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Who do you think will be sworn in as President on Jan. 21?

Biden
- 14 (66.7%)
Trump
- 7 (33.3%)

Total Members Voted: 21

Voting closed: November 02, 2020, 06:25:59 pm


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James Clark

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« Reply #2320 on: October 15, 2020, 05:38:09 pm »

Just got my ballot in the mail today and I can assure you I'm not going to write in Hunter Biden.

You're voting by mail?  You know that's automagically fraudulent, right? 
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« Reply #2321 on: October 15, 2020, 05:53:15 pm »

You're voting by mail?  You know that's automagically fraudulent, right?

Not here in Colorado! We're good at this now.

But I'll be returning it in a drop box. A real one that isn't in front of a gun shop or church!
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« Reply #2322 on: October 15, 2020, 05:59:27 pm »

Assuming it's true, I quite agree - Absolutely NOBODY will vote for Hunter Biden after this.  He's totally doomed.

Good one James :)
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« Reply #2323 on: October 15, 2020, 06:01:01 pm »

You're voting by mail?  You know that's automagically fraudulent, right?

Voted in person on Tuesday here.  I didn't vote for Hunter Biden either.

It was a well run and appeared to be a quite safe voting process.
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« Reply #2325 on: October 15, 2020, 06:09:52 pm »

Not here in Colorado! We're good at this now.

But I'll be returning it in a drop box. A real one that isn't in front of a gun shop or church!

Sounds like you got it covered, but just in case, remember that it has to say *official* on it - that means it's totally legal, no matter what!
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« Reply #2326 on: October 15, 2020, 06:12:33 pm »

Voted in person on Tuesday here.  I didn't vote for Hunter Biden either.

It was a well run and appeared to be a quite safe voting process.

That's good to hear.  As of yet, I've heard no stories about obnoxious "poll watchers" or other on-site intimidation from anyone from either side, and hopefully with the massive early voting that's happening, we can forestall too much election day confusion that would cause serious problems.

And I also will not be voting for Hunter Biden.

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« Reply #2327 on: October 15, 2020, 07:00:32 pm »

Voted in person on Tuesday here.  I didn't vote for Hunter Biden either.

It was a well run and appeared to be a quite safe voting process.

So you didn't need to take your assault rifle with you to ensure you could cast your vote?
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« Reply #2328 on: October 15, 2020, 07:01:39 pm »

So you didn't need to take your assault rifle with you to ensure you could cast your vote?

No , I took it anyway, a handgun too.
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« Reply #2329 on: October 15, 2020, 10:00:39 pm »

Every time you think the politics has hit bottom, it gets worse. Turns out that Giuliani, the guy who "received" the "Hunter Biden" "emails" was the target of a disinformation campaign to smear Biden and reelect Trump and that the White House was told about it last year. And that the guy Giuliani was meeting with in the Ukraine has been a Russian intelligence operative for decades...so says the Washington Post in a front page story.
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« Reply #2330 on: October 16, 2020, 04:25:16 am »

I simply reported what I heard, kind of like the Atlantic.

Is that the same as Trump retweeting QAnon ?
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« Reply #2331 on: October 16, 2020, 08:38:57 am »

Assuming it's true, I quite agree - Absolutely NOBODY will vote for Hunter Biden after this.  He's totally doomed.

If it is true, Joe Biden broke the law, full stop!

It is illegal for a politician to curry favors with foreign governments to benefit himself or a relative.  This is serious. 

Another email of Hunters is of him telling another family member that "unlike Pop, I wont ask for 50% of your salary."  Hunter also emailed a Chinese firm stating he needed "10 for the big guy," as in $10G or $10M and it is pretty obvious the big guy would be Joe Biden.  This reeks. 

I might add, that is this turns out to be a fabrication, I will have an equal amount of damning questions especially concerning Rudy G (however you spell that last name). 

This is either a true story (Biden team admitted that the meeting may have happened btw) or an extremely elaborate hoax that only a government would have the resources for, which would certainly bring with it illegal actions for others.  This deserves to be investigated, not ignored. 
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« Reply #2332 on: October 16, 2020, 08:42:04 am »

Is that the same as Trump retweeting QAnon ?

More like Twitter saying they know whats real or not.
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« Reply #2333 on: October 16, 2020, 09:48:38 am »

Is that the same as Trump retweeting QAnon ?

More like Trump retweeting a story from the Babylon Bee.

"Twitter Shuts Down Entire Network To Slow Spread Of Negative Biden News"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/16/donald-trump-retweets-babylon-bee-attack-joe-biden-twitter/3675923001/

Think how many Trump supporters got suckered in with that one. They were peeing their pants they were so excited.

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« Reply #2334 on: October 16, 2020, 10:01:23 am »

I don't know if you guys saw the Biden town hall last night. You may have been watching Trump. But, if you think Biden has been evasive about packing the Supreme Court, you should have seen him dodge the question about whether, if elected, he would appoint Hunter as Senior White House Advisor and put him in charge of Middle East peace. The Biden transition team is reportedly already working on his temporary security clearance. Biden must have gotten one of those big fat shots in the ass because he was so on his game he dodged the question before it was even asked. I think a lot of people watching missed it. It was brilliant. No senility. No senility. The commie/libs at Facebook and Twitter are suppressing that story for sure. I can't find anything on it.
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« Reply #2335 on: October 16, 2020, 10:12:55 am »

I don't know if you guys saw the Biden town hall last night. You may have been watching Trump. But, if you think Biden has been evasive about packing the Supreme Court, you should have seen him dodge the question about whether, if elected, he would appoint Hunter as Senior White House Advisor and put him in charge of Middle East peace. The Biden transition team is reportedly already working on Hunter's temporary security clearance. Facebook and Twitter are suppressing that story for sure.
What's concerning if true, is that this sets up Biden for blackmail from the CHinese government if they have evidence of deals made with these other Chinese businessmen.  At a time when China is throwing its military and economic weight around and threatening us and our allies like Australia, Taiwan, Japan, PI, NZ, etc., we need a president who isn't afraid to push back at the Chinese like Trump has done.  What's interesting is how Obama pulled the US Navy out of the South China Sea for three years and China built up those islands during that time. Obama did nothing until in was a fait accomplis.  Did they have something on Obama? 

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« Reply #2336 on: October 16, 2020, 10:16:12 am »

Maybe it was because VP Biden and his son were making business deals with the Chinese at the time and they asked Joe to convince Obama to pull our navy out and not interfere.   

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« Reply #2337 on: October 16, 2020, 10:20:19 am »

What's concerning if true, is that this sets up Biden for blackmail from the CHinese government if they have evidence of deals made with these other Chinese businessmen.  At a time when China is throwing its military and economic weight around and threatening us and our allies like Australia, Taiwan, Japan, PI, NZ, etc., we need a president who isn't afraid to push back at the Chinese like Trump has done.  What's interesting is how Obama pulled the US Navy out of the South China Sea for three years and China built up those islands during that time. Obama did nothing until in was a fait accomplis.  Did they have something on Obama?

This is a good point that I did not think of. 

Regardless, if true, and really it is looking that way, and if Biden wins, his presidency will be ineffective.  This will dog him until he either resigns or is removed from office.  Unlike was happened with Trump, if true, these are high crimes and impeachable conduct. 

With that said, I dont know what would be better, just letting a corrupt Joe Biden run out his term or have fake as you can be Harris as president? 

But in any event, if this is not investigated or even looked into, I think it will just show a clear bias against republicans and perhaps we should split as a country.  I dont want to live a country where people from one side of the political isle are never investigated with the media routinely brushing scandals under the rug for them. 
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« Reply #2338 on: October 16, 2020, 10:35:59 am »

But in any event, if this is not investigated or even looked into, I think it will just show a clear bias against republicans and perhaps we should split as a country.  I dont want to live a country where people from one side of the political isle are never investigated with the media routinely brushing scandals under the rug for them.

Well, if it comes to that, there are plenty of other countries to choose from. The problem is, given our record on COVID, none of them will let you in. It's a hell of a dilemma. And it's all Trump's fault. He's got you coming and going.
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« Reply #2339 on: October 16, 2020, 11:09:36 am »

Well, if it comes to that, there are plenty of other countries to choose from. The problem is, given our record on COVID, none of them will let you in. It's a hell of a dilemma. And it's all Trump's fault. He's got you coming and going.

If the country splits, there will be another option that I will more then likely already be living in, especially if the court is packed.  My wife and I have been flirting with moving to Dallas already. 

If the court is packed, the country will not last.  Red states will view the court as illegitimate, stop following their rulings, and after that it is only a matter of time before they choose to leave.  We can deal with adding two more states, since the response will more then likely be breaking CA into three states, two of which would be conservative.  But IMO court packing will break the union. 

Anyway, prior to Tuesday I was seriously considering that maybe the best case for the country would be the Senate remaining Red and Biden winning.  Hey, exhaustion eventually sets in for everyone, and Trump is just so exhausting even though I like his policies.  But given the actions of FB and Twitter over this, I just dont know.  I can see the other news media companies ignoring the story, but actively suppressing it is just unacceptable and I feel now the government needs to step in. 

I see social media as the main source of many of our problems and feel it is something we can no longer ignore, especially when it comes to children.  Something needs to be done. 

I can't see Biden doing that, or anything else of much consequence, especially when it comes to uniting the country.  I predict a Joe Biden presidency will be much like James Buchanan's, ignoring any real problems and allowing them to fester. 
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