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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16220 on: July 02, 2024, 03:17:12 pm »

As I understand it, the contention is that evidence relating to actions he took in his "official" status ought not to have been admitted.
Yes, but that is a bit vague (which is why I agree with your quotes around it).
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16221 on: July 02, 2024, 04:59:02 pm »

The U.S. Supreme Court has held that the president is immune to civil lawsuits for "all acts within the 'outer perimeter' of his duties of office."  Nixon v. Fitzgerald, 457 U.S. 731 (1982).

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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16222 on: July 02, 2024, 06:34:18 pm »

I wonder if much of the "hair-pulling" by some pundits over the SCOTUS recent immunity ruling has somewhat to do with perspective and who they fear is going to use the power? Presidential immunity seems necessary when a reasonable, thoughtful, intelligent person is in office, however less so when a self-centred, vindictive, sociopath sits in the chair.

And the lack of clarity on "official act" spins two threads. One, relates to whether Trump will be ultimately found guilty of an offence, while the other, how Trump's counsel can now use the lack of clarity as a way to delay (multiple months spent arguing the definition and then it will have to go back to SCOTUS eventually anyway to decide) every case against him, at least until he gets into office and gives himself a pardon or other get out of jail free card. I think this is where SCOTUS dropped the ball the most and truly wonder if they did it as gift to him. Regardless, they sure didn't do their reputation, or the country, any good.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16223 on: July 02, 2024, 09:35:46 pm »

I saw a report today that Trump is calling for Liz Cheney to appear before a military tribunal to answer the charge of treason.

Military tribunal?

And people are worried about Biden losing it?   :)
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16224 on: July 03, 2024, 02:50:08 pm »

I wonder if much of the "hair-pulling" by some pundits over the SCOTUS recent immunity ruling has somewhat to do with perspective and who they fear is going to use the power? Presidential immunity seems necessary when a reasonable, thoughtful, intelligent person is in office, however less so when a self-centred, vindictive, sociopath sits in the chair.

And the lack of clarity on "official act" spins two threads. One, relates to whether Trump will be ultimately found guilty of an offence, while the other, how Trump's counsel can now use the lack of clarity as a way to delay (multiple months spent arguing the definition and then it will have to go back to SCOTUS eventually anyway to decide) every case against him, at least until he gets into office and gives himself a pardon or other get out of jail free card. I think this is where SCOTUS dropped the ball the most and truly wonder if they did it as gift to him. Regardless, they sure didn't do their reputation, or the country, any good.

Back in the 1970s, one of the complaints from US conservative media (American Spectator among others) was the then (liberal) "activist" Supreme Court, as they viewed it at the time.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16225 on: July 04, 2024, 03:46:44 am »

Yes, but that is a bit vague (which is why I agree with your quotes around it).
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16226 on: July 04, 2024, 11:31:07 am »

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« Reply #16227 on: July 04, 2024, 11:34:05 am »

Resave PNG as JPEG, worked. Looks like the forums have some PNG issues.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16228 on: July 05, 2024, 10:23:02 pm »

Here's Gwynne Dyer's take on the Assange story https://gwynnedyer.com/2024/assange-free-at-last-but/.
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« Reply #16229 on: July 05, 2024, 10:35:19 pm »

That Brexit thing has really worked out well for the UK, hasn't it https://gwynnedyer.com/2024/the-west-enormous-changes-at-the-last-minute/.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16230 on: July 05, 2024, 10:39:16 pm »

In case you were wondering why we haven't heard much about Wikileaks or Anonymous lately, here's a 47 min podcast from the news and analysis site Canadaland that discusses it https://www.canadaland.com/podcast/1000-how-they-crushed-wikileaks/.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16231 on: July 05, 2024, 10:48:53 pm »

Two fathers shoot each other's daughters during a road rage incident, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEBp8i3VH5o.
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« Reply #16232 on: July 06, 2024, 03:05:05 pm »

That Brexit thing has really worked out well for the UK, hasn't it https://gwynnedyer.com/2024/the-west-enormous-changes-at-the-last-minute/.

The article contains no comment on the effect of Brexit, so I'm unsure on what you base your comment. It's a mistake to imagine the motives were purely financial. But this is an inappropriate forum for such debate.

The election is over. We have a Labour government with a huge majority. Time will tell if life improves.

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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16233 on: July 07, 2024, 08:04:00 am »

The article contains no comment on the effect of Brexit, so I'm unsure on what you base your comment. It's a mistake to imagine the motives were purely financial. But this is an inappropriate forum for such debate.

The election is over. We have a Labour government with a huge majority. Time will tell if life improves.

Jeremy

The snide Brexit comment was my own editorial flourish. :)
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16234 on: July 10, 2024, 12:42:27 pm »

This week's comics from "The Week" mag:
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16235 on: July 10, 2024, 03:25:35 pm »

I'm glad to see Project 2025 finally getting the attention it deserves.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #16236 on: July 10, 2024, 08:42:28 pm »

I'm don't think it matters anymore how bad Trump is/will be, but more how well Biden can turn this around. And this appears highly impossible with more and more fairly well known Dems (and donors) coming out publicly, either still questioning his capabilities or out-right saying he has to go.

I think the Dems are literally shooting themselves in the foot (feet?) as whether he goes or stays, by the time the Dems settle this issue, it will be too late. And, they are looking like a bunch of disorganized amateurs, much like they have accused the Reps of in the past.

I fear Trump will win and, to top it off, the Dems will come in second place in both the House and the Senate.
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« Reply #16237 on: July 12, 2024, 10:35:41 pm »

Have seen a few recent article/YT headings screaming that Presidential immunity, as per the recent SCOTUS ruling, is unconstitutional.

Not arguing either way as I don't have enough Constitution knowledge, however, if the ruling does present a constitutional conflict, what is the actual remedy? If SCOTUS is the top legal dog and the House/Senate are incapable of doing much let alone revise a Constitution, how does a SCOTUS (Constitution) wrong get righted? Or is that it, and the country just has to live with the result?
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