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Slobodan Blagojevic

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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #60 on: July 12, 2019, 01:18:27 pm »

Besides the fact that that was not based on scientific evidence, and Al Gore is not a scientist either...

The UN report was based on science. Gore's claim was based on a scientific report. I just don't know what science AOC was smoking for her 12-year prognosis.

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« Reply #61 on: July 12, 2019, 01:21:43 pm »

I just don't know what science AOC was smoking for her 12-year prognosis.
I believe she said she was joking, but the climate change deniers jumped all over it.
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« Reply #62 on: July 12, 2019, 01:25:22 pm »

And now they say that even the air traffic will be affected by rising emissions.

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In April, the international president of the Association of Flight Attendants wrote a commentary on the Vox website noting an association between climate change and an increase in the frequency and intensity of air turbulence.

"Research indicates that rising CO2 levels in the atmosphere cause disruptions to the jet streams and create dangerous wind shears that greatly increase turbulence, especially at moderate latitudes where the majority of air travel occurs," Sara Nelson wrote. "For flight attendants and passengers alike, that dangerous, shaky feeling in midair comes from air currents shifting."

She added that clear-air turbulence, also known as CAT, is the most dangerous.

"It cannot be seen and is virtually undetectable with current technology," Nelson noted. "One second, you’re cruising smoothly; the next, passengers and crew are being thrown around the cabin. For flight attendants, who are often in the aisles, these incidents pose a serious occupational risk.""

https://www.straight.com/life/1265566/clear-air-turbulence-linked-past-climate-change-injures-35-people-air-canada-flight
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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #63 on: July 12, 2019, 01:32:30 pm »

"the international president of the Association of Flight Attendants"

You mean an association of glorified bartenders, just like AOC, is engaged in a scientific analysis of CO2 impact? Good Lord!

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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #64 on: July 12, 2019, 01:33:31 pm »

I believe she said she was joking...

If you accept that everything she says is a joke, then I agree with you.
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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #65 on: July 12, 2019, 01:36:49 pm »

If you accept that everything she says is a joke, than I agree with you.
Not that I am a fan, but I do think some of what she says is to bait the right, which just can't resist. They would be better off ignoring her.
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« Reply #66 on: July 12, 2019, 01:39:11 pm »

"the international president of the Association of Flight Attendants"

You mean an association of glorified bartenders, just like AOC, is engaged in a scientific analysis of CO2 impact? Good Lord!

As a matter of fact, on my last flight to Miami, I also experienced a bad case of air-turbulence. Just to be on safe side, next time I'm driving.
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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #67 on: July 12, 2019, 01:39:46 pm »

You mean you have proof that their assessment is incorrect, or what do you mean?

Cheers,
Bart

That's not the question Bart. Nobody has to "prove" a negative. It's up to the "assessors" to prove their "assessment." They're guessing. I'm guessing. I'd bet, based on the history of these things, that my guess is right and theirs is wrong.
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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #68 on: July 12, 2019, 01:40:43 pm »

As a matter of fact, on my last flight to Miami, I also experienced a bad case of air-turbulence. Just to be on safe side, next time I'm driving.

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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #69 on: July 12, 2019, 01:43:29 pm »

As a matter of fact, on my last flight to Miami, I also experienced a bad case of air-turbulence...

You sure it wasn't the pre-flight visit to a Taco Bell?

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« Reply #70 on: July 12, 2019, 01:50:41 pm »

At least you admit it is happening.
I haven't admitted anything. What it seems like is that the climate is warming up. But I don't know if that's just a perturbation that will reverse itself in ten or a hundred years or that is increasing for the Long Haul.  But whether it's being caused by nature or man or both again I don't know. What I do know and I've expressed it in our last thread a couple years ago over and over again, is that we're not looking at warming as a balance of good and bad. We're focusing on only the bed which is a big mistake. We have to be honest about what's going on and look at the good as well otherwise we're going to make poor decisions on what to do one way or the other.

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« Reply #71 on: July 12, 2019, 01:51:20 pm »

You sure it wasn't the pre-flight visit to a Taco Bell?
Nah, I'm sticking to clean, good quality food.
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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #72 on: July 14, 2019, 04:43:12 am »

To survive in a wetter world, farmers in Bangladesh are adapting to climate change, and are switching from raising chickens to ducks.

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The advantages of ducks for farmers such as Akter are several. Chickens catch infections much more easily than ducks do when they get wet, too hot, or too cold.

The Haors, the wetlands where Akter lives, used to have regular rains, says Miganur Rahman, a BRAC staffer, but now precipitation is unpredictable. There are periods of both unexpected flooding and drought. This has a big impact on paddy farmers: When the rain comes too early, they cannot harvest their crops, and lose their investment.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/07/bangladesh-climate-change-floods-ducks/593581/
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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #73 on: July 14, 2019, 08:40:05 am »

This, from two brief showers brough to Mallorca by southern winds bearing Sahara dust. I have experienced it every year, but never quite as strongly.

The car had just been washed two days before.

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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #74 on: July 14, 2019, 09:26:11 am »

That’s why my previous car was golden metallic. Not gaudy golden, I think the official name was “desert sand mica.” Had to wash it every... year. My daughter likes black, and it seems it needs washing every... day.

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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #75 on: July 14, 2019, 09:30:45 am »

... farmers in Bangladesh are adapting to climate change...

So much smarter, those farmers, than the loonie left who would rather eliminate humanity to save the planet than adapt.

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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #76 on: July 14, 2019, 09:31:38 am »

My white Prius needs washing every day.

But it gets washed about once a year.   :(
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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #77 on: July 14, 2019, 09:46:38 am »

We have paved roads here, so my blue van doesn't need washing at all.
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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #78 on: July 14, 2019, 10:35:02 am »

To survive in a wetter world, farmers in Bangladesh are adapting to climate change, and are switching from raising chickens to ducks.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/07/bangladesh-climate-change-floods-ducks/593581/
Man adapts and will learn to deal with climate change as they always have.  So will other species.  The polar bear will turn brown as it again forages on land for food. etc.

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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #79 on: July 14, 2019, 10:43:14 am »

My white Prius needs washing every day.

But it gets washed about once a year.   :(

It's a Zen thing.

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