Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine

[Alan Klein]

So I guess that means you got nothing.

Well I know the virus was being worked on in a lab in Wuhan the city where the virus started? What do you got? Pangolins?   

[faberryman]

Well I know the virus was being worked on in a lab in Wuhan the city where the virus started?

How do you know that the COVID-19 virus was being "worked on" in the Wuhan lab at the time of the outbreak?

What do you got? Pangolins?

There are many articles about the pangolins being a possible carrier of the virus.  Here is one for example.

https://www.sciencealert.com/more-evidence-suggests-pangolins-may-have-passed-coronavirus-from-bats-to-humans

[jeremyrh]

Well I know the virus was being worked on in a lab in Wuhan the city where the virus started?

You don't know that.

[Alan Klein]

How do you know that the COVID-19 virus was being "worked on" in the Wuhan lab at the time of the outbreak?

There are many articles about the pangolins being a possible carrier of the virus.  Here is one for example.

https://www.sciencealert.com/more-evidence-suggests-pangolins-may-have-passed-coronavirus-from-bats-to-humans

You don't know that.

SARS viruses were being studied there in the Wuhan Lab for years.  That's why the lab was there.  One of the researchers probably carried it out when he went to the nearby food market to get an eggroll for lunch.  I doubt if Pandolins like eggrolls.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology

[faberryman]

Well I know the virus was being worked on in a lab in Wuhan the city where the virus started.

How do you know that the COVID-19 virus was being "worked on" in the Wuhan lab at the time of the outbreak?

SARS viruses were being studied there in the Wuhan Lab for years.  That's why the lab was there.  One of the researchers probably carried it out when he went to the nearby food market to get an eggroll for lunch.

So you don't "know" that the COVID-19 virus was being "worked on" in the Wuhan lab at the time of the outbreak. You are just making that up. And then, after you made that up, you guessed that a researcher "probably" carried the virus out of the lab to a food market when he went out to lunch. What a load of crap. You've been caught yet again trying to pass off a complete fabrication on your part as a fact.

[jeremyrh]

SARS viruses were being studied there in the Wuhan Lab for years.  That's why the lab was there.  One of the researchers probably carried it out when he went to the nearby food market to get an eggroll for lunch.  I doubt if Pandolins like eggrolls.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology

SARS is not Covid-19. So you are just making stuff up.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Unfortunately, Covid is not a one-time event. It could take years to completely eradicate it....

You are smarter than that, my friend. You certainly don't think I meant it is a one-time event. It will become seasonal, like the flu. But what is one-time event are the panic-porn numbers - 500K+ - that are not going to be repeated every year. Like the flu, it is going to take 30-50K every year and we won't even notice. Hopefully, the fascists (aka Democrats) won't stay that long in power to enforce idiotic masks and catastrophic lockdowns every year.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Knock it off.

Everybody knows O.J. Simpson did it, just as everybody knows the Chinese did it.

[faberryman]

Knock it off.

Everybody knows O.J. Simpson did it, just as everybody knows the Chinese did it.

What exactly is the "it" that everybody knows the Chinese did?

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

What exactly is the "it" that everybody knows the Chinese did?

Released the virus, of course. Or, as a minimum, responsible for the virus.

[faberryman]

Everybody knows O.J. Simpson did it, just as everybody knows the Chinese did it.

What exactly is the "it" that everybody knows the Chinese did?

Released the virus, of course. Or, as a minimum, responsible for the virus.

The fact that you have responded in the alternative indicates that you do not know that China "released the virus". The "responsible for" alternative is certainly vague enough to cover a wide range of actions or inactions and levels of accountability or culpability. It really doesn't describe the "it" which you assert that everybody knows the Chinese "did".

[jeremyrh]

You are smarter than that, my friend. You certainly don't think I meant it is a one-time event. It will become seasonal, like the flu. But what is one-time event are the panic-porn numbers - 500K+ - that are not going to be repeated every year. Like the flu, it is going to take 30-50K every year and we won't even notice. Hopefully, the fascists (aka Democrats) won't stay that long in power to enforce idiotic masks and catastrophic lockdowns every year.

Not so long since you were asking to be woken up when 60k people died. Now it’s over half a million. Not sure I trust your powers of prediction on this subject!!

[Chris Kern]

Like the flu, it is going to take 30-50K every year and we won't even notice.

It could turn out that way, and hopefully will.  But it's too early even for people with expertise in virology or epidemiology to make predictions with any confidence.  The SARS-CoV-2 virus only recently made the jump from animals to humans; we've probably been living with influenza for close to 2500 years and the 'flu has learned to coexist with us.  "Smart" viruses don't kill their hosts because they can't propagate to a dead person.  This new coronavirus currently does.  If the most survivable mutations are smart, the dominant variants of the virus will become less lethal without becoming so much less infectious that they are eradicated by vaccines, and your scenario will become our new reality.  But I'm not aware of any empirical data which suggest that is happening yet.

Stay tuned, and until then, get vaccinated, stay masked, maintain physical distancing, and keep washing your hands.

[Manoli]

Stay tuned, and until then, get vaccinated, stay masked, maintain physical distancing, and keep washing your hands.

Keep on telling them, Chris - it can't be repeated often enough.
Yesterday a good friend of mine passed away, aged 66.
It took but 10 days.

... then I think of the clowns who, in this and other threads, advocate not wearing masks in the name of their personal 'freedoms' and ' li mando nel loro paese'



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[Slobodan Blagojevic]

The fact that you have responded in the alternative indicates that you do not know that China "released the virus". The "responsible for" alternative is certainly vague enough to cover a wide range of actions or inactions and levels of accountability or culpability. It really doesn't describe the "it" which you assert that everybody knows the Chinese "did".

Ok, Hairsplitter-In-Chief.

[jeremyrh]

Ok, Hairsplitter-In-Chief.

Just trying to work out what you actually are claiming - can you explain?

[TechTalk]

Who cares?

People

When you are dead, you are dead,

Something most people are generally trying to avoid and which the current vaccines help in reducing — as do masks, social distancing, and avoidance of large or crowded gatherings.

[TechTalk]

the fascists (aka Democrats)... idiotic masks and catastrophic lockdowns

Naturally, you are free to make whatever hyperbolic comments you choose, regardless of their relationship to reality or the current topic. As a courtesy to your host, who has politely requested —

Steer the thread back to the topic of “promising new coronavirus vaccine” or shuttle the overtly political to the one and only political thread.
Thanks.

— do you think that this is the best place to do so?

[Alan Klein]

How do you discuss policies without discussing politics? They go together

[LesPalenik]

You are smarter than that, my friend. You certainly don't think I meant it is a one-time event. It will become seasonal, like the flu. But what is one-time event are the panic-porn numbers - 500K+ - that are not going to be repeated every year. Like the flu, it is going to take 30-50K every year and we won't even notice. Hopefully, the fascists (aka Democrats) won't stay that long in power to enforce idiotic masks and catastrophic lockdowns every year.

For the half a million dead, that was indeed a one-time event. Hopefully, by summer the vaccines will reduce the need for masks and lockdowns.