]

A few minutes ago, I mentioned everybody’s favorite radiologist Scott Adams, Trump’s go to guy for coronavirus advice. Well, it appears the good doctor did a sit down interview with RT, which, as most of us know, is the Russkie propaganda network. When someone pointed out that he may have made an error in judgment, the oblivious Dr. Adams said oops, and has issued an apology. He is just lucky he is not appearing in a Borat film lying on his back on a hotel room bed with his hands down his pants, while a 24 year old actress portraying a 15 year old reporter watches the action, whiskey glass in hand. Actually, I think she had glasses of whiskey in both hands. She was holding his glass of whiskey for him, so he could do whatever he was doing with his hand down his pants. Then old Scott Adams would have had to go into hiding while he racked his brain, or what was left of it, for an innocent explanation for the whole thing.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/01/media/scott-atlas-russian-media/index.html