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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #520 on: April 02, 2020, 11:11:12 am »



This is has already trekked into the realm of stupidity, and if it continues anymore, then yes, Americans are not going to pay attention to it.  Especially considering we are all at home without any work getting bored out of our minds and antsy. 


Oh I bet those Americans that are getting bored sitting at home would love that privilege when they are fighting for their life on a ventilator.

Being bored is such a selfish excuse...it boggles my mind.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #521 on: April 02, 2020, 11:13:21 am »


America must be stranger than I'd thought: the first time I was a grandchild I was barely (pun intended) seconds old. I still am a grandchild, more than eighty years later. Peter Pan, eat your heart out.

I have no idea what you are trying to imply here. 

We started this comparing Spring Breakers (college aged persons who go to some warm place to party in March) vs. golfers.  Spring Breakers are by definition adults, albeit young.  Pedophiles by definition prefer children, not adults. 
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #522 on: April 02, 2020, 11:15:53 am »

I have no idea what you are trying to imply here. 

We started this comparing Spring Breakers (college aged persons who go to some warm place to party in March) vs. golfers.  Spring Breakers are by definition adults, albeit young.  Pedophiles by definition prefer children, not adults.


Spring breakers? They are irrelevant to my point, and I made no reference to them; the reference I made was to the state if being a grandchild, which one way or another, every one of us has to be.

An interesting philosophical/religious question might be if a foetus is a grandchild. Or if being pre-foetal by a week or two entitles one to legal protection or otherwise.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #523 on: April 02, 2020, 11:17:02 am »

I don't know what you mean by spite...

Simple. Although playing golf under the reasonable precautionary measures already described have zero to very little chance of doing any public harm, we can't let rich people have any fun while the rest suffer. That's spite.

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« Reply #524 on: April 02, 2020, 11:18:13 am »

Oh I bet those Americans that are getting bored sitting at home would love that privilege when they are fighting for their life on a ventilator.

Being bored is such a selfish excuse...it boggles my mind.

LOL. 

As Slobo pointed out, this really is looking like spite, that or a total failure on your part to actually think through individual issues, as classic problem with all bureaucracies I admit. 

What comes next?  Should I no longer be allowed to sit on my porch and have a drink or a cigar?  How about being outside to garden?  Those with dogs, should they go back to letting it crap on old news papers in the corner?  And if you cant leave your house, where do you get news papers when they run out? 

This is all becoming stupid, real fast.  This is why people, in the USA at least, dont like government. 
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #525 on: April 02, 2020, 11:18:37 am »

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #526 on: April 02, 2020, 11:20:54 am »

I certainly agree with this. 

My issue is there are probably a lot of people out there that bought a gun for the first time last month, and since all non-essential businesses are closed, have had neither the training nor any practice. 

Like I said, I can see more then one of these recent gun owners walking around the house with a load gun holding it with their finger on the trigger (because that is how it is done in the movies) and accidentally discharging it.

Yea, a lot of this buying is dangerous and will result in accidents.  One of my firends hasa a business in Illinois doing training for concealed carry ( required in IL)  He has a lot of contacts with local and national gun dealers.  One local guy said some people were buying any gun that the dealer had ammo for.  He used the example of a woman buying a Ruger LCR in .38.  This is a nice, really compact polymer handgun used for highly concealed carry. The problem is its really hard to use comfortably.  Its small, hard to hold with any comfort and it kicks like a mule becsue of the very short barrel and light weight.  We had one for a time but I was only good for about 6 rounds at the range because it just flat out hurt.  We bought it for my wife but she hated it and never carries.  Sold it andf got her a Ruger GP100 revolver in .357 instead.  Big heavy firearm, longer barrel and is quite comfortable to shoot.  She needs a revolver because her hand strength is not enough to rack the slide of a semi automatic pistol. 


The point here is too many folks making life and petentially death choices with little or no understanding and as much as I favor the 2A, this is not a good situation.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #527 on: April 02, 2020, 11:21:04 am »

Simple. Although playing golf under the reasonable precautionary measures already described have zero to very little chance of doing any public harm, we can't let rich people have any fun while the rest suffer. That's spite.

Oh please, put it back in your pants. A lot of non-rich people work at golf courses. This isn't a back door to let in Stalin's great grandkids. :)
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #528 on: April 02, 2020, 11:24:52 am »

Boy we are all bored today 8).  You write a post and the warning box comes up and says there were 8 new posts while you were typing ..lol

Its nice, sunny and warm here today.  I already took the dogs for a walk around the block and I think I'll do some yard work...
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #529 on: April 02, 2020, 11:25:38 am »

... What comes next?  Should I no longer be allowed to sit on my porch and have a drink or a cigar?...

Oh, how bourgeois!. Or boujee, as today's kids call it.

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #530 on: April 02, 2020, 11:28:52 am »

...You write a post and the warning box comes up and says there were 8 new posts while you were typing ..lol

Its nice, sunny and warm here today.  I already took the dogs for a walk around the block and I think I'll do some yard work...

That's why I turned that feature off ;)

As for sunny day... it is already curfew where I am (past 5pm), so I must post. Or go crazy.

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #531 on: April 02, 2020, 11:33:18 am »

LOL. 

As Slobo pointed out, this really is looking like spite, that or a total failure on your part to actually think through individual issues, as classic problem with all bureaucracies I admit. 

What comes next?  Should I no longer be allowed to sit on my porch and have a drink or a cigar?  How about being outside to garden?  Those with dogs, should they go back to letting it crap on old news papers in the corner?  And if you cant leave your house, where do you get news papers when they run out? 

This is all becoming stupid, real fast.  This is why people, in the USA at least, dont like government.


Few people anywhere like government. Mostly, you have to pay it money. Sometimes, however much money you pay it, you are still left to die on the street because you can't afford a doctor or a medical drug, or there just aren't sufficient supplies. Also, as you pay more, the weekly rate of garbage collections goes down. Was a time households were neat, and leafy suburban roads were too. These days, they are filled with ugly containers for divided garbage. I used to think that was why we paid our town halls: to handle garbage collection, segregation and disposal.

I can see it, shortages, coming here in Spain, even for everyday pills. I note that my renewals for permanent heart meds are now changing from brand to brand, whereas before the virus, it was almost always the same brand. I get the feeling that supplies for everything are on a just-in-time basis these days, and the slightest hiccup throws it out of synch, and this ain't no hiccup.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #532 on: April 02, 2020, 11:34:09 am »


This is all becoming stupid, real fast.  This is why people, in the USA at least, dont like government.

Yeh...the Wild Wild West...everyone buy a gun and rule their perch.
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« Reply #533 on: April 02, 2020, 11:35:43 am »

Yeh...the Wild Wild West...everyone buy a gun and rule their perch.

BTW, you still have not answered my question. 

Where you live, are they emptying the prisons of pretty much every criminal except only those who have committed murder? 
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hogloff

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #534 on: April 02, 2020, 11:38:42 am »


I can see it coming here in Spain, even for everyday pills. I note that my renewals for permanent heart meds are now changing from brand to brand, whereas before the virus, it was almost always the same brand. I get the feeling thst supplies for everything are on a just-in-time basis these days, and the slightest hiccup throws it out if synch, and this ain't no hiccup.

Most medicine comes from either China or India so I can see there being a hiccup with supply. Hopefully with China getting back to production things get back to normal supply of drugs.

My wife has Parkinson's and needed to change brands of her drugs. She definitely saw a difference with the new brand, and not in a good way. Pharmacies have strict distribution of the drugs ensuring no hoarding takes place.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #535 on: April 02, 2020, 11:39:16 am »

Instead of a statement, here's an honest question for liberals and conservatives alike. (Even a few liberals play golf. Like Obama.)

My golf club has a policy of allowing people on the course but only if (a) you walk -- no carts, which could be contaminated. (b) You don't come within 6 yards of another golfer. (3) You have you bring your own clubs -- there are no people in the storage areas to retrieve them. You're allowed to use the practice chipping and putting areas if (a) you bring your own balls, and don't exchange balls with anyone, (b) you don't get within 6 yards of another player. Again, no carts.

Arizona (where I don't live) is currently having a controversy about golf courses being allowed to remain open. Do you think the courses should be closed as a matter of solidarity with the rest of the country which has no such outlet? Or that they should be allowed to remain open under conditions outlined above? Is this a richie-richie v. proletarian kind of controversy, even though the biggest golf courses around here are (a) public or (b) operated by casinos at cheap prices? Is this controversy aimed at Trump, who, by actual count, has been in office 1,167 days (as of April Fool's Day) and has, by actual count, on that day, played 117 rounds of golf at an approximate cost to the taxpayers of $133,000,000?* (There are actual websites who keep track of these things, easily found on the net.)

Anyway, should golf be banned?

Please, please don't ask any more questions about golf. :)
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #536 on: April 02, 2020, 11:40:57 am »

BTW, you still have not answered my question. 

Where you live, are they emptying the prisons of pretty much every criminal except only those who have committed murder?

Nope...nothing that stupid. But don't forget there were already way more guns sold in the US than people in the US way before this virus came around. This gun fetish has nothing to do with the virus...the virus is just another excuse to feed that fetish.
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« Reply #537 on: April 02, 2020, 01:00:25 pm »

And you believe that knocking a tiny ball from one hole to another with a tool that could not have been less appropriate for the task is normal behaviour?

Worse, do you believe that knocking a ball from hole to hole with anything constitutes normal behaviour? Why would you do that?

I was a serious golfer for quite a while and I think your question could actually be extended to "Why would you play anything with a ball of any shape?" If you can find a reason for one of them, you have a reason for all. I played several ball sports (base-, basket- and foot-) and none were as compelling as golf. With golf, you rely on nobody but yourself; there are no excuses (the other guy played bad.) And odd as it seems, a golf ball always does what you fear, and it's interesting to find out how deeply and easily you fear.
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« Reply #538 on: April 02, 2020, 01:02:48 pm »


Absolutely; just like taking an aspirin if you think you might have had unprotected sex. You'd be much better off with one of those extra guns.

I did that. The aspirin thing. Helps with the headache.
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« Reply #539 on: April 02, 2020, 01:13:56 pm »

The friend I mentioned underwent training and licensing, before buying a gun.

I'm pretty fascinated by the gun thing. I can tell you without even knowing her that her training sucks and won't much help if she needs to use the gun. If you look at police shootings, even in good departments, most of them are fuck-ups. Even though they go through extensive training and are usually required to re-qualify with their weapons every year, cops still screw the pooch if they get in an actual shootout or dangerous situation. They fire wildly, they kill and wound innocent people, they kill fellow officers, and occasionally they kill an actual miscreant, who, more often than not, committed shoplifting. (Okay, I exaggerate a bit.) The fact remains that very little gun training actually prepares people to use a gun in a dangerous situation. (I should insert here that I'm licensed for concealed carry, because I wanted to go through the process for my job, although I only actually carried for one day and never did see anyone I felt free to shoot.) But: here in the states, there's this SHTF fantasy -- the Shit Hits the Fan, when society breaks down and everybody needs a black rifle and 10,000 rounds, minimum. There are entire racks of magazines devoted to the subject, and to what you should have in your bug-out bag, and whether your combat knife should be titanium or steel, and exactly which of 400 options you should whet your knife with.

Getting to the current rush of buyers, I suspect -- no way to prove it -- that 90% of the buyers already have a gun, and, most likely, several guns. It's a way of thinking. It may be nuts, but there it is. 
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