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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #440 on: April 01, 2020, 08:40:53 pm »

I believe we are up to 240,000 deaths as having done a good job. You have to check in every day to Trump's televised self-adulation hour for updates.
So Obama praised himself before his 2012 re-election of how he got us out of Iraq.  Of course, he never mentioned how this created the ISIS monster that Trump had to finally bring to destruction years later.  Let's face it.  Politicians want credit however they can get it.  If you're stuck with lemons, make lemonade. 

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #441 on: April 01, 2020, 09:05:13 pm »

And the beat goes on....

And people continue to die.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #442 on: April 01, 2020, 09:15:54 pm »

Russia lands 60 tons of medical equipment at JFK Airport in NYC to help fight Covid-19.  In exchange, Trump allows Putin to keep Ukraine which he's glad to get rid of after the impeachment. (The second part I made up.  So remain calm. )  :)

Russian plane with coronavirus medical gear lands in U.S. after Trump-Putin call
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/russian-plane-coronavirus-medical-gear-lands-u-s-after-trump-n1174436

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #443 on: April 01, 2020, 09:16:07 pm »

Instead of a statement, here's an honest question for liberals and conservatives alike. (Even a few liberals play golf. Like Obama.)

My golf club has a policy of allowing people on the course but only if (a) you walk -- no carts, which could be contaminated. (b) You don't come within 6 yards of another golfer. (3) You have you bring your own clubs -- there are no people in the storage areas to retrieve them. You're allowed to use the practice chipping and putting areas if (a) you bring your own balls, and don't exchange balls with anyone, (b) you don't get within 6 yards of another player. Again, no carts.

Arizona (where I don't live) is currently having a controversy about golf courses being allowed to remain open. Do you think the courses should be closed as a matter of solidarity with the rest of the country which has no such outlet? Or that they should be allowed to remain open under conditions outlined above? Is this a richie-richie v. proletarian kind of controversy, even though the biggest golf courses around here are (a) public or (b) operated by casinos at cheap prices? Is this controversy aimed at Trump, who, by actual count, has been in office 1,167 days (as of April Fool's Day) and has, by actual count, on that day, played 117 rounds of golf at an approximate cost to the taxpayers of $133,000,000?* (There are actual websites who keep track of these things, easily found on the net.)

Anyway, should golf be banned?
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #444 on: April 01, 2020, 09:46:15 pm »

Instead of a statement, here's an honest question for liberals and conservatives alike. (Even a few liberals play golf. Like Obama.)

My golf club has a policy of allowing people on the course but only if (a) you walk -- no carts, which could be contaminated. (b) You don't come within 6 yards of another golfer. (3) You have you bring your own clubs -- there are no people in the storage areas to retrieve them. You're allowed to use the practice chipping and putting areas if (a) you bring your own balls, and don't exchange balls with anyone, (b) you don't get within 6 yards of another player. Again, no carts.

Arizona (where I don't live) is currently having a controversy about golf courses being allowed to remain open. Do you think the courses should be closed as a matter of solidarity with the rest of the country which has no such outlet? Or that they should be allowed to remain open under conditions outlined above? Is this a richie-richie v. proletarian kind of controversy, even though the biggest golf courses around here are (a) public or (b) operated by casinos at cheap prices? Is this controversy aimed at Trump, who, by actual count, has been in office 1,167 days (as of April Fool's Day) and has, by actual count, on that day, played 117 rounds of golf at an approximate cost to the taxpayers of $133,000,000?* (There are actual websites who keep track of these things, easily found on the net.)

Anyway, should golf be banned?

Probably, yeah, for the time being.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #445 on: April 01, 2020, 09:52:45 pm »

Instead of a statement, here's an honest question for liberals and conservatives alike. (Even a few liberals play golf. Like Obama.)

My golf club has a policy of allowing people on the course but only if (a) you walk -- no carts, which could be contaminated. (b) You don't come within 6 yards of another golfer. (3) You have you bring your own clubs -- there are no people in the storage areas to retrieve them. You're allowed to use the practice chipping and putting areas if (a) you bring your own balls, and don't exchange balls with anyone, (b) you don't get within 6 yards of another player. Again, no carts.

Arizona (where I don't live) is currently having a controversy about golf courses being allowed to remain open. Do you think the courses should be closed as a matter of solidarity with the rest of the country which has no such outlet? Or that they should be allowed to remain open under conditions outlined above? Is this a richie-richie v. proletarian kind of controversy, even though the biggest golf courses around here are (a) public or (b) operated by casinos at cheap prices? Is this controversy aimed at Trump, who, by actual count, has been in office 1,167 days (as of April Fool's Day) and has, by actual count, on that day, played 117 rounds of golf at an approximate cost to the taxpayers of $133,000,000?* (There are actual websites who keep track of these things, easily found on the net.)

Anyway, should golf be banned?

First, lets keep in mind Obama was an avid golfer as well, so I do not think it is fair to criticize Trump for playing.  Nor do I feel we should criticize Obama either. 

But anyway, I would agree with your club's rules and feel golf should not be banned.  I cant think of a better sport for social distancing.  Of course, those rules do make it hard to play with someone else; 6 yards is quite the distance for camaraderie and if you're out of shape, walking could be an issue. 

That being said, I always walk the course and I have a full set of clubs, so those rules are not much of an issue for me.  Actually I am wishing they would do this in PA. 

Now I could see an argument that it is a richie-richie v. proletarian controversy since not everyone owns their own clubs, but I would classify this as a weak uniformed argument since most who golf have their own clubs.  I have yet to meet anyone who golfs without his/her own clubs. 

Actually the absurdity of this is rich where I live.  I have a city owned course a block from my house, and they closed the course.  Not only that, but they are having someone patrol the course every hour to make sure no one has come to play.  However, since it is city owned and part of the Wissahickon Park, they cant stop you from hiking it.  So, if I wanted to, I could hike the course and they couldn't do anything to stop me, but if I swung a club, I would get in trouble.  LOL


PS: the idea that we should ban golf for the time being for solidarity with the country I feel is the equivalent to banning all sports just because head trauma is an issue with football.  It makes no sense and strikes me as a reason all bureaucracies suck.  Certain activities need to be banned right now, but others have a very low to zero cause for concern and should not be.  My wife and I are planning a few bike rides this month on the nicer days.  We may not be golfing, but we are not staying inside for the next month, and I dont know how anyone can expect anyone else to either.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #446 on: April 01, 2020, 09:57:31 pm »

Anyway, should golf be banned?
Since women in Arizona are allowed to go to the hairdresser, I see no reason men in Arizona should not be allowed to play golf.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #447 on: April 01, 2020, 09:58:40 pm »

Instead of a statement, here's an honest question for liberals and conservatives alike. (Even a few liberals play golf. Like Obama.)

My golf club has a policy of allowing people on the course but only if (a) you walk -- no carts, which could be contaminated. (b) You don't come within 6 yards of another golfer. (3) You have you bring your own clubs -- there are no people in the storage areas to retrieve them. You're allowed to use the practice chipping and putting areas if (a) you bring your own balls, and don't exchange balls with anyone, (b) you don't get within 6 yards of another player. Again, no carts.

Arizona (where I don't live) is currently having a controversy about golf courses being allowed to remain open. Do you think the courses should be closed as a matter of solidarity with the rest of the country which has no such outlet? Or that they should be allowed to remain open under conditions outlined above? Is this a richie-richie v. proletarian kind of controversy, even though the biggest golf courses around here are (a) public or (b) operated by casinos at cheap prices? Is this controversy aimed at Trump, who, by actual count, has been in office 1,167 days (as of April Fool's Day) and has, by actual count, on that day, played 117 rounds of golf at an approximate cost to the taxpayers of $133,000,000?* (There are actual websites who keep track of these things, easily found on the net.)

Anyway, should golf be banned?
We have a 9 hole course in my 55+ community.  But I don't play golf.  I assume some people here would play golf on their own when it gets a little warmer (NJ).  There are people walking every morning in the streets but they stay away from each other.  Bicyclists, dog walkers.  I don't see the problem if you use common sense and stay away from everyone and don;t get into fights with other golfers.  :)   Of course, in a larger course there would be more activity. So that might be a problem.

Last week I went to a nearby public park to shoot some photos.  I was by myself and stayed away from everyone.  There were couples there, some families, single dog walkers.  The playgrounds were taped off by the town bu some people were using them anyway.  Of course, they may have changed the rules this week.  I don't know.  COnsidering how bad it is in NJ (worst place after NY), I might not go out to shoot.  But there are lots of people out.  Today, I went to pick up pre-order and paid for food curbside at an Italian grocer.  We couldn't get anything from regular supermarkets but the smaller grocer was very accomodating and speedy.  They brought the food out  to my car in a wagon and I loaded the stuff into it wearing gloves.  Frankly I wouldn't shop in a supermarket now.  It's just too dangerous being around people, I feel.  I spray all the bags with 91% isopropyl alcohol when I got home.

One advantage of playing golf with the new distances, no one can verify your score.  :)

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #448 on: April 01, 2020, 10:24:33 pm »

Instead of a statement, here's an honest question for liberals and conservatives alike. (Even a few liberals play golf. Like Obama.)

My golf club has a policy of allowing people on the course but only if (a) you walk -- no carts, which could be contaminated. (b) You don't come within 6 yards of another golfer. (3) You have you bring your own clubs -- there are no people in the storage areas to retrieve them. You're allowed to use the practice chipping and putting areas if (a) you bring your own balls, and don't exchange balls with anyone, (b) you don't get within 6 yards of another player. Again, no carts.

Arizona (where I don't live) is currently having a controversy about golf courses being allowed to remain open. Do you think the courses should be closed as a matter of solidarity with the rest of the country which has no such outlet? Or that they should be allowed to remain open under conditions outlined above? Is this a richie-richie v. proletarian kind of controversy, even though the biggest golf courses around here are (a) public or (b) operated by casinos at cheap prices? Is this controversy aimed at Trump, who, by actual count, has been in office 1,167 days (as of April Fool's Day) and has, by actual count, on that day, played 117 rounds of golf at an approximate cost to the taxpayers of $133,000,000?* (There are actual websites who keep track of these things, easily found on the net.)

Anyway, should golf be banned?

I'm still thinking about your golf question but thought I'd mention that the US reached 1000+ deaths today according to Worldometer (see last chart on https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/). You were speculating the other day that reaching this number might turn out to be a significant milestone. I hope it turns back down soon.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #449 on: April 01, 2020, 10:38:05 pm »

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #450 on: April 01, 2020, 11:08:55 pm »

First, lets keep in mind Obama was an avid golfer as well, so I do not think it is fair to criticize Trump for playing.  Nor do I feel we should criticize Obama either. 

The problem is that *Trump* insisted on criticizing Obama for golfing.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #451 on: April 01, 2020, 11:10:48 pm »

Very sad indeed.  Needless to say, I expect more.   

Pennsylvania man who lost job amid coronavirus pandemic shoots girlfriend before killing self

I’ll never understand why people feel the urge to take someone with them.
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« Reply #452 on: April 01, 2020, 11:16:09 pm »

I’ll never understand why people feel the urge to take someone with them.

Some were brainwashed by church that the next stop is heaven.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #453 on: April 01, 2020, 11:43:16 pm »

I'm still thinking about your golf question but thought I'd mention that the US reached 1000+ deaths today according to Worldometer (see last chart on https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/). You were speculating the other day that reaching this number might turn out to be a significant milestone. I hope it turns back down soon.

Yeah, I saw that. And I saw it coming. It'll be 2,000 a day in less than a week.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #454 on: April 02, 2020, 01:52:14 am »

I’ll never understand why people feel the urge to take someone with them.

More to come

https://abc7.com/lomita-fatal-shooting-triple-homicide-3-men-killed/6061073/

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #455 on: April 02, 2020, 02:55:21 am »

Anyway, should golf be banned?

No, just close the 19th hole ...
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« Reply #456 on: April 02, 2020, 04:30:26 am »

Hairdressers in Arizona, shootings in Penn.  Tales of partying in Florida.  Hairdressers in UK are shut, there will be lots of long hair soon.

Perhaps this is a reflection of different cultural attitudes and the level of state and federal control, e.g. the American cherished attitude to personal freedom vs the high level of state control in China.

Best wishes,

Jonathan
 

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #457 on: April 02, 2020, 06:33:58 am »

... Anyway, should golf be banned?

Absolutely not. We need whatever we can to preserve some sense of normalcy.

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #459 on: April 02, 2020, 07:22:17 am »

The problem is that *Trump* insisted on criticizing Obama for golfing.

Well, if that is the case, then ...

I'm not one for hypocrisy. 

Here's the deal though, if who ever succeeds Trump criticizing him for golfing and then he/she golfs while in office, should it still be open season? 
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