Then there is the great divide between all Baryta/Fiber/RC/Foil/Film qualities set against all matte Fine Art/plain matte coated inkjet/uncoated papers if is about MK or PK. With few exceptions.
Is there a reason why we can't have a PK Ultrasmooth Matt Surface?
I just tried the Harmon Gloss Baryta on the IPF 8300 yesterday and there is no bronzing and no gloss differential. There is not even the necessity to apply a couple of coats of uv spray unless you want greater surface protection. It just works.
narikin, it's all comes down to physics. The deeps blacks and vivid colours that gloss surfaces produce happen because they are efficient light reflectors. The surface is smooth, and light striking a smooth surface at 90 degrees is directly reflected back. It's coherent light. This is also why there is glare, for when you view a gloss image at an angle the light is also efficiently reflected. Well positioned lighting is critical for viewing a gloss image at it's best.A matte surface conversely, is designed to scatter light. It's "bumpy" or irregular, and and there is less light reflected directly back, and less coherent light. That's the reason that matte black is less punchy and the colours have a smaller gamut. It's also why there is no glare, for the same light scattering properties hold true when you view the image at an angle.Bottom line, we can't have out cake and eat it too!Terry.
When I tested the fiber gloss Harmon when it first came out a few years ago it was super glossy and looked no different than an rc plastic print so I never thought twice about it again. But they totally redesigned it and now it can pass for Ilfobrome silver paper. It is even great for very small prints which is the first I've found that was not too textured. It has the best gloss characteristics of all the fiber gloss papers I've used with the Z3100 also, but if you look closely there is a tiny bit of bronzing than can give you a rainbow effect. But the Canon is perfect. This is the very first time I've been totally happy with these kinds of papers with pigments. I have to say I haven't tested the Platine yet with this printer but have seen it from an Epson 9880 and the Z and there were still some slight issues, but it's a nice paper.
I want a matte cake!
IMHO - Harman Gloss Baryta (ex FBAL) has the true air-dried low gloss surface out there - no stipple - works well at angles and in small prints. I wish for the love of god that Canson had copied that surface with Platine.
I'm standardizing on this as my only fiber gloss media from now on. Damn it's about time. I've wasted thousands on all these others over the years with mediocre results at best for black and white.
They deserve an award for nailing both of these. I'm standardizing on this as my only fiber gloss media from now on. Damn it's about time. I've wasted thousands on all these others over the years with mediocre results at best for black and white. j
IMHO - Harman Gloss Baryta (ex FBAL) has the true air-dried low gloss surface out there - no stipple - works well at angles and in small prints. I wish for the love of god that Canson had copied that surface with Platine.Similar great surfaces are Epson Exhibition Fiber, (aka Innova IFA49 Fibaprint UltraSmooth) where they got it dead right too, BUT... filled the things with bad OBA's so it has terrible longevity. Avoid.
They got an award: http://harman.hahnemuehle.com/news/en/822/398/harman-by-hahnemuehle-series-honoured-as-world-best-fine-art-inkjet-paper-by-tipa.htmland well deserved too imho
...Damn it's about time. I've wasted thousands on all these others over the years with mediocre results at best for black and white. j
This is a really old thread (2011!) reactivated, so its no surprise that that link is now brokenHarman Baryta remains an excellent paper, many people put it #1. It does really well on Aardenberg readings, despite having some OBA in there. go figure. One issue is it has a truly overpowering curl on it in roll form. Really difficult to work with. Wish they could fix that for people who print big...Cut sheet is of course not a problem.
