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Craig Lamson

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #500 on: April 02, 2020, 10:45:51 am »

A lot of the things we do in life are not rational. For example: arguing about politics on a photography forum.

This is not new.  Once upon a time on another photo site, I think it was Photosig, they had a "coffee corner" and the discussion turn to the Iraq war and the politics of same.  To say it got heated would be an understatement.  As a result about 20 of the members of both political stripes made a forum on Delphi to continue.  From that forum I now have 6 really good friends from around the country and we all get together every year or so. With some its almost daily contact still.  Without a political discussion on a photo website I never wouhld have had these friends.  Maybe its that you can only talk about the latest lens or camera body for so long:)
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #501 on: April 02, 2020, 10:45:55 am »

...  By the way, I really dont think someone who have never shot of gun should be using this as an excuse to go out and buy one...

The friend I mentioned underwent training and licensing, before buying a gun.

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #502 on: April 02, 2020, 10:47:57 am »

Grandchildren don't have to be let back in.  Problem solved.


True; they can go visit all those kindly peadophiles being released. That'll be fun.

I told you the lunatics were running the American Asylum.

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #503 on: April 02, 2020, 10:49:47 am »

Little insensitive there Joe. There are many families where the grand parents live with their children or being taken care of by their children.

My  90 YO mother lives with us, and aside from our age and medical history, keeping mom from getting the virus is a major part of why we prepared and continue to stay isolated. I know I can't be alone in thinking like this.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #504 on: April 02, 2020, 10:49:54 am »


True; they can go visit all those kindly peadophiles being released. That'll be fun.

I told you the lunatics were running the American Asylum.

:-)

Pedophiles aren't interested in Spring Breakers, sadly, and if they were, it wouldn't be illegal. 
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #505 on: April 02, 2020, 10:50:58 am »

Grandmas don't need to visit their idiot grandchildren. 

Not to mention, I don't many golfers that roll onto the course expecting to throw a kegger with wet t-shirt contests and mosh pits. 

Perhaps John Daly.

Yes, of course, it's a given that if everyone behaved responsibly there would be fewer problems. But you were the one who has said all along that the rebellious US population will refuse to be controlled. Ok fine, I get it, so what do you do then if you are the civil authority trying to prevent further contagion. At some point, if things get too hairy, you may have to shut down everything by force of law. How does that get you what you want?

You seem to approach everything from the point of view that individual personal freedom is at the top of the hierarchy. Some of the time it is, even most of the time, but sometimes it just isn't. One's personal desire to play a round of golf may not always be the most important issue. It doesn't strike me that not being able to play for a while is a very serious blow to personal freedom.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #506 on: April 02, 2020, 10:51:42 am »

Grandchildren don't have to be let back in.  Problem solved.

And where would these grandchildren go...live out in the streets? Think about it Joe...there are many families out there with 3 generations living together. I grew up with my grandfather living in our house.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #507 on: April 02, 2020, 10:52:20 am »

By the way, can anyone remember the last time they heard "Make America Great Again" being said on their tv set?

Just asking.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #508 on: April 02, 2020, 10:55:00 am »

By the way, can anyone remember the last time they heard "Make Ametica Great Again" being said on their tv set?

Just asking.

Nah...he already accomplished that last year.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #509 on: April 02, 2020, 10:55:12 am »

...It doesn't strike me that not being able to play for a while is a very serious blow to personal freedom.

I may or may not be, but at the same time it is not a very serious blow to the efforts to prevent the spread either. It seems to me that the rationale behind the urge to ban it is simply spite.

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #510 on: April 02, 2020, 10:56:45 am »

Pedophiles aren't interested in Spring Breakers, sadly, and if they were, it wouldn't be illegal.


America must be stranger than I'd thought: the first time I was a grandchild I was barely (pun intended) seconds old. I still am a grandchild, more than eighty years later. Peter Pan, eat your heart out.

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #511 on: April 02, 2020, 10:59:01 am »

Yes, of course, it's a given that if everyone behaved responsibly there would be fewer problems. But you were the one who has said all along that the rebellious US population will refuse to be controlled. Ok fine, I get it, so what do you do then if you are the civil authority trying to prevent further contagion. At some point, if things get too hairy, you may have to shut down everything by force of law. How does that get you what you want?

You seem to approach everything from the point of view that individual personal freedom is at the top of the hierarchy. Some of the time it is, even most of the time, but sometimes it just isn't. One's personal desire to play a round of golf may not always be the most important issue. It doesn't strike me that not being able to play for a while is a very serious blow to personal freedom.

Sorry Rob, but this makes no sense. 

Playing golf on a 100 to 200 acre park, essentially, by yourself or standing 6 yards from another person is a hell of a lot different then partying on a beach during Spring Break. 

Using the moronic activities of Spring Breakers as a reason to shut down all activities, even ones with a near zero chance of spreading the virus, is either an act of total stupidity or some pathetic party ideological bull shit. 

On top of that, Golfers are not going to interact with a litany of people during their game like a spring breaker would buying drinks and food.  Most will just show up with their own bag, clubs, balls, glove, their own drinks (whatever that may be) and aside from paying the green fees will not talk to a damn person other then someone who is playing with them. 

This is has already trekked into the realm of stupidity, and if it continues anymore, then yes, Americans are not going to pay attention to it.  Especially considering we are all at home without any work getting bored out of our minds and antsy. 

Seriously, you think you can take away all activities, pleasures and work from people, and then expect them to stay inside indefinitely?  Dont be foolish. 
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #512 on: April 02, 2020, 10:59:55 am »

By the way, can anyone remember the last time they heard "Make Ametica Great Again" being said on their tv set?

Just asking.

LOL!

Same goes for Let's get Brexit done.

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #513 on: April 02, 2020, 11:00:37 am »

Answer me this, are other countries letting criminals in jail out onto the street because of this? 

And I dont mean petty criminals.  Sex offenders, rapists, domestic violence offenders, assault preps, etc. are being let out right now.  That is not a very reassuring action. 

By the way, I really don't think someone who has never shot a gun should be using this as an excuse to go out and buy one.  I can see many accidental shootings happening due to this. 

FYI, for any new gun owners out there, remember, keep your booger hook off the bang switch till you ready to bring the hate, please.

Part of being a responsible gun owner is training and continued learning a practice. My wife and I took a number of classes before we ever bought a gun.  In Indiana there is no training requirement to become a concealed carry permit holder so we took that upon ourselves.  Not everyone does and I'm really in favor of having a training component to gun ownership.  In addition you need regular range time to keep your skills and formost your safety training current. Thats why I belong to the Isaak Walton in my area so I have, in part, unlimited access to the rifle and pistol range. 

That said and evenwith our continuing efforts to stay current, neith my wife nor I know what we would actually do in an emergency situation and being faced with discharging a weapon towards another human.  I would hope that if my or my family lives were in danger I could protect them if needed. But unless I'm faced directly with that situation I'll never know.  I hope beyond hope that I never have to make that decision.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #514 on: April 02, 2020, 11:01:52 am »

I may or may not be, but at the same time it is not a very serious blow to the efforts to prevent the spread either. It seems to me that the rationale behind the urge to ban it is simply spite.

I don't know what you mean by spite.

But as I said in another post, I think it's time and place dependent. I would say that it is the responsibility of those trying to ban these things to explain the rationale, keeping in mind that as you and others have said/implied, people can't be trusted to do the right thing on their own.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #515 on: April 02, 2020, 11:03:56 am »

Part of being a responsible gun owner is training and continued learning a practice. My wife and I took a number of classes before we ever bought a gun.  In Indiana there is no training requirement to become a concealed carry permit holder so we took that upon ourselves.  Not everyone does and I'm really in favor of having a training component to gun ownership.  In addition you need regular range time to keep your skills and formost your safety training current. Thats why I belong to the Isaak Walton in my area so I have, in part, unlimited access to the rifle and pistol range. 

That said and evenwith our continuing efforts to stay current, neith my wife nor I know what we would actually do in an emergency situation and being faced with discharging a weapon towards another human.  I would hope that if my or my family lives were in danger I could protect them if needed. But unless I'm faced directly with that situation I'll never know.  I hope beyond hope that I never have to make that decision.

I certainly agree with this. 

My issue is there are probably a lot of people out there that bought a gun for the first time last month, and since all non-essential businesses are closed, have had neither the training nor any practice. 

Like I said, I can see more then one of these recent gun owners walking around the house with a load gun holding it with their finger on the trigger (because that is how it is done in the movies) and accidentally discharging it. 
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« Reply #516 on: April 02, 2020, 11:05:57 am »

Sorry Rob, but this makes no sense. 

Playing golf on a 100 to 200 acre park, essentially, by yourself or standing 6 yards from another person is a hell of a lot different then partying on a beach during Spring Break. 

Using the moronic activities of Spring Breakers as a reason to shut down all activities, even ones with a near zero chance of spreading the virus, is either an act of total stupidity or some pathetic party ideological bull shit. 

On top of that, Golfers are not going to interact with a litany of people during their game like a spring breaker would buying drinks and food.  Most will just show up with their own bag, clubs, balls, glove, their own drinks (whatever that may be) and aside from paying the green fees will not talk to a damn person other then someone who is playing with them. 

This is has already trekked into the realm of stupidity, and if it continues anymore, then yes, Americans are not going to pay attention to it.  Especially considering we are all at home without any work getting bored out of our minds and antsy.

We're going in circles. Everything you say is true, until it isn't. What a community allows or doesn't allow is time and place dependent.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #517 on: April 02, 2020, 11:07:47 am »

I may or may not be, but at the same time it is not a very serious blow to the efforts to prevent the spread either. It seems to me that the rationale behind the urge to ban it is simply spite.


Why spite? Do you imagine it's a class thing, golf? My son played it when he was a humble assistant chef without a half-penny to spare, and finding time-slots in which to do that, and socialise in other ways too, was why a few years later he changed career.

Today, he's in self-imposed lockdown as his wife is confined to the bedroom, being recently released from hospital after a dose of Corinne Corona. I suppose he could always play the radio if he feels at a loose end. Or go shopping for essentials, one essential per trip. He has a nice car - may as well use it and keep the battery charged, this cold weather.

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #518 on: April 02, 2020, 11:07:55 am »

We're going in circles. Everything you say is true, until it isn't. What a community allows or doesn't allow is time and place dependent.

Great platitude!
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« Reply #519 on: April 02, 2020, 11:09:57 am »

And where would these grandchildren go...live out in the streets? Think about it Joe...there are many families out there with 3 generations living together. I grew up with my grandfather living in our house.

Welcome to adulthood, where your actions have consequences! 

If the adult grandchild (remember spring breakers are adults) is stupid enough to go to Spring Break, then that is his/her problem to figure out. 
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