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Roscolo

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HP Matte Litho is back...wider...3"core!
« on: January 08, 2015, 01:24:09 pm »

Great paper that was impossible to get for the last few months is back. And now in 44" and 60" width (finally!)...and now on 3" core. You're welcome.
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Re: HP Matte Litho is back...wider...3"core!
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2015, 02:05:40 pm »

What do you print on that stuff?  Tell us about it.
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Re: HP Matte Litho is back...wider...3"core!
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2015, 02:30:52 pm »

I can tell you b&w looks really nice!
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Re: HP Matte Litho is back...wider...3"core!
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2015, 03:26:48 pm »

What do you print on that stuff?  Tell us about it.


Repros of artwork, and photos. Customers love it. But it disappeared for a few months...couldn't get it anywhere. And it has never been available in 44" and 60" widths or 3" core until now.
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Re: HP Matte Litho is back...wider...3"core!
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2015, 03:57:33 pm »

I prefer the 2 inch core. I have to use an adapter for 3. Its a pain to swap cores.
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Re: HP Matte Litho is back...wider...3"core!
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2015, 04:19:46 pm »

You will hate 2" cores when you get near the end of HP Matte Litho-Realistic. Also consider the purchase of some extra spindles + 3" adapters. Wasting less time in loading the papers you most often use.

Thanks Roscolo.
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Re: HP Matte Litho is back...wider...3"core!
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2015, 04:30:22 pm »

Good looking out Ernst. I forgot the curling issues!

I have the adapters and 2 spindles. The 3" cores on adapters get stuck! I normally wear cotton gloves, but still need to be very careful to not damage the paper.

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Re: HP Matte Litho is back...wider...3"core!
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2015, 05:40:27 pm »

You will hate 2" cores when you get near the end of HP Matte Litho-Realistic. Also consider the purchase of some extra spindles + 3" adapters. Wasting less time in loading the papers you most often use.

Thanks Roscolo.
Someone at HP still listens to customer's complaints.


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Re: HP Matte Litho is back...wider...3"core!
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2015, 09:09:31 am »


I have the adapters and 2 spindles. The 3" cores on adapters get stuck! I normally wear cotton gloves, but still need to be very careful to not damage the paper.



Pull the roll off the fixed end of the spindle, then use the end of the spindle to knock the stuck adapter out of the roll. Easy when you know how.
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Re: HP Matte Litho is back...wider...3"core!
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2015, 04:26:52 pm »

"Easy when you know how"

Its all relative. I haven't dealt with 3" cores. Anyone who has can say it is easy. But I understand how you do it. I'll give it a shot, as I have a Pro Satin on 3" soon to be used .
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Re: HP Matte Litho is back...wider...3"core!
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2015, 08:03:03 am »

Great paper that was impossible to get for the last few months is back. And now in 44" and 60" width (finally!)...and now on 3" core. You're welcome.

Yeeeeaaaaa!!!  :D :D

My favorite paper
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2015, 08:05:36 am »

What do you print on that stuff?  Tell us about it.


Almost everything, 95% of my printing is on Matte Litho - all my customer like it.

Black and white on Z 3100 is fantanstic on Matte Litho!
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Re: HP Matte Litho is back...wider...3"core!
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2015, 12:58:03 am »

Sounds great... but I haven't found where to buy since it's not on Amazon and the new HP store is virtually useless.

Can you help with a supplier address? (Not sure if I can ask that... I'm new here.)

Also, in adding 3" adapters to a spindle, are two required?
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2015, 03:24:28 am »

itsupplies.com has it.  Give them a big hug for me.
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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2015, 01:12:30 pm »

Just a quick note to say I've tried the new stuff and find it pretty much indistinguishable from the old except that for being slightly whiter. It still has that lovely smooth surface though, still 30m on a roll and still nice and cheap! I tried it with the old profile and calibration on my z3200 and it looked fine, then recalibrated and reprofiled and the test print looks near enough identical. It is a shame about the whiteness change as I have a client I do portfolio prints for very regularly and the new ones won't quite match the old but otherwise I'm delighted to have it back and the 3" cores and extra width are very welcome indeed.
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Re: HP Matte Litho is back...wider...3"core!
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2015, 08:31:13 pm »

Specs say no wood base.  Is this a matt RC poly based media?  How's the residual curl?  Thanks
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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2015, 09:46:36 am »

Specs say no wood base.  Is this a matt RC poly based media?  How's the residual curl?  Thanks

Curl seems as you'd expect ie better than before because of the larger core. Where did you get the idea it isn't wood based? Specs lifted from my supplier website are very similar to the old stuff (although they have changed the test method for brightness & opacity) except whiteness which is up from 75 to 95:
Core Size - 3" (75mm)
Thickness - 12.1 mil / 307 microns per ISO 536
Brightness - 95% per TAPPI T-452 Test Method
Weight, Metric - 269 g/m2 per ISO 536 Test Method
Opacity - Greater than 98% per TAPPI T-425 Test Method
Whiteness - 95 per ISO 11475 Test Method
Country of Origin - Made in Germany
Gloss Level - Matte
Primary Material - Wood fiber
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Re: HP Matte Litho is back...wider...3"core!
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2015, 10:41:19 am »

William,

Any Lab value mentioned for the paper white? I really wonder if this version is not manufactured by Felix Schoeller and has some resemblance to one of its products, weight may be different though. I have to check whether the 44" - 3" cores are already available here.

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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2015, 02:11:04 pm »

The "eggshell" white was kinda what I liked about it. Hmmm. Is it now considered simply bond vs Fine Art paper ? :-P
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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2015, 07:45:27 pm »

This "wood-free" is from a .pdf sheet from Lexjet.


"HP Matte Litho-realistic Paper
An economical wood-free art paper that delivers
exceptional print results with the look, feel and longevity
of a heavy, matte offset paper. This natural white
paper enables short print runs for a wide variety
of content, enabling better customer service
while minimizing costs associated with set-up,
inventory and related scrap. This paper is an economical
alternative to high-end, smooth fine art
papers for cost-effective art reproductions."
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