US Elections 2020 (geopolitics, informed debate, no ad hominems)

Biden

14 (66.7%)

Trump

7 (33.3%)

Total Members Voted: 21

Voting closed: November 02, 2020, 06:25:59 pm

[kers]

Goodyear's policy allows sloganeering for Black Lives Matter but not Blue Lives Matter or All Lives Matter.  So they've taken a political position supporting Biden's views but not Trumps during a presidential election.  So Trump is making an issue of it.Trump is feeding into the anger on the right about Democrats controlled cities that are going after the police and supporting left wing organizations like BLM.  He's reminding voters they have a choice about some big issues.  The left would prefer the voters forget about democrat fecklessness and weakness in the face of riots and mayhem they allowed.

My god, 170.000 people just died the last 5 months and this president make points about the amount of water coming from the shower and this goodyear crap...

[jeremyrh]

Goodyear's policy allows sloganeering for Black Lives Matter but not Blue Lives Matter or All Lives Matter.  So they've taken a political position supporting Biden's views but not Trumps during a presidential election.  So Trump is making an issue of it.Trump is feeding into the anger on the right about Democrats controlled cities that are going after the police and supporting left wing organizations like BLM.  He's reminding voters they have a choice about some big issues.  The left would prefer the voters forget about democrat fecklessness and weakness in the face of riots and mayhem they allowed.

They've taken a position that outlaws specifically racist slogans.  It's a shame (for America) that that position can be seen as "anti-Trump".

[Alan Klein]

My god, 170.000 people just died the last 5 months and this president make points about the amount of water coming from the shower and this goodyear crap...

I don't know anything about a shower.  What's your point and what does it have to do with Covid?

[Alan Klein]

They've taken a position that outlaws specifically racist slogans.  It's a shame (for America) that that position can be seen as "anti-Trump".

They also have taken an anti-police position.  People can be against racism but still support cops. 

[jeremyrh]

They also have taken an anti-police position.  People can be against racism but still support cops.

In what way have they taken an anti-police position?

[Alan Klein]

In what way have they taken an anti-police position?

Goodyear's policy allows sloganeering for Black Lives Matter but not Blue Lives Matter or All Lives Matter.  So you can't show support for police.

I read recently that 80% of black people support their police.  They need them to protect their communities. You realize a person can be against cops who discriminate and act violently or inappropriately, a minority, and those that do a good job protecting the people they serve?  Goodyear's policy won't allow their employees to say that.  Why not?  Don't you think we should support good cops and good policing?

[jeremyrh]

Goodyear's policy allows sloganeering for Black Lives Matter but not Blue Lives Matter or All Lives Matter.  So you can't show support for police.

I read recently that 80% of black people support their police.  They need them to protect their communities. You realize a person can be against cops who discriminate and act violently or inappropriately, a minority, and those that do a good job protecting the people they serve?  Goodyear's policy won't allow their employees to say that.  Why not?  Don't you think we should support good cops and good policing?

Oh, I see - this phony argument again.  The point of "black lives matter" is not that "other lives don't matter", it's that black people have been treated like their lives don't matter.  If you now pop up and say "what about this life" or "what about that life" it is trivialisiing or devaluing what black people experience as a daily reality.

[Alan Klein]

Oh, I see - this phony argument again.  The point of "black lives matter" is not that "other lives don't matter", it's that black people have been treated like their lives don't matter.  If you now pop up and say "what about this life" or "what about that life" it is trivialisiing or devaluing what black people experience as a daily reality.

Other people interpret things differently.  Why does the left always want to silence political and social views they don't agree with? 

[jeremyrh]

Other people interpret things differently.  Why does the left always want to silence political and social views they don't agree with?

Seems to me that it's "the right" who are trying to do the silencing, with knees and guns and phony arguments.

[PeterAit]

I don't know anything about a shower.  What's your point and what does it have to do with Covid?

So you haver missed Trump sniveling about low-flow shower heads?

[PeterAit]

Goodyear's policy allows sloganeering for Black Lives Matter but not Blue Lives Matter or All Lives Matter.  So they've taken a political position supporting Biden's views but not Trumps during a presidential election.  So Trump is making an issue of it.Trump is feeding into the anger on the right about Democrats controlled cities that are going after the police and supporting left wing organizations like BLM.  He's reminding voters they have a choice about some big issues.  The left would prefer the voters forget about democrat fecklessness and weakness in the face of riots and mayhem they allowed.

If you bothered to look into this, this "banning" of MAGA hats seems to be mostly made up. There was ONE slide presented at ONE diversity training session at ONE Goodyear plant. No one knows where the slide came from, it is not officially part of any Goodyear training, and the company disavows it. It's a non-issue.

[jeremyrh]

So you haver missed Trump sniveling about low-flow shower heads?

Not to mention the toilet flushes - I know he's full of it, but does he really need to flush "10-15 times"?

[James Clark]

"Only the best people..."

Four more Trumpers indicted for financial crimes, including former Trump right hand man and all-around slime ball Steve Bannon, and an "acting" head of something or another, (because so many of Trump's appointments can never pass Congressional muster.)

Story here.

This comes on the heels of yesterday's announcement that other notable Trumper slime ball Ken Cuccinelli and notable authoritarian enabler Chad Wolf have been determined to be placed in their positions illegally, which in turn comes on the heels of the revelation a day or two ago that the Republican-led Senate investigatory committee referred three Trumpy individuals to the DoJ for criminal prosecution for giving false testimony, which, of course, comes in the heels of said DoJ trying to wipe Flynn's confession/conviction for lying to the FBI from the record while at the same time trying to claim gross misconduct because a low level FBI official altered a footnote.

Wow.   

I'd be proud, my Trumpy friends.  It's been a stellar couple of days.  Just can't wait to sign up for four more years of these criminals, huh? 

[William Walker]

"Only the best people..."

Four more Trumpers indicted for financial crimes, including former Trump right hand man and all-around slime ball Steve Bannon, and an "acting" head of something or another, (because so many of Trump's appointments can never pass Congressional muster.)

Story here.

This comes on the heels of yesterday's announcement that other notable Trumper slime ball Ken Cuccinelli and notable authoritarian enabler Chad Wolf have been determined to be placed in their positions illegally, which in turn comes on the heels of the revelation a day or two ago that the Republican-led Senate investigatory committee referred three Trumpy individuals to the DoJ for criminal prosecution for giving false testimony, which, of course, comes in the heels of said DoJ trying to wipe Flynn's confession/conviction for lying to the FBI from the record while at the same time trying to claim gross misconduct because a low level FBI official altered a footnote.

Wow.   

I'd be proud, my Trumpy friends.  It's been a stellar couple of days.  Just can't wait to sign up for four more years of these criminals, huh? 

[Alan Klein]

So you haver missed Trump sniveling about low-flow shower heads?

I'm a sniveler about low flow shower heads too.  Worse than that are 1 GPM toilet flushes.  Don't get me started on those. 

[Alan Klein]

If you bothered to look into this, this "banning" of MAGA hats seems to be mostly made up. There was ONE slide presented at ONE diversity training session at ONE Goodyear plant. No one knows where the slide came from, it is not officially part of any Goodyear training, and the company disavows it. It's a non-issue.

Glad to hear Goodyear straightened it out.

[LesPalenik]

If you bothered to look into this, this "banning" of MAGA hats seems to be mostly made up. There was ONE slide presented at ONE diversity training session at ONE Goodyear plant. No one knows where the slide came from, it is not officially part of any Goodyear training, and the company disavows it. It's a non-issue.

They should allow only one kind of political hats, and also they should appoint an inspector/monitor to make sure the employees comply with the new regulation.

[Alan Klein]

"Only the best people..."

Four more Trumpers indicted for financial crimes, including former Trump right hand man and all-around slime ball Steve Bannon, and an "acting" head of something or another, (because so many of Trump's appointments can never pass Congressional muster.)

Story here.
...

They should go to jail if true.  But why the charges now so close to the election?  The liberal and democrat NY courts have been trying to embarrass the president.  So four guys conspire together and leave a written record trail of fraud?  Bannon isn't a dummy.  Could he be that dumb to steal charitable funds, have three witnesses and leave a paper trail?  If so, he should go to jail just for stupidity.

[PeterAit]

Other people interpret things differently.  Why does the left always want to silence political and social views they don't agree with?

Straw man. Well, what else is new?

[MattBurt]

Amazing! 45 is definitely setting records here. It's tremendous, terrific, and classy.
Has any other administration ever had even a fraction of the indictments his has? To quote the man himself, "Nobody has ever seen anything like this before.".
MAGA!