I speak for myself.
We is not you. I don’t know if you are purposely trying not to understand this, or if you are really struggling with it but your posting history and lack of facts provided highly suggests the later.
I'd say we're in stage 3 or 4 right now.
Proof of concept, facts from your own keyboard that no, you speak for others (
again).
"
Think twice before you speak, because your words and influence will plant the seed of either success or failure in the mind of another." - Napoleon
Speaking only for myself, other's can chime in, failure.