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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #340 on: January 26, 2020, 10:37:51 am »

Why don't you take the AF-P 70-300 instead of the 70-200 f/4?

Iím in a somewhat similar situation and I contemplated buying the 70-300 (I have the 70-200 F4) but weight wise you donít lose that much, and you still have to use the FTZ adapter. The 70-300 with FTZ is 83% of the weight of the 70-200 with FTZ (and 87% of the length). In absolute terms 170g.
The main advantage would be the extra 200-300mm if you donít need F4.

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« Reply #341 on: January 26, 2020, 12:05:40 pm »

Why don't you take the AF-P 70-300 instead of the 70-200 f/4?

I'm lens poor and have too many (though I'm tempted in the 70-200 Z), including both the 70-200 and 80-200 2.8 in addition to the previous 70-300 and too many more... the man I mentor has the 70-300p he purchased for his D850 and I think he's using it on his Z7. I may have to go out shooting with him and give it a try.

Most of my work is wide-to short telephoto so for now when I need a little more reach I'm using the 24-120 on the FTZ along with the 70-200 and both are more than adequate though each new lens seems to takes a different size filter.

Oh for the days of the oid Nikon where 52mm filters were the king! :-)
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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #342 on: January 26, 2020, 12:08:41 pm »

Iím in a somewhat similar situation and I contemplated buying the 70-300 (I have the 70-200 F4) but weight wise you donít lose that much, and you still have to use the FTZ adapter. The 70-300 with FTZ is 83% of the weight of the 70-200 with FTZ (and 87% of the length). In absolute terms 170g.
The main advantage would be the extra 200-300mm if you donít need F4.

Good points. The length difference is 32mm. With some shoulder bags, it may be the difference of the lens fitting or not.


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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #343 on: January 26, 2020, 02:36:15 pm »

Peter, see below for a reply I prepared earlier.



Thanks, Keith.  I agree with Rob.  A "cracking" shot.  And a very tempting lens.
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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #344 on: January 26, 2020, 03:05:33 pm »

Thanks, Peter, appreciated.
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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #345 on: January 26, 2020, 03:51:45 pm »

Why don't you take the AF-P 70-300 instead of the 70-200 f/4?

The 70-300 AF-P is surprisingly good for the money! Highly recommended.

Cheers,
Bernard

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« Reply #346 on: February 05, 2020, 07:00:44 am »

Lenstip has started to test the Nikon S line. First lens is the 35mm 1.8.
https://www.lenstip.com/
I like the way they test for they do it in a comparable fashion taking many points into account.
The test is not overall good; as discovered by myself using it - the lens corners are not great.
My 40mm Sigma is still my anchor point. In the corner the 40mm Sigma is better at f1.4 than the nikon lens at f5.6
https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=1392&Camera=979&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=1215&CameraComp=1212&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=4
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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #347 on: February 05, 2020, 07:48:29 am »

Yep, the 35mm f1.8 is probably the least impressive of the Z lenses so far.

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Bernard

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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #348 on: February 05, 2020, 08:28:58 am »

Yep, the 35mm f1.8 is probably the least impressive of the Z lenses so far.

Cheers,
Bernard

Seems strange to me. Is compact or or have something else going for it?
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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #349 on: February 05, 2020, 09:23:46 am »

Seems strange to me. Is compact or or have something else going for it?

I've had no complaints with my copy so far, but yes, given that the other Z lenses I own are exceptional then admittedly and by comparison the 35 is merely very good and certainly good enough for my needs.

;-)

I'm looking forward to getting the compact 40mm Z lens to compliment the compact Z bodies, when it's released.
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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #350 on: February 05, 2020, 09:34:34 am »

Lenstip has started to test the Nikon S line. First lens is the 35mm 1.8.
https://www.lenstip.com/
I like the way they test for they do it in a comparable fashion taking many points into account.
The test is not overall good; as discovered by myself using it - the lens corners are not great.
My 40mm Sigma is still my anchor point. In the corner the 40mm Sigma is better at f1.4 than the nikon lens at f5.6
https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=1392&Camera=979&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=1215&CameraComp=1212&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=4

Lenstip has very thorough reviews but in conclusion the price of the lens vs what they think it should cost determines half of their conclusion or more, regardless of absolute performance. From this point of view I prefer the reviews by opticallimits, unfortunately they are not testing the Z mount lenses yet.

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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #351 on: February 18, 2020, 09:27:24 am »

Any thoughts on the new lenses?

The 20 F1.8 is bigger than I expected but the weight is in line with the 14-30 F4 at ~ 500g. Iím still figuring out the size of the yet to be announced 14-24 F2.8S, looks similar in length to the new 24-200 but with a bigger front element so likely heavier than 600g. Its smaller than the 24-70 F2.8S which weighs ~ 800g though.

The 24-200 is more interesting than I thought initially. IF itís sharp, closer to wide open, then it can be a very good lens for backpacking/hiking where the focus is landscape and not wildlife. I probably wonít use something less than F8 anyway so the max F6.3 is more about bragging rights. Reminds of a story than Thom Hogan had on his site about a hike in Patagonia with Galen Rowell who had a small and cheap telephoto which was good enough though at F8 and it made it easier to hike further.

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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #352 on: February 20, 2020, 05:44:50 am »

Test of the 50mm 1.8 S lens by Lenstip.

https://www.lenstip.com/577.1-Lens_review-Nikon_Nikkor_Z_50_mm_f_1.8_S_Introduction.html

Very positive review, although not perfect.
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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #353 on: March 02, 2020, 05:15:56 pm »

It looks like we have another winner with the Nikon Z 24-200.

https://nikonrumors.com/2020/03/02/nikon-nikkor-z-24-200mm-f-4-6-3-vr-lens-first-look-by-ricci.aspx/

Itís MTF is pretty astonishing for such a lens btw. Better than some primes not that long ago.

As a side comment, Iíd be curious to compare results obtained by this lens on the Z7 to those of the LF camera and lens used by Hansel Adams for some of his best work back in the days at the respective typical working apertures... ;)

Cheers,
Bernard

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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #354 on: March 03, 2020, 09:03:18 am »

It looks like we have another winner with the Nikon Z 24-200.

https://nikonrumors.com/2020/03/02/nikon-nikkor-z-24-200mm-f-4-6-3-vr-lens-first-look-by-ricci.aspx/

Itís MTF is pretty astonishing for such a lens btw. Better than some primes not that long ago.

As a side comment, Iíd be curious to compare results obtained by this lens on the Z7 to those of the LF camera and lens used by Hansel Adams for some of his best work back in the days at the respective typical working apertures... ;)

Cheers,
Bernard

This bodes well for the future 24-105 S!

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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #355 on: March 17, 2020, 08:57:57 am »

A couple from the awful 14-30mm S... ;)






Nikon Z7 + 14-30mm f4 S

Cheers,
Bernard
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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #356 on: March 26, 2020, 06:11:44 pm »

https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=248&t=6044194

Just WOW!

I thought it would be hard to best the Nikon 70-200mm f2.8 E FL (already by far the best 70-200mm f2.8 on the market), but the new S is significantly better. Just check the corner performance at 200mm f2.8... itís simply a perfect lens.

Now we just need this lens to... ship.  ;D

Btw Iíll receive my 20mm f1.8 S today.

Cheers,
Bernard
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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #357 on: April 03, 2020, 07:15:19 am »

https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=248&t=6044194

Just WOW!

I thought it would be hard to best the Nikon 70-200mm f2.8 E FL (already by far the best 70-200mm f2.8 on the market), but the new S is significantly better. Just check the corner performance at 200mm f2.8... itís simply a perfect lens.

Now we just need this lens to... ship.  ;D

If I could actually go out and take photos I'd be quite fed up with the delay. As it is, I suppose it doesn't matter much :-(
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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #358 on: April 03, 2020, 09:22:59 am »

If I could actually go out and take photos I'd be quite fed up with the delay. As it is, I suppose it doesn't matter much :-(

LOL

Cheers,
Bernard

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Re: Z mount native lenses
« Reply #359 on: May 13, 2020, 11:56:24 am »

Rumours of delivery of the 70-200 at the end of May. That will be a relief.  I have a credit at my local camera shop from the sale of my F lenses and itís been tempting to spend it on something else while waiting for Nikon to get their act together!!
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