Covid 19 Updates Part 2

[hogloff]

There is no clear data supporting the theory that the US was hit later than France.

Only the measures to test patients started later on a large scale. The incredibly fast pace of increase is simply because the epidemic was already there.

So the very fact that you think the US was hit later is the result of the late reaction by your President who has done everything he could to minimize the reality of the crisis.

Japan was hit way before France but the numbers are super low because they never tested anyone.

Cheers,
Bernard

This is exactly right. Testing in Washington State started at least 2 weeks after testing in neibouring British Columbia. I've seen enough medical people pleading for more testing as patients piled up.

Locking down flights from China was good. Enabling all the Americans in China to come back without any testing or quaranteen was a disaster as these people ( some infected ) were walking around the country spreading their virus into other...and the exponential spread starts.

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

I would say that is more the fault of the media.

Really?

[JoeKitchen]

Here you go,

It is still a chain of command thing either way you look at it.  Part of acting professionally in the Navy means going up the chain of command.  If you dont, you are being unprofessional by their standards.  I know many navy sailors; this is how it works.

[hogloff]

I think it's happening naturally.  Have you been outside?  There're few people on the roads or on the streets except when they have to work or go shopping.  The governments of each state shut down various venues like malls, playgrounds, theaters, etc.  So you can't congregate there and subsequently have natural quarantine.  There will probably be a bounce in the birth rate in 9 months. I don't know how much more you can do short of martial law?  People do have to go places to get food and other supplies and handle their jobs otherwise there won't be any food for anyone.

The failure was weeks ago when no quaranteen was set up for people coming from abroad. Now the horse is out of the barn.

[JoeKitchen]

Really?

Yes, really. 

Every single news story in February over here, regardless of the source, was downplaying this.  Every one.  The NYTs said hysteria was spreading faster then the virus, and that we need to calm down.  I believe Vox (liberal press) said it was not any worse then the flu in February. 

News may have been different in the EU, but here, in February, it was pretty mute on the virus. 

Even in Australia, in the beginning of March, I had a conversation with an Australian, in Australia, who thought this was nothing to worry over.  At this time, things were becoming more dire in the USA, which I saw when I checked the news.  I told him this and he was blown away.  His words were to the effect of, "you guys have hurricanes, tornadoes, bush fires, like we do, earthquakes, and even you are going nuts over this.  I told my wife, the USA is not going to become crazy too; they have more important things to worry about." 

The apathy was world wide Bart. 

[hogloff]

Strength and courage.

Stupidity is more like it. Strength and courage would show him standing 10' apart from others and showing by example what he's asking his sheep to do.

[JoeKitchen]

The law of common sense that comes from the leadership of your country. Canada has no such law, but people understand the importance because they were told about the consequences of going out and being infected. It all starts at the top.

Yep, you Canadians are doing this so much better. 

Justin Trudeau issues stern warning to Canadians: 'Go home and stay home'

The blunt message on Monday came after images circulated online showing groups of people congregating in parks, along streets and on playing fields over the weekend.

“We’ve all seen the pictures online of people who seem to think they’re invincible,” the prime minister said. “Well, you’re not. Enough is enough.”

FYI, this was March 23rd. 

[Alan Klein]

A common medicine ‘could be a COVID-19 wonder drug’ (hydroxychloroquine )

Sky News host Chris Kenny says “while there are no magic cures” for the deadly coronavirus, a common medicine used to treat malaria and rheumatoid arthritis is now “touted as a bit of a wonder drug for COVID-19”.

Mr Kenny said the drug hydroxychloroquine “has now been authorised for use on coronavirus in the US” and is being looked at in Australia too.

“It is cheap and easy to produce but is already running short, so production is ramping up”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj0GfXbEElc

[faberryman]

You lost me here. 

Perhaps it's a farmhouse thing?

Sorry to be obtuse. I was referring to the saying "closing the barn door after the horse has gotten out", meaning taking action too late.

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

A common medicine ‘could be a COVID-19 wonder drug’ (hydroxychloroquine )

Sky News host Chris Kenny says “while there are no magic cures” for the deadly coronavirus, a common medicine used to treat malaria and rheumatoid arthritis is now “touted as a bit of a wonder drug for COVID-19”.

Mr Kenny said the drug hydroxychloroquine “has now been authorised for use on coronavirus in the US” and is being looked at in Australia too.

“It is cheap and easy to produce but is already running short, so production is ramping up”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj0GfXbEElc

And can have serious side-effects.

[Alan Klein]

The failure was weeks ago when no quaranteen was set up for people coming from abroad. Now the horse is out of the barn.

But some limits were made at the end of January when the American government stopped travelers from China.  It was a major policy decision considering that not much had happened here at that point.  Of course, knowing all the facts in retrospect, it's easy to be a genius.  The world is full of Monday morning quarterbacks.

[JoeKitchen]

Sorry to be obtuse. I was referring to the saying "closing the barn door after the horse has gotten out", meaning taking action too late.

I got you now. 

FYI, I'm not a Phish fan; I despise Phish!  I want that to be known.  I was justing being silly. 

[Alan Klein]

And can have serious side-effects.

So can Covid-19.

[JoeKitchen]

And can have serious side-effects.

Nothing more serious then death. 

Hey, you're going to die, but I cant give you this potential life saving drug because it may have some side effects and the FDA/media would get mad at me.  Perfectly logical argument. 

[faberryman]

But some limits were made at the end of January when the American government stopped travelers from China.  It was a major policy decision considering that not much had happened here at that point.  Of course, knowing all the facts in retrospect, it's easy to be a genius.  The world is full of Monday morning quarterbacks.

Again Alan, that didn't apply to US citizens or permanent residents, so they were free to bring the virus back with them.

[PeterAit]

I read or heard yesterday Trump is losing a million a day.

That's OK, he'll just do what he has done many times in the past--stiff his creditors.

[Craig Lamson]

The failure was weeks ago when no quaranteen was set up for people coming from abroad. Now the horse is out of the barn.

Once again, you want to quaranteen 3 million travelers?  Really? 

[Craig Lamson]

That's OK, he'll just do what he has done many times in the past--stiff his creditors.

Or he could just get the Federal help available to other business.  Oh wait, Congress chose to punish him becuase he is Trump and denied him the same policy benefits availabe to everyone else.

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

Some news for Slobodan, and others affected.

Russia sends medical aid to Serbia to fight coronavirus
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-russia-serbia/russia-sends-medical-aid-to-serbia-to-fight-coronavirus-idUSKBN21L17H

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

... as he stands shoulder to shoulder at the podium. What message is that sending?

That they all tested negative already.