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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #700 on: November 10, 2020, 01:50:25 pm »

LOL.  Seriously, I am sitting here with a smile on my face.  You guys are suppose to be joyous, but Trump really did break you.  He broke you down to nothing, and now you are pissed conservatives are still going to be conservatives after this (lets face it) amazing election for my side. 

I really think deep down you know you guys know your era is ending, and that is why you are so upset. 

BTW, Obama did target him.

Trump continues to live rent free in the digitaldogs head.  I think Trump might be building a golf course and a hotel in there.

It really is amazing though, seeing this outpouring of Trump hate given that it appears their guy will actually win.  I was expecting them to wax poetic about the wonderful things in Biden's Covid plan that will make American such a better (have you read his plan?  Its really something!) place. Or his other plans to "build back better" 
 
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« Reply #701 on: November 10, 2020, 01:55:12 pm »

Frivolous, hilarious  D'Souza himself actually pleaded guilty in federal court to one felony charge of using a "straw donor" to make an illegal campaign contribution to a 2012 United States Senate.

What ever happened to old D'Souza anyway? He was a Fox News darling there for awhile, along with Sebastian Gorka. I guess they just faded off into irrelevance.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #702 on: November 10, 2020, 01:58:19 pm »

Trump continues to live rent free in the digitaldogs head.  I think Trump might be building a golf course and a hotel in there.

Well, we got Joe ragging on Obama today, and last week Alan was bitching and moaning about Hilary stealing the White House china 20 years ago.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #703 on: November 10, 2020, 02:01:43 pm »

Well, we got Joe ragging on Obama today, and last week Alan was bitching and moaning about Hilary stealing the China 20 years ago.

Its not quite as non stop as the Trump bashing but you have a point.  But hey lets go positive!  Don't you just love Joe Biden! :)
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« Reply #704 on: November 10, 2020, 02:01:53 pm »

What ever happened to old D'Souza anyway? He was a Fox News darling there for awhile, along with Sebastian Gorka. I guess they just faded off into irrelevance.

He is currently producing and directing a feature film.  Not a documentary or a work of non-fiction, but an actual piece of entertainment.  (I am sure you will find a joke here somehow.) 

I think this another area the country is going to see a big change in, Hollywood loosing part of it's dominance in the culture.  Along with D'Souza, The Daily Wire is getting into movie production, along with a couple of other conservative groups.  Four years ago this would have been impossible since Hollywood owned the distribution chains, but now distribution is extremely open. 

I see good things in the future for conservatism when it comes to culture. 


PS: Not only that, but conservatives are fighting back from being censored.  Initially Amazon refused to have "What Killed Michael Brown," by Shelby Steele, run on their platform.  Then there was backlash from the Wall Street Journal and Amazon reversed course.  Similar things happened with "Uncle Tom," by Larry Elder.  Both great documentaries. 

Steele actually brought up the issue of public housing and bad it is for the black community.  He talked about the infamous Pruitt–Igoe public housing in St Louis.  Prior to the project, the historically black neighborhood was filled with single family homes with a higher rate of ownership then neighboring white communities with only a slightly lower value.  The government, in building the project, destroyed all the equity in the neighborhood and set the entire community back. 
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #705 on: November 10, 2020, 02:04:11 pm »

What ever happened to old D'Souza anyway? He was a Fox News darling there for awhile, along with Sebastian Gorka. I guess they just faded off into irrelevance.

He still has spots on Fox.  He was on last night I think.  I  turned them off after Tucker but I think I saw a banner that said he was going to be on.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #706 on: November 10, 2020, 02:05:02 pm »

Its not quite as non stop as the Trump bashing but you have a point.  But hey lets go positive!  Don't you just love Joe Biden! :)

I voted against Trump, so I am not all that vested in Biden. I hope good things will happen under his watch. If they don't, we'll just have to find someone better next time around.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #707 on: November 10, 2020, 02:08:07 pm »

I see good things in the future for conservatism when it comes to culture.

What did you have in mind?
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #708 on: November 10, 2020, 02:08:17 pm »

Like Obama spying on reporters he did not like and having them arrested? 

Like Obama having the IRS target conservative groups. 

Like Obama having his justice department put Dinesh D'souza in jail over some frivolous campaign contribution charge that pretty much everyone does not even have charges brought against them for just because Dinesh made a documentary critical of Obama.  Talk about hating on journalists. 

Like Obama and Biden going after Flynn with the Logan Act, something no one has even been prosecuted on.  FYI, John Kerry has been openly breaking the Logan Act over the last 4 years. 

Yes, I do have actual tangible examples.

"Like Obama spying on reporters he did not like and having them arrested?"

Reporter James Rosen was investigated—as part of a national security investigation—for his contacts with Stephen Jin-Woo Kim. Stephen Jin-Woo Kim is a former State Department contractor who pleaded guilty to a felony count of disclosing classified information to Fox News reporter James Rosen. Prosecutors charged that Kim's actions indirectly alerted North Korea to what U.S. intelligence officials "knew or did not know about its military capabilities and preparedness."

The claim that James Rosen was spied on because Obama didn't like him is fake news, not fact. When was James Rosen arrested? He wasn't... more fake news.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jin-Woo_Kim

"Like Obama having the IRS target conservative groups."

This is a persistent right-wing myth. The IRS was looking into the misuse of 501(c)(4) tax exempt charitable status as a front for political activity. The investigation by the IRS did NOT "target conservative groups" it targeted political groups both progressive and conservative. It was just the conservative groups that played victim and repeated the false claim over and over ad nauseam that they were the sole victims of a travesty.

"The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration reviewed a decade of IRS handling of political organizations. It found that scores of liberal groups were subject to the same heavy scrutiny that conservative groups faced. This merely certified what had been perfectly clear all along. Within months of the “targeting scandal” breaking, evidence was already available to show that the IRS was giving political activists on the left the same treatment as those on the right. (The New York Times reported on this as early as June 2013.) Subsequent hearings turned up no evidence Obama had ordered the IRS to target conservatives because the IRS did not in fact target conservatives."

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/10/debunked-irs-scandal-shows-theres-no-sane-wing-of-the-gop

"Like Obama having his justice department put Dinesh D'souza in jail over some frivolous campaign contribution charge that pretty much everyone does"

In 2014, D'Souza pleaded guilty in federal court to one felony charge of using a "straw donor" to make an illegal campaign contribution to a 2012 United States Senate campaign. He was sentenced to eight months in a halfway house near his home in San Diego, five years' probation, and a $30,000 fine. In 2018, D'Souza was issued a pardon by President Donald Trump.

Using a straw man to funnel political contributions is NOT "some frivolous campaign contribution" or something "that pretty much everyone does". That's more fake news. It's not something "that pretty much everyone does" because it's a federal crime that does get prosecuted.

Avoiding Straw Donor Issues
By Brendan Parets on September 11, 2020

"While federal campaign finance enforcement priorities can and do shift, prosecutions of “conduit contributions” or “straw donors” have remained steady over the years.  Unlike most of federal campaign finance law, the law around straw donors is stable and well developed, and straw donor prosecutions tend to be straightforward."

https://www.insidepoliticallaw.com/2020/09/11/avoiding-straw-donor-issues/

"Like Obama and Biden going after Flynn with the Logan Act, something no one has even been prosecuted on."

It was the Trump DOJ that prosecuted Flynn when he pled guilty to lying to the FBI, something that many people have been prosecuted for over many decades.

"Yes, I do have actual tangible examples."

Really?
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #709 on: November 10, 2020, 02:11:40 pm »

The current plan is to use normal vaccine distribution channels. It is unlikely the military will be used. So no Humvees in front of CVS.

Thats sad, I like Humvees...
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #710 on: November 10, 2020, 02:23:11 pm »

Trump continues to live rent free in the digitaldogs head.  I think Trump might be building a golf course and a hotel in there.

It really is amazing though, seeing this outpouring of Trump hate given that it appears their guy will actually win.  I was expecting them to wax poetic about the wonderful things in Biden's Covid plan that will make American such a better (have you read his plan?  Its really something!) place. Or his other plans to "build back better"

Trump who?
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #711 on: November 10, 2020, 02:24:28 pm »

He still has spots on Fox.  He was on last night I think.  I  turned them off after Tucker but I think I saw a banner that said he was going to be on.

And I thought you said you got your news reading. Gotcha.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #712 on: November 10, 2020, 02:33:02 pm »

Trump lives rent free in your head.

He continues to live rent free in your head.....

Trump continues to live rent free in the digitaldogs head.

Is this just repetitious use of an idiom or are you attempting hypnosis?

As for me, I've been charging Trump rent. He hasn't paid yet; but he has a reputation for not paying his bills.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #713 on: November 10, 2020, 02:37:30 pm »

Trump continues to live rent free in the digitaldogs head.  I think Trump might be building a golf course and a hotel in there.

It really is amazing though, seeing this outpouring of Trump hate given that it appears their guy will actually win.  I was expecting them to wax poetic about the wonderful things in Biden's Covid plan that will make American such a better (have you read his plan?  Its really something!) place. Or his other plans to "build back better" 
 
I'm willing to give Biden a chance. After all he will be our president and his success is our success.  Hopefully his policies won't be too weird.  A Republican senate will push more compromise and less unilaterally legislation.  It will stop packing the court and making states out of Washington DC and Puerto Rico, something I think Biden really doesn't want to do anyway. 

One of the problems with the anti-Trump craziness is that it hurt America.  We had an opportunity to develop better relations with Russia at a time when we could use them as a counterweight to China, and blew it because of the political charges of Russian collusion.  It forced Trump's hand to be tougher than he should have been with them to show that there wasn't collusion.  Meanwhile, Russia is now having military exercises with China. 

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« Reply #714 on: November 10, 2020, 02:48:48 pm »

I'm willing to give Biden a chance. After all he will be our president and his success is our success.  Hopefully his policies won't be too weird.

Alan, I am sure you expressing that sentiment is why Mrs Klein loves you.... ;)

On a serious note, I certainly hope there are a lot more folks out there with your attitude.

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« Reply #715 on: November 10, 2020, 02:51:46 pm »

Alan, I am sure you expressing that sentiment is why Mrs Klein loves you.... ;)

On a serious note, I certainly hope there are a lot more folks out there with your attitude.


Oh sure.  There's no BDS only TDS. Most republicans are just normal folks.  :)

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« Reply #716 on: November 10, 2020, 03:11:51 pm »

Oh sure.  There's no BDS only TDS. Most republicans are just normal folks.  :)

Well, with the slight exception of Biden being senile and also an international criminal mastermind of unheard of proportion—seeing that as a Vice-President with no independent political power, he was able to corral the bipartisan support of the entire U.S. Government, the entire EU western alliance, and global financial institutions into supporting a corrupt and nefarious plan to protect his son from a nonexistent prosecution. Except for that... yeah.

* Oh... and his plan to turn the U.S. into a gray dreary socialist commie hellhole. Almost forgot that.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #717 on: November 10, 2020, 03:18:14 pm »

And I thought you said you got your news reading. Gotcha.

Tucker is opinion and not news, and I already stated I watch Tucker.  Nice try though.


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No I don't watch much cable or network news  I prefer to read, But I do like to watch Martha and Tucker if I have time.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #718 on: November 10, 2020, 03:19:50 pm »

Is this just repetitious use of an idiom or are you attempting hypnosis?

As for me, I've been charging Trump rent. He hasn't paid yet; but he has a reputation for not paying his bills.

It just fits so well, why change. 

As for you.  I'm not sure Trump would find the space suitable.
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« Reply #719 on: November 10, 2020, 03:28:54 pm »

Well, with the slight exception of Biden being senile and also an international criminal mastermind of unheard of proportion—seeing that as a Vice-President with no independent political power, he was able to corral the bipartisan support of the entire U.S. Government, the entire EU western alliance, and global financial institutions into supporting a corrupt and nefarious plan to protect his son from a nonexistent prosecution. Except for that... yeah.

* Oh... and his plan to turn the U.S. into a gray dreary socialist commie hellhole. Almost forgot that.
You're confusing me with the deplorables. 
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