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Re: Democrat Nomination for President
« Reply #260 on: February 09, 2020, 08:38:52 am »

What with partisan gerrymandering, voters being systematically dis-enfranchised, and the recent Democratic party voting debacle in the primary, should the UN be considering sending election observers into the US?  :)

How is it possible to create such a clusterf**k? Maybe sub-contract it all to Amazon or Google or somebody, hell even Microsoft, at the very least get the whole system out of the hands of the political parties, which is insane on the face of it. Honestly, it's embarrassing.
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« Reply #261 on: February 09, 2020, 08:46:31 am »

What with partisan gerrymandering, voters being systematically dis-enfranchised, and the recent Democratic party voting debacle in the primary, should the UN be considering sending election observers into the US?  :)

How is it possible to create such a clusterf**k? Maybe sub-contract it all to Amazon or Google or somebody, hell even Microsoft, at the very least get the whole system out of the hands of the political parties, which is insane on the face of it. Honestly, it's embarrassing.
Republicans have always run things better based on the buck.  Democrats run things based on the heart.  The Republican Iowa caucus went off without a hitch.  It was only the Democrat caucus that screwed up.  The Federal government seems to run better under Trump.  So it's more than embarrassing.  It will affect the vote in November.  Voters will have to decide if things are better today than they were four years ago. 

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« Reply #262 on: February 09, 2020, 09:25:48 am »

Republicans have always run things better based on the buck.  Democrats run things based on the heart. 
Do you say republicans have no moral other than $$$ ?
Anyway the deficit is rising with giant steps under Trump and when the economy is going well it is the time to do something about it... because now it is possible. In the Netherlands we took that road and have lowered our deficit over the last years.
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Re: Democrat Nomination for President
« Reply #263 on: February 09, 2020, 09:36:43 am »

Honestly, it's embarrassing.

Only to Democrats. To Republicans it's hilarious!
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Re: Democrat Nomination for President
« Reply #264 on: February 09, 2020, 09:43:06 am »

In the Netherlands we took that road and have lowered our deficit over the last years.

Maybe spending only 1.2% of GDP on defense helps to explain that, Pieter.
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Re: Democrat Nomination for President
« Reply #265 on: February 09, 2020, 09:48:17 am »

Do you say republicans have no moral other than $$$ ?
Anyway the deficit is rising with giant steps under Trump and when the economy is going well it is the time to do something about it... because now it is possible. In the Netherlands we took that road and have lowered our deficit over the last years.
Going into debt and bankrupting your family or country is not being moral.  God wants us to be good stewards of our finances.  There's no conflict with that and being charitable.  Just don;t be stupid about it.  Sanders would destroy the golden goose that America is to complete some socialist/communist belief he has. I'd rather vote for Biden.  After all, how much damage could he do while napping? 

You lowered your debt by passing on defense expenditures to US nitwits who are clueless about European intent.  That's what we should do by pulling out of NATO.  We could save a bunch.   

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« Reply #266 on: February 09, 2020, 09:53:41 am »

You lowered your debt by passing on defense expenditures to US nitwits who are clueless about European intent.  That's what we should do by pulling out of NATO.  We could save a bunch.
Maybe spending only 1.2% of GDP on defense helps to explain that, Pieter.

Aaahh  !   
are you both using AI for responding?
it does not work... as usual..
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Re: Democrat Nomination for President
« Reply #267 on: February 09, 2020, 09:55:04 am »

I said this a couple of years ago in one of these threads: #1 geopolitical adversary of the US is not Russia, not China, but the EU. Why are we still in NATO then? Keep your friends close, and your enemies even closer ;)

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Re: Democrat Nomination for President
« Reply #268 on: February 09, 2020, 10:16:43 am »

I said this a couple of years ago in one of these threads: #1 geopolitical adversary of the US is not Russia, not China, but the EU. Why are we still in NATO then? Keep your friends close, and your enemies even closer ;)

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Re: Democrat Nomination for President
« Reply #269 on: February 09, 2020, 12:51:43 pm »

I said this a couple of years ago in one of these threads: #1 geopolitical adversary of the US is not Russia, not China, but the EU. Why are we still in NATO then? Keep your friends close, and your enemies even closer ;)

So you think the USA aligns with totalitarian states and that it's a good thing?
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Re: Democrat Nomination for President
« Reply #270 on: February 09, 2020, 01:54:53 pm »

So you think the USA aligns with totalitarian states and that it's a good thing?

I don't think that is what Slobodan said. Where did Slobodan say the USA aligns with totalitarian states?


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Re: Democrat Nomination for President
« Reply #271 on: February 09, 2020, 01:59:25 pm »

^ Thank you, exactly.

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« Reply #272 on: February 09, 2020, 03:34:05 pm »

Well, it is holding hands with Saudi, for one.

Slobodan is right, but also mistaken: the big three players are the US, China and the EU.

Trump is trying to cut the EU out of the game because it has potential to pass the US one of these days if it hangs together. That's why he broke all protocol and publicly announced that he would like to be best friends with Boris and/or Nigel because he thought them Britain's best leaders - in other words, he publicly backed the Brexit leaders because he knew that Britain within Europe was a big deal and quite likely one of the stabilising factors keeping his fear alive. Russia doesn't have the economy to let it count; it does have the nukes, though, as does China, but as we know, China also has the economy unless Corona does for it.

Divide and conquer kill. He doesn't give a hamburger for the UK - wait and see when it scurries, cap in hand, looking for its express big deal, the best deal any two countries ever made. It doesn't count anymore: it has served its purpose insofar as leaving and weakening the European Union is concerned.

The EU was not an adversary. All it did was have a combination of companies that makes 'planes many prefer to Boeing. It also doesn't like to poison itself with what it eats.



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Re: Democrat Nomination for President
« Reply #273 on: February 09, 2020, 03:54:52 pm »

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The EU was not an adversary. All it did was have a combination of companies that makes 'planes many prefer to Boeing. It also doesn't like to poison itself with what it eats.

There is a lot of truth there.
I hear now from many people who used to have digestion, allergy and other problems when living in USA, and all their problems disappeared after moving to Europe or Mexico. Could have been also less exposure to the political stress. ;)
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Re: Democrat Nomination for President
« Reply #274 on: February 09, 2020, 05:10:35 pm »

... I hear now from many people who used to have digestion, allergy and other problems when living in USA, and all their problems disappeared after moving to Europe or Mexico...

The level of discourse is now dropping to old wives’ tales?

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Re: Democrat Nomination for President
« Reply #275 on: February 09, 2020, 05:19:25 pm »

.... Trump is trying to cut the EU out of the game because it has potential to pass the US one of these days if it hangs together... Russia doesn't have the economy to let it count; it does have the nukes, though, as does China, but as we know, China also has the economy unless Corona does for it...

Correct, Rob, that is what I had in mind. In addition to economy, Europe is committing a collective harakiri leaving a Muslim playground behind in 50 years, a major problem for all other civilized parties, notably the US, China, and Russia.

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Re: Democrat Nomination for President
« Reply #276 on: February 09, 2020, 05:26:51 pm »

The level of discourse is now dropping to old wives’ tales?

Quite the contrary. These are the real stories!
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Re: Democrat Nomination for President
« Reply #277 on: February 09, 2020, 05:40:51 pm »

Quite the contrary. These are the real stories!

Well, here is another one: after fifteen years in the States without digestion, allergy or other problems (bar financial) I left and still have no digestion, allergy and other problems.

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Re: Democrat Nomination for President
« Reply #278 on: February 09, 2020, 05:45:08 pm »

Quote from: Slobodan Blagojevic link=topic=133787't bevfar behind..msg1151472#msg1151472 date=1581286765
Correct, Rob, that is what I had in mind. In addition to economy, Europe is committing a collective harakiri leaving a Muslim playground behind in 50 years, a major problem for all other civilized parties, notably the US, China, and Russia.

I think that Russia has quite a lot already: Chechnya? I bet you that the US won't be far behind soon.

Which may affect Israel in years to come: no automatic Big Brother to watch its back... maybe it's what the Palestinians are banking on these days: long hope.

On the other hand, if push comes to serious shove, who knows what may happen: who really believed India woukd split into two countries. And boy, it was violent and messy. Still is, all these years later.

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« Reply #279 on: February 09, 2020, 05:59:17 pm »

Well, here is another one: after fifteen years in the States without digestion, allergy or other problems (bar financial) I left and still have no digestion, allergy and other problems.

Me, too. I have had always a good stomach, Slobodan, and never got sick in USA. But I noticed a difference in the food quality when travelling to Europe. Both, in the restaurants and in the supermarkets.
How do you compare the Serbian cuisine to American?
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