PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political

[faberryman]

Hey, do you pro Trump folks watch his COVID-19 press briefings from start to finish each day.

[armand]

Lada 1980-2012. Amazing vehicle.
To complete the story, the car was born as Fiat 124 in Italy and manufactured there between 1966 and 1974.
And it doesn't end there. In Cuba, there are still a quarter of million Lada's which will continue to be driven for another 50 years.

Complete story: https://www.carthrottle.com/post/zdzerd3/

I drove that few times, my father in law had one to be used on the country side. Towards its end I had to take a pause every 5-10 km because it was overheating.
I also drove this: https://www.motor1.com/news/62315/soviet-bloc-cars-were-weird-dacia-1300-1310/
Passing with that car required large amounts of anticipation.

[LesPalenik]

I drove that few times, my father in law had one to be used on the country side. Towards its end I had to take a pause every 5-10 km because it was overheating.
I also drove this: https://www.motor1.com/news/62315/soviet-bloc-cars-were-weird-dacia-1300-1310/
Passing with that car required large amounts of anticipation.

Speaking about passing (other cars). In early seventies, as a student I owned a second-hand Citroen 2CV. The car had a tiny engine - 2 cylinders with total displacement of 421ccm. Top speed was 95kmh, with tail wind even 100kmh. I remember once passing another car on the Autobahn. It took me a long time to overtake that car and at that time there was a long line of cars behind me. After the successful manouver, an attractive blond in the passenger seat of a sporty Mercedes behind me (at that time already in the left lane beside me) opened her window, smiled at me and clapped vigorously. I drove that car through half Europe - from Italian Riviera to north of Arctic Circle in Finland and Norway.

[Craig Lamson]

Good.  Every member of every party ought to be censuring everyone that publicly recommends medical treatments that are based on loose anecdote and incomplete science.   Glad to see that the Dems aren't "party above all else."

Reading the source article, it appears the real problem is not the meds, but rather she talked to Trump.  Thats more like "party above all else" if you ask me.

“At the end of the day, we have political systems,” said Jonathan Kinloch, chairman of the organization. “We have political parties, and political parties exist for a reason."

“They do not belong to themselves,” Kinloch said of endorsed candidates and elected officials. “They belong to the members and precinct delegates of the Democratic Party"

But, on the question of the meds, in an emergency situation where no proven or tested remedy exists, you would prefer that people don't try and perhaps die, rather than trying?  Its a call for the Dr. and patient to make, in my book.  After the fact folks still have the right to talk about their experience, unless that right has been removed, and I somehow missed it.

[Craig Lamson]

Hey, do you pro Trump folks watch his COVID-19 press briefings from start to finish each day.

Not any more, I'm getting a bit weary of the coverage from all sides.

We do watch the briefings during dinner but after the table is cleared and the dishes washed, the tv goes away.

[JoeKitchen]

Good.  Every member of every party ought to be censuring everyone that publicly recommends medical treatments that are based on loose anecdote and incomplete science.   Glad to see that the Dems aren't "party above all else."

Damn right!  Now we need to start censuring all of those who promoted the lock down now that it is being shown there is no correlation between lock downs and controling the spread in the USA.  FL and TX, no widespread outbreaks.  Censure those baboons. 

[JoeKitchen]

Hey, do you pro Trump folks watch his COVID-19 press briefings from start to finish each day.

It's simple, I dont. 

I don't know true it is, but I once heard that some one in FDR's administration told him he should do his fireside chats every Friday.  FDR replied that if he did, they would lose their appeal.  I think this is what we are seeing with the press briefings. 

[Craig Lamson]

Speaking about passing (other cars). In early seventies, as a student I owned a second-hand Citroen 2CV. The car had a tiny engine - 2 cylinders with total displacement of 421ccm. Top speed was 95kmh, with tail wind even 100kmh. I remember once passing another car on the Autobahn. It took me a long time to overtake that car and at that time there was a long line of cars behind me. After the successful manouver, an attractive blond in the passenger seat of a sporty Mercedes behind me (at that time already in the left lane beside me) opened her window, smiled at me and clapped vigorously. I drove that car through half Europe - from Italian Riviera to north of Arctic Circle in Finland and Norway.

My father-in-law repaired VW's as a sideline for may years and somehow he came into possession of a DKW.  I dont remember what year, bit it wasa crazy little car.  It had a two-cycle engine, and I remember driving it a few times.  Eventually some part broke and he was unable to repair it and away it went.

Youtube video of a DKW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpZb7KMhU6s

[JoeKitchen]

Two stories, a week apart, that relate so much to each other. 

Karl Rove says coronavirus pandemic may end era of political conventions as 'big extravaganzas'

New York Times writer: Joe Biden not a candidate who can use social media successfully

Glad to see the NYTs being honest. 

[Craig Lamson]

THis plant is in my town, they make pickups.

GM notifies some Fort Wayne employees of possible return to work ‘soon’.

https://wpta21.com/2020/04/23/gm-notifies-some-fort-wayne-employees-of-possible-return-to-work-soon/

[Alan Klein]

Lada 1980-2012. Amazing vehicle.
To complete the story, the car was born as Fiat 124 in Italy and manufactured there between 1966 and 1974.
And it doesn't end there. In Cuba, there are still a quarter of million Lada's which will continue to be driven for another 50 years.

Complete story: https://www.carthrottle.com/post/zdzerd3/

Doesn't say much for the Cuban economy.

[Alan Klein]

Hey, do you pro Trump folks watch his COVID-19 press briefings from start to finish each day.

Only as long as CNN keeps it on. 

[Alan Klein]

Speaking about passing (other cars). In early seventies, as a student I owned a second-hand Citroen 2CV. The car had a tiny engine - 2 cylinders with total displacement of 421ccm. Top speed was 95kmh, with tail wind even 100kmh. I remember once passing another car on the Autobahn. It took me a long time to overtake that car and at that time there was a long line of cars behind me. After the successful manouver, an attractive blond in the passenger seat of a sporty Mercedes behind me (at that time already in the left lane beside me) opened her window, smiled at me and clapped vigorously. I drove that car through half Europe - from Italian Riviera to north of Arctic Circle in Finland and Norway.

Obviously, she was appreciative you passed that slow poke on the right. 

[Ray]

On the other hand, a damaged world economy doesn't help China either as they'll lose their customers. 

As a result of a damaged economy there will be many countries eager to export raw materials to China at low prices in order to reduce their own debt. Oil prices are very low at the moment, for example.

Energy supplies, raw materials and technology, are the fundamental requirements for prosperity. With a population of 1.4 billion, China has plenty of its own customers. It will  probably continue to raise the living standards of its citizens whilst the living standard of the average American might continue to fall as the US struggles to climb out of the serious recession resulting from the Covid pandemic.

[LesPalenik]

Doesn't say much for the Cuban economy.

Even Fidel lasted more than 50 years.

[LesPalenik]

Obviously, she was appreciative you passed that slow poke on the right.

If you did it today on the Autobahn, the other drivers would push you off the road.

[James Clark]

Damn right!  Now we need to start censuring all of those who promoted the lock down now that it is being shown there is no correlation between lock downs and controling the spread in the USA.  FL and TX, no widespread outbreaks.  Censure those baboons.

If you're suggesting there have been no "lockdowns" in Texas, you're wrong.  I live in Austin, and have a metric ton of friends in Houston from when I lived there, and in San Antonio where I went to college, and I promise you, we're not "open for business" despite what our idiot chipmunk of a Lt. Gov. is advocating for.   Our grocery stores are being held up as a model for how to deal with this, and several municipalities are enforcing fairly strict safety measures.

[Alan Klein]

As a result of a damaged economy there will be many countries eager to export raw materials to China at low prices in order to reduce their own debt. Oil prices are very low at the moment, for example.

Energy supplies, raw materials and technology, are the fundamental requirements for prosperity. With a population of 1.4 billion, China has plenty of its own customers. It will  probably continue to raise the living standards of its citizens whilst the living standard of the average American might continue to fall as the US struggles to climb out of the serious recession resulting from the Covid pandemic.

If Imperial Japan had the virus to spread, they could have avoided WWII. 

How is Australia going to respond to Chinese expansionism?  You depend a lot on exporting your energy to them.  Are you going to look the other way?  Especially if America decides to withdraw because it can't afford to patrol the world any longer?  We should have let China sleep.  Then again we dealt with the Soviet Union.  But those were very tense times.

[chez]

As a result of a damaged economy there will be many countries eager to export raw materials to China at low prices in order to reduce their own debt. Oil prices are very low at the moment, for example.

Energy supplies, raw materials and technology, are the fundamental requirements for prosperity. With a population of 1.4 billion, China has plenty of its own customers. It will  probably continue to raise the living standards of its citizens whilst the living standard of the average American might continue to fall as the US struggles to climb out of the serious recession resulting from the Covid pandemic.

In fact the entire Asian region was not hit as bad as the west and this includes India which is just behind China as far as potential customers go. That area might just emerge in much better financial stability than the west.

Maybe we will witness the changing of the guards.

[JoeKitchen]

If you're suggesting there have been no "lockdowns" in Texas, you're wrong.  I live in Austin, and have a metric ton of friends in Houston from when I lived there, and in San Antonio where I went to college, and I promise you, we're not "open for business" despite what our idiot chipmunk of a Lt. Gov. is advocating for.   Our grocery stores are being held up as a model for how to deal with this, and several municipalities are enforcing fairly strict safety measures.

I am just pointing that you are insisting that we tar and feather any politician, which is guilty of screwing up, by using information that we found after the fact, aka the hindsight fallacy.  It makes no sense.  Not to mention, if no one ever took chances, like on using a new drug, the world would be in a much worse place.