Topic: Covid 19 Updates Part 2 (Read 30335 times)

Alan Klein · « **on:** March 28, 2020, 02:31:23 pm »

The last thread was opened and closed so often, it was making my head spin. So I started this one and promise never to close it and let it die out naturally.

LesPalenik · « **Reply #1 on:** March 28, 2020, 02:35:16 pm »

Speaking about dying. Over 30,000 deaths globally, over 1,900 in USA alone. Next projection - 40,000 by March 31.

Slobodan Blagojevic · « **Reply #2 on:** March 28, 2020, 03:59:07 pm »

Yawn. Wake me up when it passes the usual 50-60K deaths from regular flu every year (in the States).

Bart_van_der_Wolf · « **Reply #3 on:** March 28, 2020, 04:20:45 pm »

Quote from: Slobodan Blagojevic on March 28, 2020, 03:59:07 pm

Yawn. Wake me up when it passes the usual 50-60K deaths from regular flu every year (in the States).

On March 1st, 2020, the first Covid-19 death was reported in the USA.
On March 28th, 2020, 1988 people have died and the numbers are growing exponentially.
That's not counting the number of deaths from other causes due to ICUs being overwhelmed.

In a year's time? We'll see.

William Walker · « **Reply #4 on:** March 28, 2020, 04:22:57 pm »

Alan, Slobodan, Craig & Joe:

On 20th January 2020 the first case of Covid was reported in the US. On the same day the first case was reported in South Korea.

Today (as per Johns Hopkins https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6) the US has 116 505 cases & 1925 deaths.
South Korea have 9478 cases and 144 deaths.

Please explain this.

If you need a hint, read this: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/28/trump-coronavirus-politics-us-health-disaster

LesPalenik · « **Reply #5 on:** March 28, 2020, 04:33:10 pm »

Quote from: Bart_van_der_Wolf on March 28, 2020, 04:20:45 pm

On March 1st, 2020, the first Covid-19 death was reported in the USA.
On March 28th, 2020, 1988 people have died and the numbers are growing exponentially.
That's not counting the number of deaths from other causes due to ICUs being overwhelmed.

In a year's time? We'll see.

I'm guessing also the year end time frame.

LesPalenik · « **Reply #6 on:** March 28, 2020, 04:37:26 pm »

Quote from: William Walker on March 28, 2020, 04:22:57 pm

Alan, Slobodan, Craig & Joe:

On 20th January 2020 the first case of Covid was reported in the US. On the same day the first case was reported in South Korea.
Today (as per Johns Hopkins https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6) the US has 116 505 cases & 1925 deaths.
South Korea have 9478 cases and 144 deaths. Please explain this.

If you need a hint, read this: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/28/trump-coronavirus-politics-us-health-disaster

One possible explanation is that by the time the first US case was recognized, there were already many unreported or in-progress cases there.

Craig Lamson · « **Reply #7 on:** March 28, 2020, 04:45:32 pm »

Quote from: William Walker on March 28, 2020, 04:22:57 pm

Alan, Slobodan, Craig & Joe:

On 20th January 2020 the first case of Covid was reported in the US. On the same day the first case was reported in South Korea.

Today (as per Johns Hopkins https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6) the US has 116 505 cases & 1925 deaths.
South Korea have 9478 cases and 144 deaths.

Please explain this.

If you need a hint, read this: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/28/trump-coronavirus-politics-us-health-disaster

So whats the difference? One country is small, the other is massive,and has a constitution which limited what it could do in regards to personal liberty, a system of 50 states who mosty control their own destiny, massive federal government with many agencies all wanting power and control and a population who seemed to care less. Couple that with a CDC who had it head firmly planted where the sun don't shine.

If you want to say "its Trumps" fault, have at it.

BTW the death rate between the two countries as a percentage of cases is .015 for S.Korea and .016 for the US.

elliot_n · « **Reply #8 on:** March 28, 2020, 04:46:58 pm »

Tis but a scratch...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs

William Walker · « **Reply #9 on:** March 28, 2020, 04:57:16 pm »

Quote from: LesPalenik on March 28, 2020, 04:37:26 pm

One possible explanation is that by the time the first US case was recognized, there were already many unreported or in-progress cases there.

You could apply the same explanation to South Korea.....?

William Walker · « **Reply #10 on:** March 28, 2020, 05:00:19 pm »

Quote from: Craig Lamson on March 28, 2020, 04:45:32 pm

So whats the difference? One country is small, the other is massive,and has a constitution which limited what it could do in regards to personal liberty, a system of 50 states who mosty control their own destiny, massive federal government with many agencies all wanting power and control and a population who seemed to care less. Couple that with a CDC who had it head firmly planted where the sun don't shine.

If you want to say "its Trumps" fault, have at it.

BTW the death rate between the two countries as a percentage of cases is .015 for S.Korea and .016 for the US.

You clearly did not read The Gaurdian article I attached...did you?

armand · « **Reply #11 on:** March 28, 2020, 05:03:44 pm »

Quote from: Alan Klein on March 28, 2020, 02:31:23 pm

The last thread was opened and closed so often, it was making my head spin. So I started this one and promise never to close it and let it die out naturally.

I should have let it locked long ago. It was supposed be a factual discussion but alas that didn't pan out, I couldn't bear to be its initiator. It also led to a PM from one couldn't live without having the last word.

JoeKitchen · « **Reply #12 on:** March 28, 2020, 05:05:55 pm »

Quote from: armand on March 28, 2020, 05:03:44 pm

I should have let it locked long ago. It was supposed be a factual discussion but alas that didn't pan out, I couldn't bear to be its initiator. It also led to a PM from one couldn't live without having the last word.

Well, it was bad form on your part to end the topic after adding a snarky response.

armand · « **Reply #13 on:** March 28, 2020, 05:07:10 pm »

Quote from: JoeKitchen on March 28, 2020, 05:05:55 pm

Well, it was bad form on your part to end the topic after adding a snarky response.

I admit, I'm guilty. I just wanted it to be over with; and I didn't think the response to you was snarky ...

JoeKitchen · « **Reply #14 on:** March 28, 2020, 05:08:56 pm »

Quote from: armand on March 28, 2020, 05:07:10 pm

I admit, I'm guilty. I just want it to be over with; and I din't think the response to you was snarky ...

Just making a point, perhaps in a more ironic way then what it actually was.

Craig Lamson · « **Reply #15 on:** March 28, 2020, 05:13:07 pm »

Quote from: William Walker on March 28, 2020, 05:00:19 pm

You clearly did not read The Gaurdian article I attached...did you?

Every word. What’s your point? You founded a couple of writers that want to blame the whole thing on Trump?

Craig Lamson · « **Reply #16 on:** March 28, 2020, 05:14:31 pm »

Quote from: armand on March 28, 2020, 05:03:44 pm

I should have let it locked long ago. It was supposed be a factual discussion but alas that didn't pan out, I couldn't bear to be its initiator. It also led to a PM from one couldn't live without having the last word.

I’m not the one who had to bug out when the going got tough....

Alan Klein · « **Reply #17 on:** March 28, 2020, 05:15:48 pm »

Quote from: William Walker on March 28, 2020, 04:22:57 pm

Alan, Slobodan, Craig & Joe:

On 20th January 2020 the first case of Covid was reported in the US. On the same day the first case was reported in South Korea.

Today (as per Johns Hopkins https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6) the US has 116 505 cases & 1925 deaths.
South Korea have 9478 cases and 144 deaths.

Please explain this.

If you need a hint, read this: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/28/trump-coronavirus-politics-us-health-disaster

Well, anti-Trumpers guessed wrong when they said Trump was going to start WWIII. So I guess they'll have to settle for Covid-19. Meanwhile 60 % of Americans think he's doing pretty good with the virus response. The other 40% are Democrats.

Slobodan Blagojevic · « **Reply #18 on:** March 28, 2020, 05:46:18 pm »

Quote from: William Walker on March 28, 2020, 04:22:57 pm

Alan, Slobodan, Craig & Joe:

On 20th January 2020 the first case of Covid was reported in the US. On the same day the first case was reported in South Korea.

Today (as per Johns Hopkins https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6) the US has 116 505 cases & 1925 deaths.
South Korea have 9478 cases and 144 deaths.

Please explain this...

On a per capita basis, the two states are rather close to each other, without taking all other differences, cultural, political, etc. into account.

JoeKitchen · « **Reply #19 on:** March 28, 2020, 05:53:57 pm »

William Walker,

South Korea had a pretty well developed testing infrastructure due to H1N1, which they used to their advantage in this outbreak. By pure luck, H1N1 caused this infrastructure to already be set up in their country and helped them immensely.

In comparison, the USA, and every other western country, did not need to worry about H1N1 nearly as much and did not have a need to develop this infrastructure. This disparity is what is making SK so much more prepared then many others, including the USA.

Thanks for the left wing propaganda though.

Second, as Slobo points out, population surely has a big part of it as well. Namely the fact that the USA has a much higher population than SK.

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