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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #580 on: July 31, 2019, 07:04:58 am »

I remember Scotland as a beautiful country, with friendly people...
A friend of mine was married there in kilt... he looked great!

back to Brexit:
A hard border between the Irelands will become onavoidable in a hard Brexit.
and as AL-Jazeera points out: The Iran problems and Brexit problems have become connected.

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/boris-johnson-handle-tanker-row-iran-190730150041762.html
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #581 on: July 31, 2019, 07:07:02 am »

Stick to a deep province, if you want to meet the Brits. Otherwise, you might find a cheaper vacation if you want to visit the Middle East.

I think you forgot the ;)
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #582 on: July 31, 2019, 09:47:09 am »

I think you forgot the ;)

Oh, yeah, thanks! ;)

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #583 on: July 31, 2019, 10:45:47 am »

I remember Scotland as a beautiful country, with friendly people...
A friend of mine was married there in kilt... he looked great!

back to Brexit:
A hard border between the Irelands will become onavoidable in a hard Brexit.
and as AL-Jazeera points out: The Iran problems and Brexit problems have become connected.

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/boris-johnson-handle-tanker-row-iran-190730150041762.html

Of course it becomes inevitable: one would be dealing with sovereign nations that, by definition, have natural, sovereign borders; secondly, one of them remains part of a larger grouping to which it subscribes, and with whom it has other, secondary boundary agreements it cannot breach.

The Northern Ireland border sell is just that: another Brexiteer bare-faced lie visible to all, including the Brexiteering voters. That they know this but vote for it regardless is a sign of the times, mirrored here on these pages with the Dem/Rep arguments, where intelligent - some highly - people understand and recognize the lies and the failings of both sides of the argument, but yet cannot bring themselves to do anything but cheer for the home team.

Frankly, I think we are at a point in history where a dramatic change is going to hit us, something worldwide and on a different scale to anything we have witnessed before. I feel it is inevitable because the old internal and external groupings are falling apart as we write.

Far from the European Union model being outdated, I think it was a well-considered, prescient concept by serious minds anticipating this current scenario.

Ties with America? I think a few posters here have it about right: the US can be isolationist and survive; most other countries are too small for that. Why would It want to form strong links with a tiny country that has proved itself capable of choosing commercial suicide by turning its back on its closest and best customers, and not only customers, but providers of employment in co-production endeavours? What would make the US imagine that it would be treated with more common sense, and not be ditched for even more unlikely combinations with the old empire? It amazes to see that so many think that empire has left a trail of thankful people who would love nothing more than to have it back. Must be the same kool-aid as those in Hong Kong have sipped, those who dream about a new British sovereignty there.

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #584 on: July 31, 2019, 11:23:07 am »

I think there has never been a more entertaining politician than Boris. Even the professional comedian-turned politician (the president of Ukraine) can not probably match him. This is so refreshing and delightful. A highly intelligent politician daring to speak truth to power and do it in such a ROTF manner.

I already love him!

P.S. I hope he can make London great British again

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« Reply #585 on: July 31, 2019, 02:55:47 pm »

I think there has never been a more entertaining politician than Boris. Even the professional comedian-turned politician (the president of Ukraine) can not probably match him. This is so refreshing and delightful. A highly intelligent politician daring to speak truth to power and do it in such a ROTF manner.

I already love him!

P.S. I hope he can make London great British again

You are joking, of course: he was major of London for long enough; and he achieved what?

Slobodan, we are dealing with rich dynasties here, people who have no need to work for their supper, have investments scattered around the world - probably mostly entirely legally - and for whom politics is a mind game with the prize being the office, exactly as in the States. What care they for the consequences of their game as long as they win? They float well above it, insulated from everything but assassination attempts which, I suppose, they are well-protected from most of the time.

I wouldn't want to be one of them for all the tea in etc. Believe it or not, I have more self-respect.

Rob

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #586 on: July 31, 2019, 04:02:38 pm »

Boris, the buffoon's buffoon.

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #587 on: July 31, 2019, 04:30:45 pm »

Boris, the buffoon's buffoon.

+ 100%

Dangerous clown.

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« Reply #588 on: July 31, 2019, 05:11:03 pm »

Boris, the buffoon's buffoon.

Dangerous clown.

And so Trump-like in so many respects—except, of course, that Boris speaks English.

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #589 on: July 31, 2019, 07:31:56 pm »

And so Trump-like in so many respects....

The best thing that could have happened to world. Enough of elite liberal sissies that created this mess in the first place.

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« Reply #590 on: July 31, 2019, 10:01:24 pm »

The best thing that could have happened to world. Enough of elite liberal sissies that created this mess in the first place.

"Elite liberal sissies"?  You're killing me, man.

Btw, which mess do you mean?
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #591 on: July 31, 2019, 11:01:55 pm »

... Btw, which mess do you mean?

The mess that all those "highly educated, experienced, professional, capable, reasonable, level-headed experts," diplomats and politicians before Trump and Boris created: Brexit, Israel-Palestine, Middle East, North Korea, China, Syria,  refugees, etc.

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #592 on: July 31, 2019, 11:25:21 pm »

What does this mean?
Sinn Féin warns Boris Johnson over no-deal Brexit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ta6oh4DbQ

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #593 on: August 01, 2019, 05:17:21 am »

The best thing that could have happened to world. Enough of elite liberal sissies that created this mess in the first place.

Do i hear the angry working man that voted for Trump? Who is going to make America GREAT AGAIN?  He is cutting taxes for the rich.... (Trump)

The working man's loan has not risen enough with the costs the last 4 decades. The middle class - once so strong in the 1960's- becomes smaller and have less to spend.

https://www.thebalance.com/trump-s-tax-plan-how-it-affects-you-4113968
"    High Income: If you have a very high income, the tax plan helps you the most. The Tax Foundation said those who earn more than 95% of the population would receive a 2.2% increase in after-tax income.  Those in the 20% to 80% range would receive a 1.7% increase. The Tax Policy Center said those in bottom 20% would only receive a 0.4% increase. "  ...
"The Tax Act may curtail economic growth in the long run. According to the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Act will add $1 trillion to the debt over the next 10 years."


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Trump's former top adviser: tariffs backfiring on US


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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #594 on: August 01, 2019, 05:29:17 am »

What does this mean?
Sinn Féin warns Boris Johnson over no-deal Brexit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ta6oh4DbQ

Many different things to many different people; exactly as all politicians pronounce - but with a difficult accent.

Rob

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« Reply #595 on: August 01, 2019, 09:09:47 am »

The mess that all those "highly educated, experienced, professional, capable, reasonable, level-headed experts," diplomats and politicians before Trump and Boris created: Brexit, Israel-Palestine, Middle East, North Korea, China, Syria,  refugees, etc.

Don't forget the "long-hairs" !
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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #596 on: August 01, 2019, 09:40:28 am »

Do i hear the angry working man that voted for Trump? Who is going to make America GREAT AGAIN?  He is cutting taxes for the rich.... (Trump)

The working man's loan has not risen enough with the costs the last 4 decades. The middle class - once so strong in the 1960's- becomes smaller and have less to spend.

https://www.thebalance.com/trump-s-tax-plan-how-it-affects-you-4113968
"    High Income: If you have a very high income, the tax plan helps you the most. The Tax Foundation said those who earn more than 95% of the population would receive a 2.2% increase in after-tax income.  Those in the 20% to 80% range would receive a 1.7% increase. The Tax Policy Center said those in bottom 20% would only receive a 0.4% increase. "  ...
"The Tax Act may curtail economic growth in the long run. According to the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Act will add $1 trillion to the debt over the next 10 years."


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Trump's former top adviser: tariffs backfiring on US



Taxes aren't any better in Europe, actually they're higher. But the main problem for both continents is that the people want more than they're willing to pay in taxes.  So both parties here print and borrow and go further into debt.  It's going to end badly for everyone.  You too.

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« Reply #597 on: August 01, 2019, 10:38:56 am »

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Trump's former top adviser: tariffs backfiring on US




Tariffs helped settle the revised NAFTA deal.  It also pushed Mexico to help with our illegal immigration problem.  While the deal isn't done with China yet, hopefully it will help to get them to stop stealing our intellectual property which even Gary Cohn the ex-Trump advisor in the article said was the right thing to do.   It might help open up China even more to the west's businesses.  We're in an economic war with China.  We're fighting a battle and both sides have casualties.  But the war isn't over.   If America can win this battle, your country will benefit as well without having to suffer casualties like us.  Of course, Americans are use to dying for others.

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Re: Brexit Encore
« Reply #598 on: August 01, 2019, 10:56:10 am »

Before you get yet another thread blocked, keep Brexit stuff Brexit stuff, please.

Rob

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« Reply #599 on: August 01, 2019, 03:32:17 pm »

OK.

1.  Will Britain be ready to equalize all tariffs between our countries or better still drop tariffs completely? 

2.   What deals would you like to see the US make after Brexit?
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