Joe,
I won't enter in an endless debate with you on this, you are smart enough to understant but I'll just point out a few aspects
- blaming China for the inaccuracy of their reporting: hilarious... Trump and his supporters have been calling China untrustworthy on pretty much every matter for years... but you claime to have believed their data on the corona spread... more than a month ago an article from credible scientist in the US proposed a very credible estimate of more than 15 times the official numbers of contamination and casualities,
- many Western countries were caught off-guard: true, but Trump continued to deny the obvious for weeks after plenty of obvious evidence from Europe was visible. the point isn't the prepardness - although there is a lot to say on this - but they way he kept denying the scientific facts. Every day matters here and your attempts to paint everything in a fuzzy light is not intellectually honest
- you seem to think that the criticism I and other made of Trump's action is political: that's the little box I am talking about. You were not able to look at the impeachment process in any other way than it being a political plot, and you keep making the same mistake again and again. Open your eyes, look, consider facts and you will see with obvious clarity a pattern emerge where the truth is ignored, where scientists and doctors's perfectly valid inputs and ignored when they don't match the political agenda of Trmup, where lies are made again and again to support a view of the world that imposes an extreme right wing agenda on the course of society, where the press is prevented from challenging authorities and simply from asking questions that highlight shortcomings (there were amazing videos yesterday showing how perfectly legitmate questions from CNN were simply not let be asked), where...
You don't need to answer me, it's really between you and your conscience. But make no mistake, the non/delayed actions of Trump will have resulted int he death of thousand of people. And you, keeping supporting him, share some responsibility in those deaths.
Done here.
Cheers,
Bernard
LOL
I gave you an easy win and an easy way to end it right now. If you are so right, like you claim, all you need to do is give me one article pre-Italy quoting one USA politician actually taking this as serious as we are now.
Come on Bernard. If you're so right, it should be an easy enough article to find. If your preferred party, the Democrats, are so much better, then surely at least one of them had so much foresight and felt so strongly for the country that he or she gave at least one interview back in January or February warning us about this and advising us to take actions similar in gravity as we are now.
By the way, the conscience piece, gave me a little chuckle.
I have to respond to your criticisms of Trump with the press. Yes, Trump talks down to the press, but he largely leaves them alone to do their thing. Obama illegally spied on members of the media, jailed reporters, and held vendettas such that he denied certain press members access to briefings. This has all been documented, and Trump has not done anything near egregious as Obama did to the press.
Obama, whose administration prosecuted and spied on reporters, claims Trump is very bad for criticizing newsrooms
