COVID-19 updates

[armand]

Dream on TDS'er...

For days now the complaints were that the feds were not having supplies shipped to them first then sent to the states and thathe states were bidding against the feds.  So not the Feds are making the orders and an havis supplies shipped to them first, before sending them to the states.  So now we have States, at least Michigan complaning the Feds are getting them first.

Its lose loss no matter what Trump does when it comes to those with TDS.

How about you read again, you know, use the reading skills that you so generously recommend to others?

I'm holding final judgement until this is confirmed or not, but the idea was that they were told not to deal with Michigan in the detriment of other states where the governors are friendlier to him. And there was another comment he made in regards to the governors having to be nice to him in order to get help so there could be some truth to this.

So, if the above were true, I really want to see how you or anybody could justify it.

[faberryman]

Dream on TDS'er...

For days now the complaints were that the feds were not having supplies shipped to them first then sent to the states and thathe states were bidding against the feds.  So not the Feds are making the orders and an havis supplies shipped to them first, before sending them to the states.  So now we have States, at least Michigan complaning the Feds are getting them first.

Its lose loss no matter what Trump does when it comes to those with TDS.

The only rational thing to do under the circumstances is to refrain from sending life saving equipment and supplies to states whose governors complain.

[Craig Lamson]

The only rational thing to do under the circumstances is to refrain from sending life saving equipment and supplies to states whose governors complain.

Are you sure thats happening or are you yet another victim of the Fake News Media, and Fake Govenors?

From a source trusted by lefties...CNN in an article about this situation:

"A Federal Emergency Management Agency spokesperson noted in an email to CNN that a shipment for medical supplies from the Strategic National Stockpile was last shipped to Michigan on March 22 and contained N95 respirator face masks, surgical masks, face shields, surgical gowns and gloves."

[armand]

Are you sure thats happening or are you yet another victim of the Fake News Media, and Fake Govenors?

As I said (twice already), I want to see confirmation; you cannot possibly justify this is if is true. What's next, no help for states that voted Democrat?

[Craig Lamson]

As I said (twice already), I want to see confirmation but you cannot possibly justify this is it is true. What's next, no help for states that voted Democrat?

Why not do some actual research yourself?

In case you missed the edited post above.

From CNN:


A Federal Emergency Management Agency spokesperson noted in an email to CNN that a shipment for medical supplies from the Strategic National Stockpile was last shipped to Michigan on March 22 and contained N95 respirator face masks, surgical masks, face shields, surgical gowns and gloves.

[armand]

Why not do some actual research yourself?

In case you missed the edited post above.

From CNN:


A Federal Emergency Management Agency spokesperson noted in an email to CNN that a shipment for medical supplies from the Strategic National Stockpile was last shipped to Michigan on March 22 and contained N95 respirator face masks, surgical masks, face shields, surgical gowns and gloves.

This did not refer to the Strategic National Stockpile.
First paragraph from the article (bold is done by me):

President Donald Trump’s latest target, Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, told a radio station Friday that medical supply vendors informed her they’ve been told “not to send stuff” to her state amid the battle against COVID-19

[Craig Lamson]

How about you read again, you know, use the reading skills that you so generously recommend to others?

I'm holding final judgement until this is confirmed or not, but the idea was that they were told not to deal with Michigan in the detriment of other states where the governors are friendlier to him. And there was another comment he made in regards to the governors having to be nice to him in order to get help so there could be some truth to this.

So, if the above were true, I really want to see how you or anybody could justify it.

If you had listened to the Trump team press conference yesterday you would know that there has been a shift in tactics to move away from a blanket process to a more targeted one meaning they would assess needs by state and even to a county level and send help as needed based on that assessment. 

Maybe actually knowing whats going on before commenting might be wise in your case.

[Craig Lamson]

This did not refer to the Strategic National Stockpile.
First paragraph from the article:

Who said anything about the stockpile?  I know you just got handed your hat (again) but trying to shift the conversation only makes you look silly.

[armand]

If you had listened to the Trump tean press conference yesterday you would know that there has been a shift in tactics to move away from a blanket process to a more targeted one menaing they would asses needs by state and even to a county level and send help as needed based on that assessment. 

Maybe actually knowing whats going on before commenting might be wise in your case.

But I did when he said the governors have to be friendly, that's a "two way street". That's the smoke that made me post the article.

And you can't stop making personal comments, can you? I wonder what gives you this illusion of grandeur about yourself?

[armand]

Who said anything about the stockpile?  I know you just got handed your hat (again) but trying to shift the conversation only makes you look silly.

Are you actually awake? Your quote:

Why not do some actual research yourself?

In case you missed the edited post above.

From CNN:


A Federal Emergency Management Agency spokesperson noted in an email to CNN that a shipment for medical supplies from the Strategic National Stockpile was last shipped to Michigan on March 22 and contained N95 respirator face masks, surgical masks, face shields, surgical gowns and gloves.

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

If you had listened to the Trump team press conference yesterday you would know that there has been a shift in tactics to move away from a blanket process to a more targeted one meaning they would assess needs by state and even to a county level and send help as needed based on that assessment. 

Maybe actually knowing whats going on before commenting might be wise in your case.

Do you have a link to the assessment for Michigan, why not to send supplies?

[Craig Lamson]

Buy I did when he said the governors have to be friendly, that's a "two way street". That's the smoke that made me post the article.

And you can't stop making personal comments, can you? I wonder what gives you this illusion of grandeur about yourself?

So instead of actully looking to see what might be the truth you instead went on your usual Trump sucks and needs to be gone rant.  Ok. got it. Standard practice for you.

Maybe you should be a little more careful or maybe do a bit of research before you post your TDS rants. 

[Craig Lamson]

Are you actually awake? Your quote:

Point taken.

So instead of shipping supplies directly to the states the Feds, doing what many of the states wanted, are doing justt that..getting the supplies and then shipping to the states.  So whats the problem again besides TDS?

[Alan Klein]

How about you read again, you know, use the reading skills that you so generously recommend to others?

I'm holding final judgement until this is confirmed or not, but the idea was that they were told not to deal with Michigan in the detriment of other states where the governors are friendlier to him. And there was another comment he made in regards to the governors having to be nice to him in order to get help so there could be some truth to this.

So, if the above were true, I really want to see how you or anybody could justify it.

You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar.

[Craig Lamson]

Do you have a link to the assessment for Michigan, why not to send supplies?

No I don't but the Feds DID send supplies, on the 22nd.  See above.

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

No I don't but the Feds DID send supplies, on the 22nd.  See above.

The quote from Governor Whitmer seems to refer to an event around the 26th or 27th, not the 22nd.

President Donald Trump’s latest target, Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, told a radio station Friday that medical supply vendors informed her they’ve been told “not to send stuff” to her state amid the battle against COVID-19.

[Craig Lamson]

As I said (twice already), I want to see confirmation; you cannot possibly justify this is if is true. What's next, no help for states that voted Democrat?

Lets see how your vaunted logic holds up based on this post?

Trump helps California? Check
Trump helps New York? Check
Trump helps Washington State? Check

[Craig Lamson]

The quote from Governor Whitmer seems to refer to an event around the 26th or 27th, not the 22nd.

Whats the point?  We have no idea when or even IF what she said is true?  She has offered no proof as least as far as I can see.

So when was she told she was not getting shipments from vendors?  When she made the statement is pretty much meaningless without context.

[Alan Klein]

Do you have a link to the assessment for Michigan, why not to send supplies?

The Federal government wants to hold on to supplies until there is a need in a particular state.  If they send them to Michigan just because they're being asked by them, then let's say Oklahoma need them.  The feds won't have the stuff to send them and won't be able to get them back from Michigan to transfer to Oklahoma.  EVery state wants to have extra supplies.  That's natural to ask for them. But there isn't enough to go around. 

NYS governor Cuomo did the same thing Trump did. When he got 4000 ventilators from Trump, he stored them in a NYS supply dump in Edison, New Jersey.  When he was asked why then is he complaining about Trump, his answer was they're storing them until later when they really need them.  So he's doing on a state level what the feds are doing on a national level.

Unfortunately, there's a lot of jockeying for political position going on right now because of the election.  Getting slightly off subject. this is why I'm against national health care.  Who would trust the government to really care about their health?  You gotta be nuts.  This whole clusterf$$k is a perfect example.  The whole federal government and all of the state were not prepared.  Very little time and energy and supplies were saved for a rainy day.

[armand]

So instead of actully looking to see what might be the truth you instead went on your usual Trump sucks and needs to be gone rant.  Ok. got it. Standard practice for you.

Maybe you should be a little more careful or maybe do a bit of research before you post your TDS rants.

The truth here cannot be found on the internet. Right now is she says, he says. Until another involved party confirms or denies this you can do all the search. Again, this is not about the Feds sending supplies (which aren't anywhere close to enough, the East side of Michigan is swamped). When he says the governors have to be friendly to him it's already a red flag. Concerning enough to post this, regardless if you disagree.

You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar.

I saw this quoted by others. While technically it's true and ideally they should work together in harmony, not linking the governor it's irrelevant to who should get help. This is not about egos but about the people who are in need, regardless of where they are and who they support.

Lets see how your vaunted logic holds up based on this post?

Trump helps California? Check
Trump helps New York? Check
Trump helps Washington State? Check

Define help. Did he do what's expected from a US President? And this is about a specific situation. But you will drag this where you are comfortable regardless.