Hasselblad's "game changer" 22nd of June?

[Paul2660]

I wonder if the lenses are designed to accomidate the crop factor of the sensor? 

I wish them all the best with this.

Paul C

[torger]

There is a marking where the sensor is.

Ahh, then it seems pretty close to 20mm or even shorter. Sony's E-mount is 18mm.

[E.J. Peiker]

I wonder if the lenses are designed to accomidate the crop factor of the sensor? 

I wish them all the best with this.

Paul C

It looks like they are and not much more as the lens mount looks just barely big enough for the sensor.  A larger sensor like the 100mp sensor (assuming this camera is using the 50mp sensor) would require a bigger exit pupil than this mount seems it could support just from looking at the pictures.

[torger]

Let's use these specs. Great camera, great price. Not sure about the focal length of both lenses. What I hoped for was a wide variety adapters for all kind of Medium Format lenses. If I have to buy new lenses again I can wait for the next sony. Which will come sooner rather then later.

Don't get me wrong its a grteat package, but I really wouldn't call it a game changer so far.

As always with Hasselblad (and many other manufacturers) the announce things early, before they can deliver even the camera itself. I would be extremely surprised if not a H-mount adapter comes along, and then other adapters could be made by themselves or third parties if there's substantial demand. And there will of course be an Actus/Arca adapter for this.

[Jlister]

 If this has a Sony quality evf, wifi, and hc lens compatibility via adapter, I'm trading my h5d-50c wifi. What do you think?

[Hulyss]

Bigger

[torger]

If that's 44x33 the system will be limited to that size forever because the sensor already is maxing out the mount diameter.

It's almost certainly that, otherwise the camera requires very big hands :-).

This limit is somewhat expected though, and I'm sure the glass is designed only for 44x33 ("APS-C" lenses). Afterall this is supposed to be a cheaper consumer camera, and not compete with the main system which still is the H6.

Sure we could have wanted to see a 645 full-frame mount, but that would be surprising. The mirrorbox still has a few years left in the pro segment...

[siddhaarta]

All this nice sample photos in SQUARE … the whole design of the camera in SQUARE … this strange focal lengths of 45 and 90 ...

… are we missing something?

[torger]

All this nice sample photos in SQUARE … the whole design of the camera in SQUARE … this strange focal lengths of 45 and 90 ...

… are we missing something?

Hasselblad has always had square crop modes in their V-mount digital backs, even if the sensor shoots 4:3 natively. This camera has square crop mode for sure, and from a marketing perspective it's a good idea to show square images, and I think the design is very successful in making it look classical Hassy. But it's surely a 4:3 camera, just look at the images where you see the sensor. It wouldn't make sense to make a custom 33x33 sensor for this, as it would cost more than the volume-based 44x33 off-the-shelf sensor.

[siddhaarta]

I think you are right … makes sense. Very intelligent design decision, to work with the Hasselblad DNA, they obviously have learned from their Lunar disaster.

it only crossed my mind for a second, they maybe, maybe have made a 56x56.

[JoeKitchen]

I dont understand the obsession with square digital format requiring a square sensor.  It's called cropping!  I have clients who like squares, and that is what we do.  I have a square crop on my viewfinder, I compose the image to square and we crop the sides in C1. 

The reason square format was chosen so many years ago by Hassy, and Rollie, was because their cameras had WLV, and it is quite difficult to shoot a vertical with a WLV without cropping.  It was never meant that square was the format of choose for those cameras. 

Also, since we now live in the digital realm, the "no cropping" rule also makes no sense.  Once again, this principal was more about practicality, not a strict working style never to be violated, since if your image went to print, articulating the crop to the printer making the mechanical/plates would be very difficult.  It was just easier to shoot without cropping, but now ...

[william]

I'd hardly characterize this as a "game changer..."

(I have no horse in the race - As soon as I heard mirrorless, I knew I wasn't going to buy one anyway. So I'm not disappointed; just commenting that the breathless marketing by Hasselblad and hyping by one of the frequent posters here doesn't appear to have been lived up to.)

[Hulyss]

I'd hardly characterize this as a "game changer..."

(I have no horse in the race - As soon as I heard mirrorless, I knew I wasn't going to buy one anyway. So I'm not disappointed; just commenting that the breathless marketing by Hasselblad and hyping by one of the frequent posters here doesn't appear to have been lived up to.)

Completely agree with you. I'm more excited by an upcoming fixed lens Fuji MF camera.

[Christopher]

Completely agree with you. I'm more excited by an upcoming fixed lens Fuji MF camera.

Pretty sure it won't be a fixed lens one.

[Paul2660]

Completely agree with you. I'm more excited by an upcoming fixed lens Fuji MF camera.

It's hard not to get excited about a "game changer" from Fuji.  They have a very well integrated system design.  Hopefully they will also come in with a bit more of a real world price point as they have with other cameras. 

The only issue I see, is that more than likely C1/Phase will not support it.  So that leaves Adobe and if Fuji goes X-trans that will be a problem.  Adobe has a less than stellar raw conversion for the x-trans raw from the Fuji APS-C cameras and I have not a bit of hope that they will do anything different for this platform. 

Paul C


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[hubell]

Look at the new lenses for the X1. I believe that those are Fuji manufactured lenses. If that's right, I would expect that any Fuji medium format mirrorless body will be a Fuji branded version of the X1. This is exactly what occured with the Hasselblad H1. Fuji collaborated with Hasselblad on the H Series and had its own branded version of the H1 and HC lenses that it sold only in Japan.
The chances of Phase One providing Capture One support for any medium format competitor is zero.

[markymarkrb]

Is it just me or does anyone else not see the dial that was on the second teaser picture released by Hasselblad? Is this "leaked" picture fake or is their a second camera out there?

[torger]

Is it just me or does anyone else not see the dial that was on the second teaser picture released by Hasselblad? Is this "leaked" picture fake or is their a second camera out there?

The dial is behind the shutter button, you can see it in the perspective picture. However it's sunken down into the chassis. So probably it pops up when you press it, then you select something with it, and press it again to move it out of the way.

[siddhaarta]

From the photo, where you can see the sensor, one could come to the conclusion, that there is no focal plane shutter (again), or is it a global shutter?

If this camera depends on lenses with build in shutters, that would limit the adaptability drastically.

[Franzl]

how does everyone like the look of the camera (if this is real). for me the lenses are too big compared to the body, and I don't like it too much on the look. But besides that they have done a great job. still like smaller lenses on a bigger body (Leica M, Mamiya 7). I still think design is an important selling point in the area Hasselblad is aiming. one of the reasons why some camera makes selling better than others.