Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa

[chez]

You couldn't handle it; don't be a masochist!

What I'm having a problem handling right now is your posts...bye...bye.

[chez]

Your ability to ignore your past statements and reverse course on a dime is something else. You're in a league of your own! Now you want to look at the national popular vote for comparative analysis of election results in different years?

When I made a post, in the previous political thread, that compared the national popular vote to electoral votes in 2008, 2012, and 2016; you vociferously objected to comparing or even considering the national popular vote. To quote, you said...

"You conveniently left out the most important statistic. Donald Trump 58%  Hillary Clinton 42% - electoral votes for president 2016." ... "That's deceptive. You never listed the electoral percentage totals. This is the accurate way it should have been shown: Final Election Day Result: Clinton 43% / 232 Electoral Votes — Trump 57% / 306 Electoral Votes". (Note... don't blame me for the inconsistency of the percentages from one statement to another, I'm just quoting you.)

So... to use your previous "logic", assuming the present lead in the various States remains as it is currently, Biden will net 306 electoral votes to Trump's 232. In other words, following your previously insistent "accurate way"—people voted for Trump in 2020 at 43% which is a much lower percentage than 4 years ago at 57%.

Using your previous logic and insistence that the "accurate way" to look at election results was to compare electoral vote, Trump lost 14% of his previous vote total; a very large drop.

You said it was Biden that constantly changed his positions. Perhaps it was just the way that you changed your way of looking at them.

Come on Alan...let's hear what you have to say about your quick turn about face.

[digitaldog]

I don't think you want me to get on the topic of politics since you couldn't handle that.

Speaking of what you can’t handle; the difference between us is I can make and take pictures, and get paid to do either. At the same time I can discuss politics on this forum. Seems you’re not able to do either.
Are there any of your photographs to be found in your self published book of fiction Frans?

[TechTalk]

Anyone have any thoughts on why Trump would be removing DoD leadership right after he lost an election and moves out in 10 weeks?  Or why Pompeo is talking about a "smooth transition to a second Trump administration?"  Or why Georgia's very Trumpy senators are publicly calling for the (Republican) Sec State to resign because he won't go along with the "election fraud" nonsense?

Are we allowed to be concerned yet?

Sure. I became concerned when Barr issued an unprecedented memo to Department of Justice attorneys to begin ballot fraud investigations before the count was finished and certified and the Director of the Election Crimes Branch of the Department of Justice resigned his position immediately afterward. He has been an attorney for the Public Integrity Section, Criminal Division of the DOJ for 28-years and the Director of Election Crimes Branch for the past 10-years.

https://www.axios.com/barr-voter-fraud-investigation-doj-official-resigns

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/10/head-of-doj-s-election-crimes-unit-steps-down-after-barr-oks-election-inquiries

[TechTalk]

You couldn't handle it; don't be a masochist!

So, you're into that kind of thing. Well, live and let live.

Got anything else?

[James Clark]

Sure. I became concerned when Barr issued an unprecedented memo to Department of Justice attorneys to begin ballot fraud investigations before the count was finished and certified and the Director of the Election Crimes Branch of the Department of Justice resigned his position immediately afterward. He has been an attorney for the Public Integrity Section, Criminal Division of the DOJ for 28-years and the director of Election Crimes Branch for the past 10-years.

https://www.axios.com/barr-voter-fraud-investigation-doj-official-resigns

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/10/head-of-doj-s-election-crimes-unit-steps-down-after-barr-oks-election-inquiries

Oh, I'm not worried about THAT.  I've been assured that, despite elections being among the very most "state level" functions there are, there's no authoritarianism at work here.  In the same vein, it makes perfect sense that the historically nonpartisan Bill Barr DoJ should publicly step in to take over for "biased" state level officials (like the aforementioned GA SecState (R) )

[BernardLanguillier]

You did it again.  You doubled down on implying Trump voters of all sorts of terrible things that aren't true.  Maybe we should be drawn and quartered as the Socialist OEC wants to do.  I think she would send us all away to a gulag.  Or worse. This is what is scary about the left. They could justify eliminating those who think differently then them "for the better good". 
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/09/aoc-cancel-worked-for-trump-435293

Am I asking you a question that you decided not to answer.

If it means that you support these aspects of Trump that I called Trumpism (lies, sexism,...), then yes you are indeed a terrible person. Because every single of the things I wrote about Trump is true beyond doubt.

Your call.

Cheers,
Bernard

[John Camp]

Anyone have any thoughts on why Trump would be removing DoD leadership right after he lost an election and moves out in 10 weeks?  Or why Pompeo is talking about a "smooth transition to a second Trump administration?"  Or why Georgia's very Trumpy senators are publicly calling for the (Republican) Sec State to resign because he won't go along with the "election fraud" nonsense?

Are we allowed to be concerned yet?

I'm confident that Biden will be inaugurated on Jan. 20, if there IS a Jan. 20. You have to remember that we're dealing with a current president who is, and has been for some time, mentally ill. A number of prominent Republicans are still sucking up to him because they're attracted by his Trump's goofy base, but that will go away. What I'm really worried about is conflicts possibly generated by Trump's orders that nobody wants to follow. What if he should order a military attack on Iran or China? What would the military do, especially if Biden and the Congress objected to it? Could they slow walk it for ten weeks? Don't know. I really think Biden will be President on Jan. 20, but a lot of weird shit could happen between now and then.

[JoeKitchen]

Am I asking you a question that you decided not to answer.

If it means that you support these aspects of Trump that I called Trumpism (lies, sexism,...), then yes you are indeed a terrible person. Because every single of the things I wrote about Trump is true beyond doubt.

Your call.

Cheers,
Bernard

LOL 

This makes me laugh at you so hard.  The result of this election is, "we dont like Trump's personality but love his policies."  Have fun over the next four years completely alienating the public. 

God I have nevered enjoyed an election result so much. 

[TechTalk]

I'm confident that Biden will be inaugurated on Jan. 20, if there IS a Jan. 20. You have to remember that we're dealing with a current president who is, and has been for some time, mentally ill. A number of prominent Republicans are still sucking up to him because they're attracted by his Trump's goofy base, but that will go away. What I'm really worried about is conflicts possibly generated by Trump's orders that nobody wants to follow. What if he should order a military attack on Iran or China? What would the military do, especially if Biden and the Congress objected to it? Could they slow walk it for ten weeks? Don't know. I really think Biden will be President on Jan. 20, but a lot of weird shit could happen between now and then.

It's a near certainty that Trump will accelerate the sowing of as much division between citizens as possible and work even harder to undermine confidence in American democracy through false assertions and encouraging distrust in the necessary institutions upon which democracy relies. Authoritarian governments around the world that want to undermine the ideals of democracy and the United States will take pleasure in that.

It will certainly be a stress test for democracy in the United States, but I agree with you. I think the country can handle the obvious and petty machinations of a sociopathic narcissist like Trump and get thru this battered but intact.

[TechTalk]

I don't think you want me to get on the topic of politics since you couldn't handle that.

I hate to be the one to point out the obvious, but the topic of this thread is politics. Did you wander in by mistake? Do you need some assistance figuring out where you are?

[TechTalk]

The result of this election is, "we dont like Trump's personality but love his policies."

The result of this election is that a majority of Americans prefer Joe Biden as their President and have rejected Donald Trump's show. He's been canceled due to bad ratings.

God I have nevered enjoyed an election result so much.

I certainly hope the people of this country can deliver many more that are similar to it for you to enjoy in the years to come.

Have fun over the next four years completely alienating the public. 

You too. That won't be as easy with Trump out of office; although he could retain the title of Commader-in-Tweets as a consolation prize.

[kers]

APnews has to spend more and more pages factchecking the unelected president.
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-ap-fact-check-donald-trump-business-virus-outbreak-108077c4b716db604ee49b42c6d64af0

Mr T and his monthly refreshed group of well chosen yaeh-sayers are really unbelievable! ( but true!)
Pompeo says ‘there will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration’
( yes, if he wins in 2024, thanks to Biden)


 

[LesPalenik]

It is exactly one week after the US election and both the infections (over 133,000) and deaths (over 1,300) are steadily rising. The increase in the Covid cases correlates clearly with increased human contacts during mass gatherings around the election date (pre-election rallies, voting attendance, celebrations and protests). The spread of the virus with the added new virus carriers could get much worse this coming week.

[Craig Lamson]

It is exactly one week after the US election and both the infections (over 133,000) and deaths (over 1,300) are steadily rising. The increase in the Covid cases correlates clearly with increased human contacts during mass gatherings around the election date (pre-election rallies, voting attendance, celebrations and protests). The spread of the virus with the added new virus carriers could get much worse this coming week.

Don’t worry. President Elect Joe aBiden has a great plan. /s

[chez]

It is exactly one week after the US election and both the infections (over 133,000) and deaths (over 1,300) are steadily rising. The increase in the Covid cases correlates clearly with increased human contacts during mass gatherings around the election date (pre-election rallies, voting attendance, celebrations and protests). The spread of the virus with the added new virus carriers could get much worse this coming week.

And yet not a thing from the president. What an ass.

[chez]

Don’t worry. President Elect Joe aBiden has a great plan. /s

By the time Biden gets the authority, another 50,000 or more will die all the while Chetos plays more rounds of golf. What a guy.

[kers]

Don’t worry. President Elect Joe aBiden has a great plan. /s

To have a plan is already something new.

[TechTalk]

USPS employee who claimed mail-in ballot tampering in PA recants allegations

A United States Postal Service worker who made claims of mail-in ballot tampering in Pennsylvania — which Senator Lindsey Graham called for investigation into — recanted his allegations Monday.

The USPS employee, identified as Richard Hopkins, signed a sworn affidavit alleging ballot tampering and fraud. In the affidavit, the postal worker alleged that postal supervisory officials hatched a plan to backdate ballots mailed after the election.

The Oversight Committee said Hopkins was interviewed by investigators Friday and Monday recanted the allegations without saying why he signed a false affidavit. There is no word if Hopkins will face perjury charges.

https://www.wbtw.com/usps-employee-who-claimed-mail-in-ballot-tampering-in-pa-recants-allegations

“Here are the facts: Richard Hopkins is a USPS employee in Erie, Pa. He signed a sworn affidavit with allegations of ballot tampering/fraud and went public through Project Veritas. USPS IG began investigating last week,” the committee explained. “USPS IG investigators informed Committee staff today that they interviewed Hopkins on Friday, but that Hopkins recanted his allegations yesterday and did not explain why he signed a false affidavit.”

https://twitter.com/OversightDems/whistleblower completely RECANTED his allegations

"He signed a sworn affidavit with allegations of ballot tampering/fraud and went public through Project Veritas." No surprise that Project Veritas was involved in this fraud.

[James Clark]

To have a plan is already something new.

Seriously.  Even just encouraging mask wearing would be an immediate improvement.