COVID-19 updates

[Chris Kern]

The fact is he's not a speaker, a debater, and his New Yorka style of speaking grates a lot of people. Forgetaboutit.

Normally, I would never think of objecting to someone's accent, but I fear you've been living too long in Noo Joisey.  The correct pronunciation, and canonical spelling, is "fuhgeddaboudit".

[Alan Klein]

Fewer avoidable deaths. We like to think of ourselves as a humane society.

How is shutting down an economy and bankrupting a nation so people can't feed their families supporting a humane society?  All actions have consequences.  Sometimes the road to hell is paved with good intentions. No one is evil, here.  The consequences of our choices will have negative ramifications whatever we do.   There are no simple answers,  There will be casualties regardless of our choices. 

[Alan Klein]

Normally, I would never think of objecting to someone's accent, but I fear you've been living too long in Noo Joisey.  The correct pronunciation, and canonical spelling, is "fuhgeddaboudit".

Your rite.  As a previous life-long New Yorka I shud hab nown betta. 

[Chris Kern]

Your rite.  As a previous life-long New Yorka I shud hab nown betta.

Glad you agree.  The pandemic is no reason to relax our linguistic standards.  I recommend that you listen to Andrew Cuomo's daily televised Noo Yawk situation reports for a refresher course on how to tawk rite.

[Alan Klein]

Where are people buying alcohol like isopropyl?  Any drinking alcohol substitutes that could be used for antiseptic cleaning?

[Alan Klein]

Speaker Nancy Pelosi complements and supports the new $2 trillion dollar rescue bill looking forward to more iterations to come.  Obviously her 401K retirement account and wealth tanked just like the rest of us and what's a few trillion if she could rescue it never mind the rest of the people?   Pretty soon it will cost 40 bucks for a roll of 35mm film and 20 bucks for a Big Mac.   
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/politics/cnntv-nancy-pelosi-stimulus-bill/index.html

[Alan Klein]

Are these Congressional emoluments?

[Alan Klein]

"The World Health Organization praised the Trump administration’s response to the COVID-19 outbreak, which has spread to all 50 states and infected at least 55,568 U.S. citizens.

WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus singled out President Donald Trump, whom he said he spoke with Tuesday, for doing a “great job” in leveraging public and private sector resources to fight the pandemic. "
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/25/who-officials-praise-us-leaders-on-pandemic-response-trump-is-doing-all-he-can.html

[LesPalenik]

Pretty soon it will cost 40 bucks for a roll of 35mm film and 20 bucks for a Big Mac.   

The good thing is that both these items are not absolutely essential, and you can save big by switching to other alternatives.

[Alan Klein]

Inflation raises the costs of all things.

[armand]

"The World Health Organization praised the Trump administration’s response to the COVID-19 outbreak, which has spread to all 50 states and infected at least 55,568 U.S. citizens.

WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus singled out President Donald Trump, whom he said he spoke with Tuesday, for doing a “great job” in leveraging public and private sector resources to fight the pandemic. "
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/25/who-officials-praise-us-leaders-on-pandemic-response-trump-is-doing-all-he-can.html

He's trying to appease Trump's ego so Trump doesn't stop the restrictions which in turn will benefit the rest of the world. Who said doctors can't be politicians?


That aside I don't doubt that the administration is trying harder now, but once the cat is out of the bag is difficult to significantly alter course. Missed opportunities are not coming back.

[Robert Roaldi]

As I wrote in an earlier post, experts write papers and memos and people ignore them, https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/25/trump-coronavirus-national-security-council-149285.

[Alan Klein]

He's trying to appease Trump's ego so Trump doesn't stop the restrictions which in turn will benefit the rest of the world. Who said doctors can't be politicians?


That aside I don't doubt that the administration is trying harder now, but once the cat is out of the bag is difficult to significantly alter course. Missed opportunities are not coming back.

Like I said, Trump can walk on water and you guys will find something wrong with it.  60% of the American people don't believe you anymore. The other 40% are Democrats.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-virus-may-make-trump-stronger-11585149792

[Alan Klein]

As I wrote in an earlier post, experts write papers and memos and people ignore them, https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/25/trump-coronavirus-national-security-council-149285.

Do you really think that Trump or any president is going to read much less implement an unapproved plan in a playbook called, "Playbook for Early Response to High-Consequence Emerging Infectious Disease Threats and Biological Incidents"?   

By the way, did you ever entirely read your cameras instruction manual and follow all it's recommendations?

[Alan Klein]

In any case, what he did was put together an expert team that we see on TV every day at his news conferences.  The Playbook doesn;t deal with the dynamic changes that occur in any war.  Responses have to be tailored to the conditions on the ground not some fixed in time precept of a four year old book. 

[Alan Klein]

Senate passes $2 trillion rescue package in an intent to put off the recession.  Of course with so many people not producing anything, prices are going to skyrocket as the legislation helicopters in dollars bills to people who are not working.  This is going to be a disaster.  For example, the airline industry, corporation and employees, will get bailed out.  Although 87% of airline traffic has ceased, the bill will allow 100% of the airline employee to continue to get full pay.  WHile I understand the concern, 90% of those people are not doing anything productive for that pay.  What are they doing, flying empty jets?   

Money represents productivity.  All this bill does is making everything hugely expensive as inflation hits.  Then, with no one still flying two months from now, they're already projecting doing another continuing rescue bill.  How many rounds will they do?  Why don;t we all quit our jobs, stay home, and collect government checks?  The government and Trump is just trying to get past the election.  Then the whole thing is going to collapse.  If we really can't start working despite Trump's hope to get the economy going again, we're really screwed after all this spending.  This is what Socialism looks like.   There should just be a small package to help people with unemployment and that's it. Buy gold.  Your dollar isn't going to be worth anything.
https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-edit-schumer-senate-stimulus-20200325-k4llrhzt6nhktb4ih4uho2q7u4-story.html

[Alan Klein]

Oh, in addition to the $2 trillion, the bill will give authority to the NY Fed to issue another $4 trillion in other debt by printing and borrowing.  Treasury Secretary Mnuchin will have authority to write the checks with no oversight.  All this will increase inflation and debt and impoverish our children.  And this is only to last for three months with the hope the economy can be turned around.  After all, how long can a family live on a  thousand dollars or so? 

If the economy is still in a dive, they'll move to Round 2 of printing.  Do I hear Weimar German Republic, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, ?

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

Like I said, Trump can walk on water and you guys will find something wrong with it.

Trump cannot walk on water.

[Jeremy Roussak]

The last few pages of this thread have been about Biden and Trump (with all the sagacity I've come to expect of those who post here on the subjects). It's supposed to be about "COVID-19 updates", as it's title ever-so-subtly implies.

Stay on track. If you want to bicker about politics in the infantile, tediously repetitive way that seems to excite you all so much, start another thread.

Jeremy

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

Coronavirus: Is it too much to ask for an actual plan?
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/03/coronavirus-is-it-too-much-to-ask-for-an-actual-plan/

In difficult and frightening times, it's normal for a certain amount of confusion and misinformation to spread. The existence of social media and hyperpartisan "news" outlets undoubtedly exacerbate the problem, but even those are just exaggerated versions of things that have been with us for some time.

But two things make the torrent of coronavirus misinformation distinct. The first one is simple: much of the misinformation starts at the top, where President Donald Trump seems willing to say whatever crosses his mind when he finds himself in front of a microphone.

But the second is trickier: unlike a national disaster or terrorist attack, we have no models for how long the coronavirus pandemic will last or how we will recover from it. There's no "we'll rebuild" mindset that people can use to make sense out of what's going to happen and guide their expectations.

P.S. To Jeremy, the article link I posted above outlines a path to improving the response of managing the Covid-19 crisis.
If that's not what you expect, then I'll delete the post.