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Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« on: October 24, 2011, 01:58:08 pm »

It looks like news is coming sooner than later...

http://www.captureintegration.com/2011/10/24/rumormill-open-platform-h4x-imminent

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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2011, 02:16:31 pm »

Now, isn't that great news!

Looks like the new owners haven't wasted any time turning around one of Mr. Poulson's dumbest decisions.

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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2011, 03:08:47 pm »

I heard about this a few weeks ago and have been waiting for the release. Still waiting about price point. I am happy to upgrade from my H2 to have the true focus and now the 28 and 35 - 90 lens.
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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2011, 03:17:57 pm »

Pricing is shown on the right side of the screen grab on the link.

Of course nothing should be considered official/final until they publicly announce. The price could be a place holder or out of date.

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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2011, 03:26:00 pm »

It says 3995 Euros.

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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2011, 06:57:22 pm »

It says 3995 Euros.

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I believe that price requires trade-in of an H or H2/H2F body.
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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2011, 07:01:37 pm »

Interesting, they must have figured out that selling lenses does generate money. :)

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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2011, 07:11:03 pm »

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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2011, 08:27:08 pm »

5,559.24 U.S. Dollars

I can understand the price, but it is high and they also want me to trade in my H2? I want to keep the H2 as a backup. maybe it pays to find a really old H1 cheap and trade that.
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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2011, 08:29:32 pm »

the site worked at as of this post

http://dev.hasselblad.com/promotions/h4x.aspx#
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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2011, 08:46:09 pm »

This is very good news for those of us using Phase backs with H1/H2 bodies, but it raises several questions for me.
Aside from a new body, are there any advantages of an H4X over an H1 beyond the True Focus technology and the ability to use the 28mm and the 35mm-90mm lenses?
While the 28mm lens is very very good, the 35-90 zoom is really an exceptional optic. However, will these lenses perform up to their capabilities if you can't run the files through the Phocus software to apply the DAC lens corrections? Will Phase offer "comparable" lens corrections in Capture One? ( Phase already offers lens correction presets for SOME HC lenses, but not all like the new 50mm lens.) My understanding is that the 28mm and 35-90 zoom were designed with lens "imperfections" that were addressed with software-based corrections.
Finally, the 28mm and the 35-90 zoom were designed for the somewhat cropped sensor of the 39mp backs. What is the practical effect of using these lenses with a full frame back with the full frame viewfinder?

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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2011, 10:28:54 pm »

the site worked at as of this post

http://dev.hasselblad.com/promotions/h4x.aspx#

Yep that works but is different from the url listed in the CI link...
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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2011, 02:36:47 am »

Interesting, they must have figured out that selling lenses does generate money. :)
yes for Fuji
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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2011, 06:45:48 am »

yes for Fuji

Of course!!  Hasselblad have absolutely nothing to do with the design, manufacture, distribution, sales and service of H system lenses.

This kind of comment is simply intended to be provocative.

Yes, Fuji will benefit, but they are not the only party involved.  This is a really old subject which is well and truly tired by now.
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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2011, 06:51:32 am »


This kind of comment is simply intended to be provocative.

I can be provocative too -

 I'd say it's time for Phase One to get out of the camera business and go BACK to what they make best -
 And time for Hasselblad to commit fully to an open system, which should bury the Mamiya once and for all.
 Actually, H cameras, P backs, and C1 software sound like a very very good idea.
 Also, H might go back to buying a few German lenses, there is this company called Zeiss who used to make some very nice optics which many of us like a lot ...

Edmund
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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2011, 06:54:25 am »

Of course!!  Hasselblad have absolutely nothing to do with the design, manufacture, distribution, sales and service of H system lenses.

This kind of comment is simply intended to be provocative.

Yes, Fuji will benefit, but they are not the only party involved.  This is a really old subject which is well and truly tired by now.
We all know that Hasselblad  has a big part in the lenses , sorry if it was a bad joke
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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2011, 06:56:43 am »

We all know that Hasselblad  has a big part in the lenses , sorry if it was a bad joke

As long as you don't say the lenses are the joke :)

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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2011, 07:00:38 am »

As long as you don't say the lenses are the joke :)

Edmund
nooooooooo  I loved my 210  :P
 but I sold all because I didn't want to keep the closed H1 and I preferred Phaseone DB , the H4Dx comes late  (for me) but I am really happy for Hasselblad , I shall  be at the Photokina
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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2011, 07:33:15 am »

If anyone is planning to attend PhotoPlus in New York City - I understand a unit will be live at the Shoot-NYC event; I won't make the trip but look forward to some other LL members to get their impressions...

Here's the Shoot NYC link

For those that like/prefer the Hasselblad platform this is indeed some good news -

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Re: Rumormill: Hasselblad H4X Imminent
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2011, 07:42:41 am »

Now, isn't that great news!

Looks like the new owners haven't wasted any time turning around one of Mr. Poulson's dumbest decisions.

Michael


I always have this mixed feeling about the decision . In one hand it harmed the users, but in the other I am almost sure that hasselblad will be broken at this moment without the bold move.

For Phase One it was the perfect position: You don't invest on cameras, getting a free ride at hasselblad's expenses, and you invest all your resources on backs, killing  Hasselblad.

Today is a different scenery: Hasselblad is no longer a minor player, and Phase One is investing in a new camera.
So the change in direction is clear: Build the H4X and continue to invest on your backs.

In a single word:  Maybe the direction was not bad, but now is anachronistic.

The point I never understood was why they did not buy Leaf (maybe it was just the lack of money)

Best regards,

James
 




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