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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2014, 05:19:58 pm »

Working as a media photographer at the 2012-2013 America's Cup in San Francisco it was a revelation bouncing on the water in the media boats following foiling 70 foot catamarans flying at 40 plus knots…

I really like that first photo you posted. Well seen!

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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2014, 05:24:01 pm »

I really like that first photo you posted. Well seen!

-Dave-

I agree. Great!

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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2014, 05:31:15 pm »

+1

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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2014, 05:43:06 pm »

Thanks for your positive responses.  It always means a lot coming from outstanding photographers like yourselves.
Michael
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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2014, 05:59:00 pm »

Speaking about liberating... would a shot like this be possible even a few years ago? When I saw the way a late afternoon sun, just about to set behind horizon, is illuminating my daughter's face, sitting on the floor, in a New York high rise with windows floor to ceiling, I just grabbed my camera and got a few frames before it disappeared for the day. I had my 70-200/4 on the camera (60D), so f/4, 1/60 of a second (for the effective focal length of 112mm - thank you, image stabilization), and... ISO 6400!!!


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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2014, 05:53:11 am »

I use very low flash power now!
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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2014, 01:10:42 am »

Slobodan,
Having a son in his Junior year at the University of California, Davis I celebrate and congratulate you on being Dad to such a beautiful daughter.
Michael
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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2014, 01:29:19 pm »

Hey, thanks, Michael, appreciated!

You are about 3-5 years early, though. :) She is 15 now (14 in the picture).

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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2014, 02:39:14 pm »

(60D) and... ISO 6400!!!

Thanks for the reminder that I need to take another look at higher ISO on my "lowly" α35.
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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2014, 02:54:31 pm »

Thanks for the reminder that I need to take another look at higher ISO on my "lowly" α35.

Your "lowly" isn't so when compared to my 60D. It has one more stop of dynamic range, and almost the same optimum ISO level. Which brings us to another topic, how absolute are those DXO numbers. As I said in another thread, those numbers a accurate, except they do not tell the whole story. They can be especially misleading for newbies, who see, for instance, that my 60D (and your camera) has optimal max ISO at around 800 ISO and come to a (wrong) conclusion that they should never shoot above that.

My point is that you should always acquire an image, and worry about quality later. If the content matters, the rest will fall in place.
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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2014, 12:38:31 pm »

… 60D (and your camera) has optimal max ISO at around 800 ISO and come to a (wrong) conclusion that they should never shoot above that.

Do you have a comparison between ISO 6400 and ISO 800 +3EV in Lightroom?

My point is that you should always acquire an image, and worry about quality later.

In darkened rooms I still take the photographs, but at f2 1/40th-1/80th ISO400-800 and then increase EV in RawTherapee.
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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2014, 10:16:33 pm »

Interesting question/thread....relating to the new lease on photographic life I will be buying this month....

....These are my first shots ever taken with a Nikon dSLR (I've been a Canon guy from the start of my digital age)
....taken this week "test-driving" the Nikon D610....

They are in fact my first shots ever taken with ANY dSLR over ISO 1600 and these are very (dare I say stunningly) impressive @ 2500

...and they are nothing more than Nikon default settings...SOOB... with some minor tweaking in PS
...taken at BBuy with MF Vivitar Series1 28-90/2.8-3.5

I don't crop a lot...I'm not a pixel peeper...but I've included the full frame and cropped the shots here as I would expect to in real-world shooting....the forum's resizing does damage/degrade them a bit but "you get the picture", right?

Here's a link to their original uploaded file size:
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1329119


To OP's question...the sensor's ability at allow me to shoot at less than wide open apertures (here F4 and 5.6 vs 2.8/3.5 ) for "just enough" DoF to "get the shot" and at a shutter speed fast enough (1/100 and 1/60) to freeze my old shaky hands and the action....

I'm getting the D610 not just to add to my photography, but to add years to my photography....with practice, a lot of practice with Nikon machinery...
 






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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2014, 11:22:50 pm »

Do you have a comparison between ISO 6400 and ISO 800 +3EV in Lightroom?...

I wouldn't mind seeing one, but I do not care that much about a potential difference to do the test myself.

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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2014, 11:47:04 pm »

Do you have a comparison between ISO 6400 and ISO 800 +3EV in Lightroom?

In darkened rooms I still take the photographs, but at f2 1/40th-1/80th ISO400-800 and then increase EV in RawTherapee.

Good question

Will do just that and let ya know, unless you beat me to it

My impression with fooling around in LR is that to a point it's gonna look similarly. It's just a matter of what "point" you can take it. 3 stops is lot already. Not sure LR can expand that linearly... but will find out...
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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2014, 04:58:50 am »

Taken with a D3 on a very black night between rain showers, now all I have to do is convince editors that just because its dark doesn't mean to say it's not a worthy image.

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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2014, 06:00:24 pm »

Do you have a comparison between ISO 6400 and ISO 800 +3EV in Lightroom?

I wouldn't mind seeing one, but I do not care that much about a potential difference to do the test myself.

f/4, 1/60s, 85mm APS-C, Sony SLT-α35.

Center-crops: 6400, 800+3EV, 100+6EV (RAW processed with RawTherapee).

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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2014, 06:01:54 pm »

f/4, 1/60s, 85mm APS-C, Sony SLT-α35.

With NR: 6400, 800+3EV, 100+6EV (RAW processed with RawTherapee).

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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2014, 06:43:05 pm »

Thanks, Isaac, for doing this.

To my eyes, there is little, if any, difference between 6400 and 800+3 shots. 100+6 however is visibly noisier.

Question: I do not know much about your camera (a35)... is that one of those ISO-less cameras or...?

Question #2: is there any reason to shoot 800+3 instead of 6400?

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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2014, 07:08:18 pm »

To my eyes, there is little, if any, difference between 6400 and 800+3 shots. 100+6 however is visibly noisier.

Yep.

Question: I do not know much about your camera (a35)... is that one of those ISO-less cameras or...?

You mistake me for someone who knows what they're talking about, we'll have to ask Jim Kasson ;-)
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Re: How have high ISO bodies affected your habits
« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2014, 07:14:38 pm »

You mistake me for someone who knows what they're talking about, we'll have to ask Jim Kasson ;-)

Thanks for the compliment. Unfortunately, I know nothing about the a35.

Jim
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