US Elections 2020 (geopolitics, informed debate, no ad hominems)

Biden

14 (66.7%)

Trump

7 (33.3%)

Total Members Voted: 21

Voting closed: November 02, 2020, 06:25:59 pm

[KLaban]

Lick handrails, Jesus, what kind of fetishes are you into? 

But anyway, I've been going out like it's 1999 for the past two months.  I ain't scare of no ghost, or dying from Covid.  That  is not to say I dont think I'll catch it, just that, given the stats, that I wont die or have any long term side effects if I do.

Attaboy Attacowboy.

[jeremyrh]

Lick handrails, Jesus, what kind of fetishes are you into? 

But anyway, I've been going out like it's 1999 for the past two months.  I ain't scare of no ghost, or dying from Covid.  That  is not to say I dont think I'll catch it, just that, given the stats, that I wont die or have any long term side effects if I do.

And you don't care about the people you may pass it on to. "Class act".

[Alan Klein]

Who among us have complained that Joe is working?

You could have fooled me. Ever since Joe said in June I think it was that he as going back to work, everyone has been on his back like he's some sort of leper. It's refreshing to hear that you're happy he's working.

[Alan Klein]

And the stay-in old person gets covid from the food delivery person who got it from her brother who got it during a photo shoot.

If "everyone" means a significant minority of voters, then this is true.

My wife and I just did a curbside pickup of groceries from the supermarket.  We both  wore masks, kept the windows partially open, and the stock boy had a mask on as he put the bags in the trunk.  All the groceries were disinfected when we got home.

The more younger people who get sick is actually better for older people as I see it.  The quicker that happens, the faster we old people can get out and live normally.  The slower it happens, just means we have to stay hidden longer in the basement like Biden, another old fart.

[Alan Klein]

Hell, Joe, have the courage of your convictions, just go out and lick those handrails. You'll either get the virus, survive and have some immunity or you'll meet your maker. Either way it'll put you and us out of your misery.

Wow.  That just shows how the left thinks.  They rather see the economy fail if it helps Trump lose.

[KLaban]

Wow.  That just shows how the left thinks.  They rather see the economy fail if it helps Trump lose.

My comment had nothing at all to do with Trump and everything to do with Joe's misery.

[jeremyrh]

The more younger people who get sick is actually better for older people as I see it.  The quicker that happens, the faster we old people can get out and live normally.  The slower it happens, just means we have to stay hidden longer in the basement like Biden, another old fart.

Again with the "herd immunity" fantasy.  Better hope you have a comfy chair in your cellar.

[James Clark]

Wow.  That just shows how the left thinks.  They rather see the economy fail if it helps Trump lose.

Shared sacrifice in the name of a greater good. 

[Alan Klein]

Watch what you pray for.  You may get it. 

[JoeKitchen]

Speaking of more lockdown, this just in from the NYTs. 

Biden’s Loose Lips Could Sink His Chances; We elect presidents to lead, not defer.

The sub-title could be better.

[Alan Klein]

Speaking of more lockdown, this just in from the NYTs. 

Biden’s Loose Lips Could Sink His Chances; We elect presidents to lead, not defer.

The sub-title could be better.

Like I said earlier, he stuck his foot in it.  Only the left wants to shut down the economy.  He bought into it because he's like a sponge absorbing everything the left wants.  Unlike Trump who you know where he stands, Biden blends in like a chameleon without a mind of his own.  He's politically blind that it's just the same voters who gave Trump his victory in 2016 who need to work to feed their family like the coal miners then.  He's repeating Hillary's mistake by approving their out-of-work problems, worse encouraging it by telling them to stay home.

[Manoli]

What needs repeating is that those who are fearful can stay inside, like you are suggesting for the entire population.

No, Joe, not even close.
And again, no, I’m not going to engage further - John Camp answered Alan Klein’s earlier post succinctly in post #1122 .

Shouldn’t be too hard to comprehend.

[JoeKitchen]

No, Joe, not even close.
And again, no, I’m not going to engage further - John Camp answered Alan Klein’s earlier post succinctly in post #1122 .

Shouldn’t be too hard to comprehend.

You have your views, I have mine, and, well, we both seem to be beyond the point of discussing them to come to an agreement at this point. 

However, I would contest that you and so many others on the left decided far before this point for all of us without asking our permission, and that no compromise was even going to be discussed.  And that is what the average person despises so much about your side.  Fact is, you and so many other leftist elites have left us with only one option, rebel. 

But anyway, your way of thinking has fallen to the side in the last weeks.  Seen the Wall Street Journal lately?  Your side has lost.  There will be no more lockdowns, in this country at least.

[TechTalk]

Wow.  That just shows how the left thinks.  They rather see the economy fail if it helps Trump lose.

No. Your comment shows how you think. You assign evil intent and motive to those with different opinions from you. Very sad.

Only the left wants to shut down the economy.

Only in your fevered imagination does anyone want to shut down the economy. There's a difference between having a desire to shut down the economy and responding to a deadly and highly contagious pandemic, but you feel it necessary to assign the worst motives that you can.

[James Clark]

However, I would contest that you and so many others on the left decided far before this point for all of us without asking our permission, and that no compromise was even going to be discussed.  And that is what the average person despises so much about your side.  Fact is, you and so many other leftist elites have left us with only one option, rebel. 

 

[Alan Klein]

No. Your comment shows how you think. You assign evil intent and motive to those with different opinions from you. Very sad.

Only in your fevered imagination does anyone want to shut down the economy. There's a difference between having a desire to shut down the economy and responding to a deadly and highly contagious pandemic, but you feel it necessary to assign the worst motives that you can.

The election is coming down to the economy and how many people are sick. Trump is spending the country into oblivion and providing unconstitutional money for the unemployed to increase his chance of winning.  Pelosi refuses to vote the unemployed money figuring they'll blame Trump and vote for Biden. Covid is a fig leaf to cover what's really going on.  That's how the game is played.   

[Peter McLennan]

The election is coming down to the economy and how many people are sick. Trump is spending the country into oblivion and providing unconstitutional money for the unemployed to increase his chance of winning.  Pelosi refuses to vote the unemployed money figuring they'll blame Trump and vote for Biden. Covid is a fig leaf to cover what's really going on.  That's how the game is played.

And that's the way it is, folks.  August, 2020.  Good night and good luck.

[TechTalk]

Did Biden mention what the percentage of scientists recommending the shut-down would cause him to comply? A greater than 50% consensus, or a perhaps a 97% consensus? 

I don't know. But I'm confident that the medical science advice that he gets will be from actual experts in their field and not some guy that hawks pillows on TV that's discovered a miracle cure or graduates from Dunning Kruger University that prefer to pontificate online instead of participating in peer review.

[Alan Klein]

I don't know. But I'm confident that the medical science advice that he gets will be from actual experts in their field and not some guy that hawks pillows on TV that's discovered a miracle cure or graduates from Dunning Kruger University that prefer to pontificate online instead of participating in peer review.

Biden wil do what his Democrat masters tell him to do.

[Robert Roaldi]

... Democrat masters ...

The Illuminati?   Noooo, say it ain't so.