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« Reply #660 on: November 10, 2020, 12:35:04 pm »

Yes, I'm stating facts.
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." --Mark Twain
Like Trump's call of massive vote fraud, you too have provided zero proof. Easier to simply stick your head in the sand and call facts "fake news".

Once again, I asked you for some specific real life things Trump did that makes him an authoritarian. 

Would you care to try again?  I dont care about rhetoric, but something tangible. 

I dont think you can name any, since you guys on the left have reaching at straws the last 4 years.  My favorite is when the left called him an authoritarian for this past year while at the same time complaining that he did not have the federal government take more authority over the states.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #661 on: November 10, 2020, 12:35:49 pm »

So, do you have any real examples?
Examples like previous ones you'll ignore or call 'fake news'?
Why ask? Answers based upon fact, data will fall on a pair of deaf ears.
The unreality bubble is very thick with this one.  ;D
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Once again, I asked you for some specific real life things Trump did that makes him an authoritarian. 
Would you care to try again?  I dont care about rhetoric, but something tangible. 
CWOBaT (colossal waste of bandwidth and time).
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« Reply #662 on: November 10, 2020, 12:38:32 pm »

Every authoritarian regime in modern history starts by whipping up the populace with claims that the press is controlled by [insert relevant targeted group here] and can't be trusted, only the authoritarian can be trusted to tell the truth to the people.

Every authoritarian regime in modern history starts by whipping up the populace with claims that their opponents are criminals and/or treasonous and working against the peoples best interest and the authoritarian threatens to lock them away or execute them for their treason.

The purpose of the rhetoric is to provide one or more targets on which to focus the fears, unhappiness, distrust, and concerns of the populace in order to gain power.

Want to borrow some books?

Sound like how Dems talk about right wing news sources and their opponents, including Biden. 

You guys have been throwing this shit at us for decades, like calling someone a racist over a policy difference.  We, on the right, have had enough and plan on throwing it right back at you.  Get use to it, because your side has shown itself to be fully without grace. 
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« Reply #663 on: November 10, 2020, 12:39:54 pm »

Examples like previous ones you'll ignore or call 'fake news'?
Why ask? Answers based upon fact, data will fall on a pair of deaf ears.
The unreality bubble is very thick with this one.  ;DCWOBaT (colossal waste of bandwidth and time).

And yet again, nothing tangible. 

Would you like to try again?  Come on, if he was such an authoritarian, it should be ease to actually point to one real life thing he did instead living in your own fantasy. 
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« Reply #664 on: November 10, 2020, 12:41:00 pm »

Sound like how Dems talk about right wing news sources and their opponents, including Biden. 

You guys have been throwing this shit at us for decades, like calling someone a racist over a policy difference.  We, on the right, have had enough and plan on throwing it right back at you.  Get use to it, because your side has shown itself to be fully without grace.

So, do you have any real examples?
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« Reply #665 on: November 10, 2020, 12:43:04 pm »

You guys have been throwing this shit at us for decades, like calling someone a racist over a policy difference.
So Trump's policy is siding with White Supremacists (good people on both sides), calling countries filled with people of color 'shithole countries'  telling congresswomen of color to "go back to where they came from", refusing to denounce white supremacists at the presidential debate?
Those are example's bud; straight from Trump.
Thanks for that  'data point' from Planet Trump.
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« Reply #666 on: November 10, 2020, 12:43:19 pm »

You know, it really is amazing.  I thought a Trump defeat would break up the Republican party and unify the left.  Well golly, just the opposite happened. 

First, lets state the obvious, Biden is not the winner here.  As my brother (far left wing democratic operative) candidly told me last night, McConnell is the real winner of this race.  I know some of you have high hopes for GA, but no republican has ever lost a run off in GA for any position.  Plus, we only need to win one of the races, and Warnock has now been connected to Fidel Castro, plus he wont answer if he will pack the court.  Schumer is certainly not helping your hopes either. 

So I am predicting McConnell will stay majority leader, and that, along with the now "McConnell Court," will pretty much make Biden completely inert. 

Next, Republicans are fully unified and actually grew some balls, which is what Trump real legacy will be.  Democrats, though, are now heading into a full out civil war while Pelosi refuses to denounce socialism when asked in press conferences.  It is going to be beautiful to watch.  At least when we went through this 2010, we had Obama to hid the unrest behind.  But this is going to be fully on display. 

And part of the reason is because it is obvious many lefties have been so broken by Trump, they are incapable of being fix.  Look at Bernard over the past few days.  You would think he would be happy, but no. 

But the real reason the party will not be able to do this is because Biden (the only person who advised against the Bin Ladin raid) is more feckless then Obama.  Truly unifying the country would require Biden to turn to his left flank and tell them to knock it off.  He does not have the balls to do that. 

Division and break down of the Dems, along with McConnell and the court driving them insane, means Republicans have all of the momentum, especially considering our uptick in support from minorities.

While you are at it, why don't you tell cheetos that he lost? And ask him to vacate the premises. It would be sad, albeit in line with his narcisistic trait, to watch a former president being dragged out of the house. I bet he is a big fan of calimero.

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« Reply #667 on: November 10, 2020, 12:46:21 pm »

Trump has been busy on Twitter this morning:

"Republicans, don’t let Andrew McCabe continue to get away with totally criminal activity. What he did should never be allowed to happen to our Country again. FIGHT FOR JUSTICE!"

McCabe was fired in January 2018 the day before his pension vested. Who says Trump can't hold a grudge?

"Highly Respected Ken Starr: “Pennsylvania’s three-day extension of the mail-in ballot deadline is a Constitutional Travesty.” Legal scholars agree!"

Biden is ahead in Pennsylvania by around 45,000 votes. This tweet relates to approximately 7800 ballots which were received in the three day period following election day. They are not included in the totals reported, and will make no difference in the vote count.

"BALLOT COUNTING ABUSE!"

Sort of vague don't you think.

"WATCH FOR MASSIVE BALLOT COUNTING ABUSE AND, JUST LIKE THE EARLY VACCINE, REMEMBER I TOLD YOU SO!"

We have been watching for a week and haven't seen much if anything.

"WE WILL WIN!"

Trump is in major denial.

"WE ARE MAKING BIG PROGRESS. RESULTS START TO COME IN NEXT WEEK. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"

So far, he's got virtually nothing.

"“Only because of President Trump, we are going to have a Vaccine by the end of the year.”  Ronny Jackson, Texas Congressman-Elect"

Ronny Jackson is the idiot White House physician who claimed with a few changes in diet Trump could live until he was 200. He also gave Trump an extra inch in height so he would register below the obese level on his BMI score. Jackson was subsequently nominated by Trump and then withdrawn for the head of the VA. Then he was fired for handing out pills to White House staff. By some miracle he was just elected to the House Of Representatives for a district in Texas.

"“President Trump told us for some time we would be getting a Vaccine by the end of the year and people laughed at him, and here we are with Pfizer getting FDA approval by the end of this month. He was right.” @MariaBartiromo"

This is a tweet of a quote from a Fox News anchor who apparently hasn't gotten the memo.

It's good to see him go,but his comical antics will be missed. Or, he will keep us entertained from outside of the house? Maybe he will hire someone to write his memoirs? Should be fun. I hope cheetos continues to provide some fun, but now without doing any harm.

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« Reply #668 on: November 10, 2020, 12:48:09 pm »

So, do you have any real examples?

Like Obama spying on reporters he did not like and having them arrested? 

Like Obama having the IRS target conservative groups. 

Like Obama having his justice department put Dinesh D'souza in jail over some frivolous campaign contribution charge that pretty much everyone does not even have charges brought against them for just because Dinesh made a documentary critical of Obama.  Talk about hating on journalists. 

Like Obama and Biden going after Flynn with the Logan Act, something no one has even been prosecuted on.  FYI, John Kerry has been openly breaking the Logan Act over the last 4 years. 

Yes, I do have actual tangible examples. 
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« Reply #669 on: November 10, 2020, 12:49:29 pm »

While you are at it, why don't you tell cheetos that he lost? And ask him to vacate the premises. It would be sad, albeit in line with his narcisistic trait, to watch a former president being dragged out of the house. I bet he is a big fan of calimero.

He is President until January 20th.  Insofar as him fighting the results in court, Al Gore showed us in 2000 that this is fully within his rights. 
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« Reply #670 on: November 10, 2020, 12:50:27 pm »

Not everything is a political choice or a left conspiracy against poor loser Trump... ( and he just got less votes, it is a simple as that, it is called election)
It takes time to develop a SAFE vaccine.
If anyone gets credit it will be the manufacturer, not Trump or any other person that likes to be credited.
Many governments push the making of a vaccine, because fortunately most of them did not think Covid would go away by itself, miraculously.
Then the vaccin is still in a test fase; better a well tested vaccin than one with bad side effects, maybe even worse than covid.

Trump argued we would get a vaccine this year.  He pushed the manufacturers and offered them financial reward.  He set up distribution through our armed force to move it expeditiously when ready.  He was right while the fake news media downplayed his claim. 

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« Reply #671 on: November 10, 2020, 12:52:03 pm »

More conspiracy theories. I guess I need to forward this to Alex Jones over at Infowars. It may take a while for him to get to it. He and a few of his friends are currently driving back to NYC from Arizona in some Chrysler minivans in what they are calling the "Stop the Steal Caravan". Perhaps they couldn't afford the flight back, or didn't want to wear masks on the plane, or something.
Too convenient it came out a week after the election.  Pfizer sat on it, whatever the reasons.  Maybe they just didn't want to seem like they were playing favorites.  Whatever. 

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« Reply #672 on: November 10, 2020, 12:53:57 pm »

So Trump's policy is siding with White Supremacists (good people on both sides), calling countries filled with people of color 'shithole countries'  telling congresswomen of color to "go back to where they came from", refusing to denounce white supremacists at the presidential debate?
Those are example's bud; straight from Trump.
Thanks for that  'data point' from Planet Trump.

LOL, man, you really need to give up on fantasy.  First, read the full text, Trump did not call White Supremacists good people.  He specifically said in the same sentence that he was not talking about White Supremacists.  He also denounced them during the debate, and after the debate, and before the debate.  I actually remember Biden refusing to even acknowledge Antifa existing, let along denounce their violence. 

Second, I dont know about you, but Haiti is not on my short list of countries to visit. 

But once again, any real actual examples of something he did.  I keep on asking, but you keep on dodging.
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« Reply #673 on: November 10, 2020, 12:54:27 pm »

He set up distribution through our armed force to move it expeditiously when ready.

The current plan is to use normal vaccine distribution channels. It is unlikely the military will be used. So no Humvees in front of CVS.
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« Reply #674 on: November 10, 2020, 12:56:11 pm »

He is President until January 20th.  Insofar as him fighting the results in court, Al Gore showed us in 2000 that this is fully within his rights.

I've got no problem with the lawsuits. He is current 0-10 as of last Friday.
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« Reply #675 on: November 10, 2020, 12:57:52 pm »

You did it again.  You doubled down on implying Trump voters of all sorts of terrible things that aren't true.  Maybe we should be drawn and quartered as the Socialist OEC wants to do.  I think she would send us all away to a gulag.  Or worse. This is what is scary about the left. They could justify eliminating those who think differently then them "for the better good". 
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/09/aoc-cancel-worked-for-trump-435293
OK. OK.  I meant AOC.  Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. If anyone had looked at the link, they would have seen that.  Obviously you're not curious about the point only making fun of people like you do with Trump.  Curiously, you ignore Biden's.

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« Reply #676 on: November 10, 2020, 12:59:29 pm »

LOL, man, you really need to give up on fantasy.
Pot calling kettle black.
Next we'll hear from Joe's Kitchen in the unreality bubble is: Trump rarely (never?) lies.
"I've told more truth than George Washington". Almost as absurd as what he said he did for "his blacks" compared to Abraham Lincoln.
"I never encourage deceit, and falsehood, especially if you have got a bad memory, is the worst enemy a fellow can have. The fact is truth is your truest friend, no matter what the circumstances are"-Abraham Lincoln
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« Reply #677 on: November 10, 2020, 12:59:48 pm »

Like Obama spying on reporters he did not like and having them arrested? 

Like Obama having the IRS target conservative groups. 

Like Obama having his justice department put Dinesh D'souza in jail over some frivolous campaign contribution charge that pretty much everyone does not even have charges brought against them for just because Dinesh made a documentary critical of Obama.  Talk about hating on journalists. 

Like Obama and Biden going after Flynn with the Logan Act, something no one has even been prosecuted on.  FYI, John Kerry has been openly breaking the Logan Act over the last 4 years. 

Yes, I do have actual tangible examples.

Still after Obama? You're fighting the last war, my friend.
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« Reply #678 on: November 10, 2020, 01:00:13 pm »

OK. OK.  I meant AOC.  Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. If anyone had looked at the link, they would have seen that.  Obviously you're not curious about the point only making fun of people like you do with Trump.  Curiously, you ignore Biden's.
You've provided ample evince who to ignore :P.
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« Reply #679 on: November 10, 2020, 01:01:04 pm »

OK. OK.  I meant AOC.  Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. If anyone had looked at the link, they would have seen that.  Obviously you're not curious about the point only making fun of people like you do with Trump.  Curiously, you ignore Biden's.

Biden's what?
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