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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2015, 05:48:56 am »

Regarding spelling, grammar ...
What if a volunteer program were set up, where a small number (6?) lula members would proofread the article, prior to the official posting. The article could be emailed to these volunteers, and they would have 48 hours to offer corrections. I could spare the time to proofread an article a month.

This post has been proofread by a thousand monkeys.
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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2015, 06:57:27 am »

Pardon this English-as-second-language member for interjecting, but isn't the issue here much simpler, i.e., a typo, or auto-correct that corrected the intended "women contributors" into "woman..."


Yes.. there is that...

The use of "woman" (or "women") as an adjective isn't very common. The example here:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/woman?s=t

feels wrong. "A woman plumber"? "female plumber" seems more natural?

But really the problem is that the word "plumber" implies gender when it should not.

However there is that single sentence that came into my mind: "I am woman."

Back to the orignal sentence: "I'm all for adding more woman contributors", I'd probably write that as "I'm all for adding more contributors that are women"?

I suspect this is getting really OT :)
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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2015, 11:49:09 am »

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Back to the orignal sentence: "I'm all for adding more woman contributors", I'd probably write that as "I'm all for adding more contributors that are women"?

Or even better -  "I'm all for featuring more women"
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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2015, 11:56:56 am »

Or even better -  "I'm all for featuring more women"

Yes! Especially on page 3.

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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2015, 01:28:08 pm »

Regarding spelling, grammar ...
What if a volunteer program were set up, where a small number (6?) lula members would proofread the article, prior to the official posting. The article could be emailed to these volunteers, and they would have 48 hours to offer corrections. I could spare the time to proofread an article a month.

This post has been proofread by a thousand monkeys.

Excellent idea!

But why stop at spelling and grammar? It is hight time for someone to tackle PC issues as well, and that double troika you propose might just be the ones to do it. For instance, the very term "black & white" photography reeks of racial segregation, hence my hope that the magnificent six will make sure it is replaced with, say,  "monochromatic gray" photography. Even "color" photography is suspicious. Also, high time to tell Epson to get rid of its antiquated racial language, like "light black" and "light light black" (a thinly veiled, cruel joke at Michael Jackson's expense, perhaps?).

Good thing, though, it would be a virtual team. I am not sure if we would put six people in a room, for instance, to work on this project, that all six would walk out alive. I mean, if we can not agree if "woman" can be used as adjective, in spite of the fact that Dictionaly.com and Merriam-Webster dictionary say so, what to say for more controversial issues?

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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2015, 01:47:01 pm »

For instance, the very term "black & white" photography reeks of racial segregation, hence my hope that the magnificent six will make sure it is replaced with, say,  "monochromatic gray" photography. Even "color" photography is suspicious. Also, high time to tell Epson to get rid of its antiquated racial language, like "light black" and "light light black" (a thinly veiled, cruel joke at Michael Jackson's expense, perhaps?).
You're joking of course. Right?
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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2015, 01:59:57 pm »

And you're joking of course. Right?
Nope. Or I'd have  used  ::) or something similar.
If the future of LuLa is a group who are going to nitpick about silly politically correct ways of expressing photo terms like Black and White or Light Light black, dog help us all!

You guys ready to argue about Grey or Gray?
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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #47 on: January 25, 2015, 02:08:00 pm »

.... dog help us all!...

In (digital) dog we trust!

P.S. Where are the magnificent six to proofread Andrew's posts? ;)

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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #48 on: January 25, 2015, 02:13:18 pm »

In (digital) dog we trust!
P.S. Where are the magnificent six to proofread Andrew's posts? ;)
No, different dog. Since I'm a 'none' I have more trust in dogs than the opposite spelling.

P.S. You are welcome to proof read and correct anything I've written. I'm more interested in the facts and aiding other's here than attempting prefect grammar of absurd text, something you often provide here. The bit about Black and White a prefect example IMHO.
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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #49 on: January 25, 2015, 02:15:28 pm »

You're joking of course. Right?

I thought that the "single monkey" reference would be a dead giveaway, but apparently some people need smileys as well.

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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2015, 01:52:13 am »

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What if a volunteer program were set up, where a small number (6?) lula members would proofread the article, prior to the official posting. The article could be emailed to these volunteers, and they would have 48 hours to offer corrections.

Interesting idea. Best to recruit two reviewers from US, and one each from UK, Canada, Australia, and South Africa. In case of a grammatical disagreement, four identical edits would be required to amend and release the article.

On the other hand, I'd rather see the article 48 hours earlier even at a risk of being exposed to a typo.
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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2015, 03:28:41 am »

The typos can cause a serious risk to health. The individuals who believe themselves to be "perfect" could, upon seeing one of these mistakes could get very upset and lash out at their nearest and dearest who could then retaliate in a fashion that means they would have to visit hospital and after treatment be forced to take leave of absence from work which will mean losing their job. In turn the family could be come destitute. All because they read the the word colour and thought it a typo instead of color not realising that colour is the English spelling and not the American spelling. Smiley added. ;D

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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2015, 06:29:09 am »

Regarding 'woman photographer' or 'female photographer' ...

There are no adjectives here. Each phrase is a compound noun.

https://www.englishclub.com/grammar/nouns-compound.htm
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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2015, 06:55:04 am »

Regarding 'woman photographer' or 'female photographer' ...

There are no adjectives here. Each phrase is a compound noun.

https://www.englishclub.com/grammar/nouns-compound.htm


Hopefully the forum administrator can make this a sticky? :D

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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2015, 01:29:39 pm »

I'm sure the membership is eternally grateful.
In real life when I've stopped people being beaten up/attacked by bullies they are usually very grateful indeed.
However I don't expect any gratitude from similar behaviour online, because people so love misinterpret things that are written online and it's a wonderful haven for cowardly bullies.
As for people who talk nonsense online, they are about as interested in facts as those who talk nonsense in meat space are. *shrugs*.
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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2015, 01:36:10 pm »

You guys ready to argue about Grey or Gray?
I think I have the solution for this most important issue. Hereafter the only acceptable spelling must be "Gr*y."

{-s m I l e y-}
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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #56 on: January 26, 2015, 02:00:49 pm »

What shade Eric?
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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #57 on: January 26, 2015, 02:20:11 pm »

... {-s m I l e y-}

You misspelled it, Eric. :P

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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2015, 04:03:36 pm »

In the meantime if you see something that needs attention then drop me an email I'll see that it get corrected.

Yes, let's continue to hope that ordinary helpfulness is not too much to ask. Good luck!
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Re: Kevin Raber's "Time for a Change"
« Reply #59 on: January 26, 2015, 11:34:46 pm »

Everything looks good but the white backgrounds.

Images look better with dark backgrounds.

They don't have floodlights in theatres.

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