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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #640 on: August 03, 2019, 10:55:56 am »


Of course; is that anchor the lifestyle you desire?

I thought you guys were all about freedom to think and work outside the box, express yourselves and to travel...

All situation ethics, then?

:-)

Indeed, two legs good, four legs bad.
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #641 on: August 03, 2019, 11:06:50 am »

... four legs bad.

Depends on which side you approach it ;)

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #642 on: August 03, 2019, 11:13:25 am »

... I thought you guys were all about freedom to think and work outside the box, express yourselves and to travel...

Oh, but you see, Rob, we will continue to travel, our next destination, as Alan already demonstrated, is precisely Britain, with its weak pound. Nobody prevents you guys from traveling, you'd just need to work harder for that privilege ;)

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #643 on: August 03, 2019, 12:55:27 pm »

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #644 on: August 03, 2019, 03:22:43 pm »

Oh, but you see, Rob, we will continue to travel, our next destination, as Alan already demonstrated, is precisely Britain, with its weak pound. Nobody prevents you guys from traveling, you'd just need to work harder for that privilege ;)


The Brexiteer mentality: it's close to the US one as expressed in the Chuck Berry song: "everything you want it you got it in the USA." Only the names need changed.

Why go to Britain at all? You wouldn't even like the beer.

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #645 on: August 03, 2019, 03:30:53 pm »

... Why go to Britain at all? You wouldn't even like the beer.

Oh, but I do... Newcastle (Brown Ale) is my favorite. I just do not like the piss-warm temperature they serve it in Britain ;)

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #646 on: August 03, 2019, 06:00:52 pm »

Oh, but I do... Newcastle (Brown Ale) is my favorite. I just do not like the piss-warm temperature they serve it in Britain ;)
Maybe because you are in that P... warm Miami ?
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #647 on: August 03, 2019, 10:06:03 pm »

Heck no. Even the Lao put ice in Beer Lao. ;D ;)
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #648 on: August 04, 2019, 03:49:59 am »

Oh, but I do... Newcastle (Brown Ale) is my favorite. I just do not like the piss-warm temperature they serve it in Britain ;)


That's obviously my point: it's not cold enough for your tastes. What makes you imagine they're going to change a thing for you?

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #649 on: August 09, 2019, 12:49:00 pm »

Hehe...

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #650 on: August 17, 2019, 09:32:50 pm »

I can't imagine the staid British rioting.
"Boris Johnson urged to release secret official Brexit memo warning ministers about riots, soaring food prices and a deep recession"
https://www.insider.com/boris-johnson-told-to-release-secret-no-deal-breixit-doomsday-memo-2019-8

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #651 on: August 18, 2019, 02:35:00 am »

I can't imagine the staid British rioting.

Believe it.

ANOTHER leaked No Deal Brexit dossier predicts fuel, food and medicine shortages, port chaos and Irish border disruption on Oct 31 as Boris Johnson vows to crash out the EU if necessary

The Sunday Times today published the full dossier on the so called Operation Yellowhammer.
It’s behind a paywall but, for many, registration should give you access.

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An unprecedented leak of government documents has exposed gaps in no-deal Brexit contingency planning that could leave Britain facing shortages of fuel, food and medicine, a three-month meltdown at its ports, a hard border with Ireland and rising costs in social care. The Sunday Times has obtained the government's classified "Yellowhammer"  report in full.

They’ve also initiated a poll, still early , but so far ... see attached
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #652 on: August 18, 2019, 03:48:48 am »

I can't imagine the staid British rioting.
Which just demonstrates how little you know about the UK.

eg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_tax_riots
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #653 on: August 18, 2019, 03:53:59 am »

I can't imagine the staid British rioting.


That's what you get from believing tv series.

The Brits can be - and are - as bolshie as anyone else. Step of their toes and see what you get back. They have as many demonstrations as anywhere else, and quite their quotient of violence, mob or individual.

Rob

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #654 on: August 18, 2019, 06:25:36 am »

ANOTHER leaked No Deal Brexit dossier predicts fuel, food and medicine shortages, port chaos and Irish border disruption on Oct 31 as Boris Johnson vows to crash out the EU if necessary

The leaked document deals with contingency planning, which includes addressing "worst case" scenarios. It would be deeply worrying if no such plans were in place.

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #655 on: August 18, 2019, 07:15:58 am »

The leaked document deals with contingency planning, which includes addressing "worst case" scenarios. It would be deeply worrying if no such plans were in place.

Indeed it does, as the first line of the quote box in my post clearly states.

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Britain faces shortages of fuel, food and medicine, a three-month meltdown at its ports, a hard border with Ireland and rising costs in social care in the event of a no-deal Brexit, according to an unprecedented leak of government documents that lay bare the gaps in contingency planning.

The documents, which set out the most likely aftershocks of a no-deal Brexit rather than worst-case scenarios, have emerged as the UK looks increasingly likely to crash out of the EU without a deal.

Compiled this month by the Cabinet Office under the codename Operation Yellowhammer, the dossier offers a rare glimpse into the covert planning being carried out by the government to avert a catastrophic collapse in the nation’s infrastructure.

A senior Whitehall source said: “This is not Project Fear — this is the most realistic assessment of what the public face with no deal. These are likely, basic, reasonable scenarios — not the worst case.”

’Black Swan‘ is the codename for worst-case-scenario planning.
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #656 on: August 18, 2019, 08:30:29 am »

Ford is lagging behind with electrification.

What is the basis for this statement?  On a recent trip to Banff we had a Ford Fusion hybrid that we rented in Calgary.  We drove it for five days and barely used 1/3 tank of gas.  I should have noted the mileage to calculate fuel efficiency.  It was quiet and had a nice build quality.  I am not discounting the future of hybrid vehicles as they are not reliant on charging stations.  Not having any experience with an all-electric vehicle I wonder what the cost of charging is.  How long does it take to fully charge a battery?  Can battery powered large trucks be built?  Additionally, what is the long term battery life?  I just had to replace my cell phone as the battery was beginning to die and this was only with 2.5 years of use.  We keep our traditional gas fired Hondas for 12-13 years and they run just fine with no drop in fuel efficiency.  Can the same be said about an electric car?
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #657 on: August 18, 2019, 08:48:12 am »

Which just demonstrates how little you know about the UK.

eg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_tax_riots
It appears the British don't have good luck with taxes. When they imposed them on the British colonies over here, we revolted and started our Revolutionary War with them.

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #658 on: August 18, 2019, 08:57:59 am »

What is the basis for this statement?  On a recent trip to Banff we had a Ford Fusion hybrid that we rented in Calgary.  We drove it for five days and barely used 1/3 tank of gas.  I should have noted the mileage to calculate fuel efficiency.  It was quiet and had a nice build quality.  I am not discounting the future of hybrid vehicles as they are not reliant on charging stations.  Not having any experience with an all-electric vehicle I wonder what the cost of charging is.  How long does it take to fully charge a battery?  Can battery powered large trucks be built?  Additionally, what is the long term battery life?  I just had to replace my cell phone as the battery was beginning to die and this was only with 2.5 years of use.  We keep our traditional gas fired Hondas for 12-13 years and they run just fine with no drop in fuel efficiency.  Can the same be said about an electric car?
When I worked for NYC government, they had a fleet of Toyota Priuses, also hybrids.  So I got a chance to use them a lot. They were peppy and nice to drive around the city traffic.  However, they were expensive relative to cars with the same features.  It's cost for the battery takes away value that gasoline powered cars can have in extra comfort features that make a car more desirable from a luxury standpoint, at the same price. Full electrics are even worse as they're totally reliant on electric and the battery is even more expensive.  Also, I can't see them holding resale value.  The battery has to be changed in 10 years making it expensive to service for the next buyer.  Of the two, I'd rather go with a hybrid.  You don't have to worry about electric charging stations (location and speed to recharge) or the limited driving range of full electrics. 

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #659 on: August 18, 2019, 09:48:26 am »

When I worked for NYC government, they had a fleet of Toyota Priuses, also hybrids.  So I got a chance to use them a lot. They were peppy and nice to drive around the city traffic.  However, they were expensive relative to cars with the same features.  It's cost for the battery takes away value that gasoline powered cars can have in extra comfort features that make a car more desirable from a luxury standpoint, at the same price. Full electrics are even worse as they're totally reliant on electric and the battery is even more expensive.  Also, I can't see them holding resale value.  The battery has to be changed in 10 years making it expensive to service for the next buyer.  Of the two, I'd rather go with a hybrid.  You don't have to worry about electric charging stations (location and speed to recharge) or the limited driving range of full electrics.

Almost all short-term talk about prices is a waste of time. The prices of consumer goods depend primarily on production volumes. Remember when everyone predicted that we'd never have large numbers of  "full-frame" digicams. Priuses are expensive compared to Cruzes for similar reasons that Porsches are.

Remember when people said that introducing pollution controls in cars would destroy the industry. You don't hear them complaining about being able to breath the air in our cities now, do you?

And comparing technologies without fully accounting for historic subsidies of sunset industries and unaccounted-for "externalities" is basically propaganda. Koch Industries has loads of lobbyests on the payroll to propagate this tripe. Read past the con.

It's not what things cost that matters, it's what value you're getting. And it's also what it costs NOT to spend the money.
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