US Elections 2020 (geopolitics, informed debate, no ad hominems)

Biden

14 (66.7%)

Trump

7 (33.3%)

Total Members Voted: 21

Voting closed: November 02, 2020, 06:25:59 pm

[Craig Lamson]

It might help if you spelled her name correctly.  Just because a Republican switches allegiance does not mean they have forsaken their conservative credentials.  The only two who are constantly cheering on the President from the pages of the WaPo are Hugh Hewitt and Marc Thiessen.

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[TechTalk]

Biden and the Democrats are worse.  Both will break the bank and put us all into the poor house.

Don't worry Alan. If Biden wins and you end up hungry, I'll buy buy you a Reuben or whatever sandwich you might prefer.

[Manoli]

Following on from reports that the UK Prime Minister has been advised to distance himself from Trump (#2172). here’s the latest from the UK Conservative right wing press (a sentiment replicated throughout most major european publications):

[Manoli]

In the recent televised one-on-one, Trump, questioned on QAnon, claimed to know nothing about them other than they were opposed to paedophilia. An “I know nothing” repeated several times. Yet the FBI have categorises them as a ‘Domestic Terror Threat’.

So what should the world conclude,  that POTUS is oblivious to the reports of his security services or that he simply ignores them if they happen to impinge on his cult-base of die-hard support ?

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

... On the same day, i received a confirmation from the Broward County Supervisor of Elections (Florida) that my vote has been received. I can even go online now and see when it is actually counted...

And only a day later, that confirmation has also come:

[JoeKitchen]

Great write up by Jonathan Turley on the Biden email scandal. 

Jonathan Turley: Hunter Biden's laptop and the Facebook, Twitter censorship scandal – watch these 3 things

Essentially if the store was fabricated, you would expect three things to happen within hours of it breaking. 

1.  A denial that that computer was Hunter Biden's.  You have to assume as soon as the story broke, Hunter was contacted and asked if this was his computer.  If he said no, we would have heard about it the day of, but have not. 

2.  Even if the computer was Hunter's, it could be that the emails and photos were fabricated, and if so, that would be a crime.  Again, nothing; no denial that any of the emails were fabricated. 

3.  The Biden teams has many lawyers under the campaign belt, and if this story was not authentic, it would be defamation and you would expect to see "intent to sue" letters going out.  Crickets it is. 

And now ... it appears that Fox News has verified the authenticity of the emails from someone on one of the email chains.  He also confirmed that "The Big Guy" refers to Joe Biden in the email about "H" holding onto "10 for the Big Guy." 

Source on alleged Hunter Biden email chain verifies message about Chinese investment firm

So, it is looking like Biden used his influence to both enrich his son and himself, through his son.  This is serious and a violation of the law.  This shows me that Biden is unfit for the presidency. 

Trump certainly has many personal foibles, but there is no evidence he has ever done anything corrupt.  It is now obvious Biden is corrupt. 


PS, for as much as some on here talk about how smart Biden is, he sure does like using talking points for morons, such as cops shooting people in the legs.  My God, and you try to convince us this guy really is intelligent.  No, Joe Biden, Cops Can't Just Shoot People in the Leg

[JoeKitchen]

A little off the horse race, but dealing with Politics, a 48% plurality of voters support ACB's confirmation with 44% plurality feeling she should be confirmed before the election. 

Support for Barrett nomination ticks up to 48 percent: poll

Only 31% disapprove of her altogether with 36% feeling the vote should wait until after the election. 

This, combined with Hunter's email scandal the Media censoring content, makes me feel there is a paradigm shift going on in the country away from leftism.  Who knows if the momentum is there for this to take hold by the election, but leftism is dead. 

[faberryman]

Nothing in my newsfeed this morning about Hunter’s laptop except that Joe Biden said it was a smear campaign and he had no response. The Infowars website server was down so I couldn’t check the status of the child porn photos story. I guess things are kind of slow on the weekend.

Edit: There is a new story in the New York Post about some text messages between Hunter and Joe when Hunter was in rehab that the color-blind computer guy scavenged off the hard drive. Not sure they help Trump, but I may be missing something obvious.

[Manoli]

Essentially if the store was fabricated, you would expect three things to happen within hours of it breaking. 

I’d expect none of the three things listed.

And now ... it appears that Fox News has verified the authenticity of the emails from someone on one of the email chains...

I’ll hand it to you Joe, your sense of humour brightens even the darkest moments.

[Alan Goldhammer]

He's actually a social liberal, having lived and worked in liberal NYC all his life. 

Why doesn't he support abortion rights?  I don't know of any social liberal who doesn't.

[Alan Goldhammer]

Ah, my bad.  But thanks for being a forum spelling nazi.  Much appreciated.

You could have picked another less offensive term!

[JoeKitchen]

I’d expect none of the three things listed.

I’ll hand it to you Joe, your sense of humour brightens even the darkest moments.

That's right, you can only use News sources you like to verify stories, lol. 

Do you pre-dig the holes to bury your head in, or is it a more in the moment thing? 

[JoeKitchen]

Nothing in my newsfeed this morning about Hunter’s laptop except that Joe Biden said it was a smear campaign and he had no response. The Infowars website server was down so I couldn’t check the status of the child porn photos story. I guess things are kind of slow on the weekend.

Edit: There is a new story in the New York Post about some text messages between Hunter and Joe when Hunter was in rehab that the blind computer guy scavenged off the hard drive. Not sure they help Trump, but I may be missing something obvious.

It's not called fake news for no reason. 

It is beyond the obvious at this point, many news outlets are suppressing anything damaging to the Dems.  CNN did not cover any of the SCOTUS hearings this week.  Does that mean they did not happen? 

If you only pay attention to News outlets on the left, you'll miss a lot of things, and vis versa.  Another, peace in the Middle East, barely covered by any mainstream outlets.  I guess that did not happen either. 

My favorite part about the Biden story is that the Biden Campaign told Twitter and FB it was just a smear campaign, so FB and Twitter blocked the story.  The mainstream News organizations that used that as a reason to discredit the story (no actual journalism here), which the Biden campaigned used as proof that is was not a true story. 

Loving the circular reasoning on this one. 

[Craig Lamson]

You could have picked another less offensive term!

Its just a common phrase on internet forums.  I didn't make it up.

[faberryman]

It's not called fake news for no reason. 

It is beyond the obvious at this point, many news outlets are suppressing anything damaging to the Dems.  CNN did not cover any of the SCOTUS hearings this week.  Does that mean they did not happen?

I’ll check the Infowars website again later to see if the server’s back up.

[JoeKitchen]

I’ll check the Infowars website again later to see if the server’s back up.

Infowars?  I have never heard of Infowars until just now. 

Exactly what is Infowars and what issues do you have with them? 

[Craig Lamson]

It's not called fake news for no reason. 

It is beyond the obvious at this point, many news outlets are suppressing anything damaging to the Dems.  CNN did not cover any of the SCOTUS hearings this week.  Does that mean they did not happen? 

If you only pay attention to News outlets on the left, you'll miss a lot of things, and vis versa.  Another, peace in the Middle East, barely covered by any mainstream outlets.  I guess that did not happen either. 

My favorite part about the Biden story is that the Biden Campaign told Twitter and FB it was just a smear campaign, so FB and Twitter blocked the story.  The mainstream News organizations that used that as a reason to discredit the story (no actual journalism here), which the Biden campaigned used as proof that is was not a true story. 

Loving the circular reasoning on this one.

The left media is in complete cover their butt and candidate mode.  They can't report on this story honestly. They have invested four years and untold dollars to working to oust Trump.  It has been an utter failure for them.  Now with their final gambit in play, they can't let their work be undone in the final hours.  Truth be damned.  No matter that it sure looks like Joe is a crook, he's their crook.  The Chinese own Biden and that is not a good thing for America.  I don't care if you hate Trump with a passion, this story should give any reasonable American the willies.

From a friend of the computer repair guy.

https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2020/10/yes-the-hunter-biden-emails-are-authentic-by-larry-c-johnson.html

Yes, The Hunter Biden Emails Are Authentic by Larry C Johnson

A couple of select passages.  Read the whole thing, its quite interesting.

...

This story is very simple–Hunter Biden dropped off three computers with liquid damage at a repair shop in Wilmington, Delaware on April 12, 2019. The owner, John Mac Issac, examined the three and determined that one was beyond recovery, one was okay and the data on the harddrive of the third could be recoverd. Hunter signed the service ticket and John Paul Mac Issac repaired the hard drive and down loaded the data. During this process he saw some disturbing images and a number of emails that concerned Ukraine, Burisma, China and other issues. With the work completed, Mr. Mac Issac prepared an invoice, sent it to Hunter Biden and notified him that the computer was ready to be retrieved. Hunter did not respond. In the ensuing four months (May, June, July and August), Mr. Mac Issac made repeated efforts to contact Hunter Biden. Biden never answered and never responded. More importantly, Biden stiffed John Paul Mac Issac–i.e., he did not pay the bill.

...

John Paul Mac Issac is not responsible for the emails, images and videos recovered from Hunter Biden’s computer. He was hired to do a job, he did the job and submitted an invoice for the work. Hunter Biden, for some unexplained reason, never responded and never asked for the computer. But that changed last Tuesday, October 13, 2020. A person claiming to be Hunter Biden’s lawyer called John Paul Mac Issac and asked for the computer to be returned. Too late. That horse had left the barn and was with the FBI.

[faberryman]

Infowars?  I have never heard of Infowars until just now. 

Exactly what is Infowars and what issues do you have with them?

Infowars is the website that had the story quoting Giuliani as saying there was a bunch of child porn on Hunter's laptop. It is right-leaning. I don't usually read it, but when I couldn't find any stories about Hunter's laptop anywhere else, I went there.

About CNN, I don't watch it so I don't know whether they covered the Judiciary Committee hearings or not. Seems like there was plenty of coverage on TV, print media, and the web. No question in my mind the hearings occurred. Unless they faked them like the moon landing. I guess that's possible.

But you're right. Just because there was no story in the media about an explorer finding an entire Sasquatch village in the Yukon last week doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I can't keep up with all the stories the media does report, much less all the stories they don't report. There is a lot of uncertainty in life. Knowing that, I try to remain calm and go about my business as best I can.

[Alan Klein]

Don't worry Alan. If Biden wins and you end up hungry, I'll buy buy you a Reuben or whatever sandwich you might prefer.

Thanks. I hope you'll be able to afford it. 

[Alan Klein]

And only a day later, that confirmation has also come:

Then way they counted chads in Florida, they probably credited your vote for the other guy.