US Elections 2020 (geopolitics, informed debate, no ad hominems)

Biden

14 (66.7%)

Trump

7 (33.3%)

Total Members Voted: 21

Voting closed: November 02, 2020, 06:25:59 pm

[faberryman]

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Trump isn't whining.  He gets out there and campaigns.  Does his job.  Keeps going.  Like the Eveready bunny.

Yeah, Craig was telling me all about the Energizer bunny. You guys need to get together and brainstorm, and maybe expand your repertoire of metaphors. Or maybe they are similes. Aren't similes when you use "like"? I always get those confused, and I am too lazy to look it up.

[faberryman]

Terrorists from either the right or left are not a threat to America. We've always had those nuts.  It's the intellectual left in colleges, media, government, and industry that are the real threat to liberty.

I addressed that issue a few minutes ago when I was talking about Liberty University, but maybe you missed it.

[Alan Klein]

Right.
Lucid, perspicacious and rational, all-in-one.
Now let's get back to the cogent topic of the last 100 odd pages: dissing Biden.

Well, Biden is getting his support from the left.  He once was a reasonable moderate.  Now he's sold his soul to the left to become president.  He's become a Socialist in his old years. 

[Alan Goldhammer]

I noticed that one of those photo editing software programs now has cloud replacement with AI, but it is kind of like watching Tucker Carlson,

Do you mean it is not a truthful rendition of the sky?

[faberryman]

It is not at all clear who they used to ship the packet.  I would never use the US Postal Service for this and based on my experience with priority mail over the last four months, they are the last carrier I would use.  Here is what the article says, "Carlson went on to explain that the documents were shipped on Monday afternoon to California with a "large national carrier"—he did not disclose the carrier's name throughout the segment, but said it was one frequently used by Americans."

So which one is it UPS or FedEx who are the principal overnight delivery companies.  Both companies have state of the art logistics tracking and know where the package is at all times because of barcode scanning.  This one smells.

Don't tell me you guys are trying to figure this out rationally. It will never work. Just make note of it and move on.

[Craig Lamson]

I'll wait for someone on the Fox News side to verify this allegation.

So you think Tucker is telling a lie?

[Alan Klein]

Yea they do and he said so last night and that they had that tracking data.  He also said they reviewed all of the data, watched all of the videos and talked to all people involved and even searched the trucks, and they had no idea what happened or why. The package was found opened by one of their employees. 

Now either Tucker is not telling the truth ( and I have no idea if he served in the military) or the carrier is.  Or maybe somebody actually stole the material.  Sneakers comes to mind.  Perhaps some enterprising MSM journalist will tackle this story.  They should have plenty of time left over since they are not covering Hunter.

I'll check my mail soon to see if I got it. 

[faberryman]

So you think Tucker is telling a lie?

Well, to be honest, given some of the other stuff he's said, the thought did cross my mind. I mean you probably don't believe some of the stuff I say, and the world is still turning 'round. But I'll just wait and see if there is any follow-up, and then make a decision. Maybe the story will just go away, and be replaced with something better. Sometimes that happens.

[faberryman]

Meanwhile, MSM Washington Post has a story on the difficulties Elkhart Count IN is facing (right close by our Indiana photographer) because of politics and the pandemic:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/10/29/elkhart-indiana-covid-outbreak-election/    "The worst of the pandemic is hitting Elkhart County, Ind., just days before the election. The number of new coronavirus cases is exploding. Positive test rates are three times the national average. Local hospitals are running low on beds, their doctors and nurses exhausted.

Yet Elkhart’s public health leaders and politicians know exactly what needs to be done — how to slow the virus and break the chains of transmission. They did it with success during a smaller outbreak this summer.

But they also know that’s not going to happen now."

Trump has proclaimed the pandemic is over. The thing is, my next door neighbor is a doctor, and says the ICUs where he practices are maxed out with some really sick people. Who knows? Maybe they all just have the flu. It's hard to know who to believe. I don't know about you, but I'm not going to be licking any door handles when I go out.

[Craig Lamson]

Meanwhile, MSM Washington Post has a story on the difficulties Elkhart Count IN is facing (right close by our Indiana photographer) because of politics and the pandemic:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/10/29/elkhart-indiana-covid-outbreak-election/    "The worst of the pandemic is hitting Elkhart County, Ind., just days before the election. The number of new coronavirus cases is exploding. Positive test rates are three times the national average. Local hospitals are running low on beds, their doctors and nurses exhausted.

Yet Elkhart’s public health leaders and politicians know exactly what needs to be done — how to slow the virus and break the chains of transmission. They did it with success during a smaller outbreak this summer.

But they also know that’s not going to happen now."

Thats where I work.  And yes there is an outbreak and its not good, but Im not suprised.  No one up there wears a mask and they don't care about social distancing.  I have not looked to see how the cases are broken down but the Amish are really bad about taking precautions and they are a big part of the RV plant workforce. Not to place all the blame on them, lots of people are up there are says "screw it"   

The RV plants are running full tilt right now and I don't think they really want to have a shutdown.  They were pretty good about it in the spring. 

Indiana as a whole is going upwards on cases.  My country saw 243 new positives yesterday.  My neighbor has it. 

Elkhart county, the subject of the story had 126 new positives as of Tuesday. 

[faberryman]

Not to place all the blame on them, lots of people are up there are says "screw it"

Yeah, like Joe. But he's a real man.

[Alan Klein]

Will the fact Europe suffers as well take the edge off the blame Trump is getting?  WIll the press bury the Europe news on page 43 of their papers?  Why are posters who knocked America's leadership here for six months so silent about this news? 


Europe gears up for more economic pain as Germany and France impose national lockdowns

The latest measures to address the second wave of Covid-19 infections in Europe could lead to higher unemployment, the permanent closure of many businesses and even more national debt.

The French statistics office said before news of the latest lockdown that it expects economic activity to settle at “5% below its pre-crisis level” during the third quarter.

Data from the German statistics office showed that the restaurant industry experienced a more-than 40% drop in turnover between March and August in comparison with the same period a year earlier.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/29/covid-lockdowns-in-france-and-germany-will-hit-europes-economy-again.html

[Craig Lamson]

Yeah, like Joe. But he's a real man.

We always are very careful when we work up there.  We work alone in a secluded space and rarely see any staff.  Restrooms are an issue, and we dread them.  We bring out lunch from home most times and do drive through we we don't.  I have one lone Motorhome yet to shot on the 12th and then I'm not going back until spring.

[JoeKitchen]

Yeah, like Joe. But he's a real man.

Oh, how very cisgender of you, assuming I identify as a man, you fascist!   

[JoeKitchen]

We always are very careful when we work up there.  We work alone in a secluded space and rarely see any staff.  Restrooms are an issue, and we dread them.  We bring out lunch from home most times and do drive through we we don't.  I have one lone Motorhome yet to shot on the 12th and then I'm not going back until spring.

I'm not going to lie, I feeling pretty guilty with myself right now.  I told myself I would never give in and get tested, but someone came along and promised to cross my palm with silver. 

"Do you want this job where you make a few grand for just a day's work.  Well, if so, new regs state you need to get tested."   

And just like that, my name is now going into the database they will use to cull off the chaff when AOC and the commies take over.  Do they make you perform a Maoist struggle session before entering?  I just want to know if I should bring some knee pads. 

[Alan Klein]

I'm not going to lie, I feeling pretty guilty with myself right now.  I told myself I would never give in and get tested, but someone came along and promised to cross my palm with silver. 

"Do you want this job where you make a few grand for just a day's work.  Well, if so, new regs state you need to get tested."   

And just like that, my name is now going into the database they will use to cull off the chaff when AOC and the commies take over.  Do they make you perform a Maoist struggle session before entering?  I just want to know if I should bring some knee pads. 

You could practice making rice wine beforehand.

[faberryman]

We always are very careful when we work up there.  We work alone in a secluded space and rarely see any staff.  Restrooms are an issue, and we dread them.  We bring out lunch from home most times and do drive through we we don't.  I have one lone Motorhome yet to shot on the 12th and then I'm not going back until spring.

Seems like a perfectly reasonable way to behave if you ask me.

[faberryman]

And just like that, my name is now going into the database they will use to cull off the chaff when AOC and the commies take over.  Do they make you perform a Maoist struggle session before entering?  I just want to know if I should bring some knee pads.

What? You gave them your real name? Smarten up a little.

[JoeKitchen]

What? You gave them your real name? Smarten up a little.

Well they do require to see my ID. 

At restaurants though, I just say whatever and rattle off 10 random digits for my phone number. 

[faberryman]

Well, Biden is getting his support from the left.  He once was a reasonable moderate.  Now he's sold his soul to the left to become president.  He's become a Socialist in his old years.

For the love of God, stop putting people in boxes. Expand your mind. He doesn't even want Medicare for all, so he is not even half way to the looney left you live in so much fear of.